Supertech filter or Fram ultra

[D1dad]

Pure one or a boss filter would be good although not mentioned.

 

[ZeeOSix]

For the life of me, I can’t figure out why someone would skip changing the filter at the time the oil is changed. Please don’t even try to explain it to me. I still won’t understand.

Depends on the OCI, use conditions and what the filter is rated for. Honda and a few other car makers who say to change the filter every other OCI can explain it, but maybe those Honda engineers don't know that they're doing.

 

[KCJeep]

I’d use a Tough Guard over an ultra. TG is about the only filter First Brands hasn’t messed up. Yet.

 

[Faawrenchbndr]

A few here got me to take a look at the MicroGard Select.

Any reason you are stuck on the Fram or Supertech?

 

[TheOilWizard]

Depends on the OCI, use conditions and what the filter is rated for. Honda and a few other car makers who say to change the filter every other OCI can explain it, but maybe those Honda engineers don't know that they're doing.

The same "engineers" that claim lifetime fluids, etc.? Something to think about.

PS, I don't necessarily have an issue with using oil filters for multiple OCIs. Like you said, depends on many factors whether it's advisable or not.

 

[ZeeOSix]

PS, I don't necessarily have an issue with using oil filters for multiple OCIs. Like you said, depends on many factors whether it's advisable or not.

Honda isn't the only manufacture that's recommended oil filter changes every other OCI under a normal (not severe) service schedule.

Just don't use a low efficiency oil filter for long OCIs or use it for multiple OCIs (ie, put too many miles on the filter), as low efficiency filters are low efficiency because they also slough off debris more as they load up with use. They don't "get more efficiency" with use like so many people mistakenly believe.

 

[bighead2586]

A few here got me to take a look at the MicroGard Select.

Any reason you are stuck on the Fram or Supertech?

Not stuck. ST is cheap and has decent reputation. Ultra has more capacity and better rep so feel better about using it for a longer stretch. Both available at Walmart.

 

[Faawrenchbndr]

Not stuck. ST is cheap and has decent reputation. Ultra has more capacity and better rep so feel better about using it for a longer stretch. Both available at Walmart.

Ok…….thanks

 

[liberty2701]

A few here got me to take a look at the MicroGard Select.

Any reason you are stuck on the Fram or Supertech?

Readily available. I also use Wix instead of the ultra occasionally.

 

[Bill7]

How did you determine that the proper OCI for all-4 of your vehicle engines are 6k OCIs?
Are the oil brands and grades all the same too?
That's Interesting! For all we know here at BITOG, your-4 could be (hypothetical) GDI - TGDI - MPI and DOHC engines.... all little-bit different from one another.

I maintain four vehicles and I adopted three different OCI timetables - three different oils - two different filter brands - two different grades of oils. I adopted a mind-frame on what's best for the engines and not what's best for things like simplifying the routine. I use a phone calendar and notification system for reminders, since mine appear different and a little more complicated from yours. In the old days, I hung a wall calendar on the garage wall for scheduling maintenance matters.

Whatever works best for each individual and each individual vehicle I guess. That's all that matters-most.... trying to make both the maintainer and the engine happy campers.
I vote for the Supertech filter every 6k OCI btw.

I also maintain 4 vehicles, and I chose to simplify my maintenance (Simple is good) by doing 5,000 mile / 6 months (whichever comes first)
oil changes with a low cost Dexos 1 Gen 3 approved full synthetic high mileage 5W-30.

The time component is very important so you can avoid sludge due to short tripping in cold weather.

 

[Bill7]

Depends on the OCI, use conditions and what the filter is rated for. Honda and a few other car makers who say to change the filter every other OCI can explain it, but maybe those Honda engineers don't know that they're doing.

Honda recommends changing the oil filter ever other change (like you mentioned).
Toyota recommends 10,000 mile oil changes.

The good thing is that their recommendations are reducing long term global environmental damage by reducing by 50% the amount of waste oil and filters. So it's a good thing for the earth.

 

[Faawrenchbndr]

Honda recommends changing the oil filter ever other change (like you mentioned).
Toyota recommends 10,000 mile oil changes.

The good thing is that their recommendations are reducing long term global environmental damage by reducing by 50% the amount of waste oil and filters. So it's a good thing for the earth.

I like the idea of reduced materials in landfill or recycling centers. But changing oil and skipping the filter is like taking a shower and putting on the same underwear ya took off.

 

[liberty2701]

I like the idea of reduced materials in landfill or recycling centers. But changing oil and skipping the filter is like taking a shower and putting on the same underwear ya took off.

That's hysterical. Never thought of it that way.

 

[Faawrenchbndr]

That's hysterical. Never thought of it that way.

I mean, I’m not an engineer, but I’m having a hard time following that ideology.

 

[SC Maintenance]

When I stop seeing a container ship full of Chinese trinkets float into Charleston harbor every hour, I will worry more about our landfill.

The current Supertech is just the cheapest Champ / luber finer build. I personally would not go that route. I used to love the Supertech MP / Champ XL's - but they are no more.

If you want to go to a cheaper filter - see what the cost of a Ecogard X, Hengst, or even an OEM filter is.

If you want to run 2X - I don't really have a problem with that, but I would step up to the Fram Endurance - at least it still has a type of backing, or to the higher end Premium Guard / Ecogard / carquest premium for premium build quality.

 

[NiwradND]

When I stop seeing a container ship full of Chinese trinkets float into Charleston harbor every hour, I will worry more about our landfill.

The current Supertech is just the cheapest Champ / luber finer build. I personally would not go that route. I used to love the Supertech MP / Champ XL's - but they are no more.

If you want to go to a cheaper filter - see what the cost of a Ecogard X, Hengst, or even an OEM filter is.

If you want to run 2X - I don't really have a problem with that, but I would step up to the Fram Endurance - at least it still has a type of backing, or to the higher end Premium Guard / Ecogard / carquest premium for premium build quality.

I personally would not be afraid to run the Champ XL for two oil changes, the filtering on these filters are as good as any premuim filter in my opinion

 

[MetalSlug]

I also maintain 4 vehicles, and I chose to simplify my maintenance (Simple is good) by doing 5,000 mile / 6 months (whichever comes first)
oil changes with a low cost Dexos 1 Gen 3 approved full synthetic high mileage 5W-30.

The time component is very important so you can avoid sludge due to short tripping in cold weather.

What your oil choice And filter? I like simple myself also 4-5k or 6 month.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

If you really want go more than one OCI on a filter, use the Endurance. But I'd only go more than one OCI if the filter is difficult to find and not common, or if the job itself is difficult (filter hard to access).

Otherwise, even the ST or an orange can for one OCI. The orange cans are still good and at a good price.

 

[Bill7]

What your oil choice And filter? I like simple myself also 4-5k or 6 month.

I prefer Super Tech High Mileage Full Synthetic 5W-30 in the 5 quart jugs from Walmart. I bought an exact knife and stainless steel funnel with a metal strainer from Amazon to safely remove the clingy spout protection on the Super Tech oil containers.

I don’t use Fram Ultra / Fram Endurance filters, as their leaking of unfiltered oil defect due to cheapening of the oil filter to increase Fram’s profits yields filters with much lower efficiency than what the box says.

 

[Patman]

That's hysterical. Never thought of it that way.

That’s because it’s not the same thing at all. When you change your oil there is always going to be about 10-20% of the old oil left behind. So you never start out any interval with 100% clean oil anyway. So to add in another 2-3% of the old oil by leaving the old filter on really makes no difference whatsoever.

If someone is already doing 10,000 mile oil changes then I don’t think they should reuse the same filter twice. But if they are doing 3-5k changes, why not? If the filter is particularly hard to get at or is a messy change, then it’s nice to have every other oil change being a little bit less of a hassle.