SUPER TECH 9688 CUT IPEN

[53' Stude]

Filter is from our fellow member Schwinney.

Looks ok, some grit or junk in can too

 

[Dave Hess]

I didn’t know cage style center tube used metal end caps. I thought it was ’felt’ material end caps.

As always great filter photos.

 

[53' Stude]

I didn’t know cage style tube used metal end caps. I thought it was ’felt’ style caps.

As always great filter photos.

Yeah, I think they used metal end caps for maybe 1-2 years now; can’t confirm. I’d personally use this over the 6607

 

[Kira]

Why the short (~1,300 mi,) OCI?

 

[53' Stude]

Why the short (~1,300 mi,) OCI?

Don’t know, Schwinney can answer all your questions

 

[MParr]

Another quality Champ Labs filter. Why buy an orange can, when these are available?

 

[wpod]

Another quality Champ Labs filter. Why buy an orange can, when these are available?

You can pay me now or you can pay me later !

 

[Soobs]

There’s seems to be a lot of face loading leftover on the inside of the can especially for that short of a run.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Subaru EJs are not exactly known for being super-clean internally, the terrible fuel atomization when cold due to the flat-4 layout almost ensures there’s going to be fuel & soot & gunk… but the important part IMO is it’s still inside the filter canister, not circulating.

 

[53' Stude]

There’s seems to be a lot of face loading leftover on the inside of the can especially for that short of a run.

I’m guessing he used some HPL Cleaner or their oil

 

[Soobs]

Subaru EJs are not exactly known for being super-clean internally, the terrible fuel atomization when cold due to the flat-4 layout almost ensures there’s going to be fuel & soot & gunk… but the important part IMO is it’s still inside the filter canister, not circulating.

I agree, but perhaps an HPL product was used or the media in this filter just yields more face-loading that falls off? I’ve never seen this much in mine, but I’ve not tried a Champ/Super Tech filter yet. Really none to speak of at all in the last Subaru filter I cut open; however, some minor soot in the one prior which was a Beck Arnley 041-8181. I made a video comparing a 3000 mile B/A 041-8181 to a 15208AA12A, but haven’t uploaded it yet. Both runs with ST Synthetic Blend 5w30. I’ll get around to editing and uploading the video soon.

 

[The Critic]

Must be a poorly maintained engine to have this amount of debris. Both of the filters I recently cut open after running HPL Engine Cleaner 30 were as clean as a whistle.

 

[53' Stude]

Must be a poorly maintained engine to have this amount of debris. Both of the filters I recently cut open after running HPL Engine Cleaner 30 were as clean as a whistle.

See SubueRubyRoo comment above

 

[OVERKILL]

@schwinney seem to be some questions here for you.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

Hey hey. The world is exploding around me, somewhat but not really. Just seeing this Sunday A.M. .... sorry for all delay @OVERKILL and all.

Okay, haven't even seen the pictures of how the filters look yet but I can tell you that I've used a ton of cleaners. A ton. Like, literally, a lot. This all started last year with the HPL stuff, I purchased some, I do believe I was gifted some, speaks to the excellent character of everyone at HPL, truly outstanding. One-sentence backstory: Somehow, some way, I never made it to the event in August (despite planning all summer and hitting the road to go) so. Enter EJ engine with unknown mileage, had to go to some lengths to get it.. sat for about 4 years, approximately maybe, car it came out of was scrapped and crushed, luckily they saved the engine, didn't want to turn due to how long it sat.. so, the filters you are seeing are filtering that unknown mileage engine that did say RUNS GOOD on car-part.com ( even the pictures I saved of the donor car complete with VIN# are gone, due to switching phones. Did say HIGH MILES in notes. This did not deter me.)

So, since I did use the last of my HPL product on it, since I can confirm this car used at least 1.5 quarts of oil in ~1500 miles when I delivered ~600lbs product to a B I T O G er in South Carolina on maiden voyage.. well, I decided to again start the cleaning regimen. If it was due to (Oil control) rings. (The PCV was also given an attempt at cleaning with various pene lubes and WD40 as well. To avoid the possible debacle of reassembly .)

Therefore,, we have MMO, some Seafoam, and various motor oils as well as same MMO and Seafoam being used in induction cleaning, only did a full oil change recently so dark, gas-smelling oil seems to have done a lot of cleaning, the half quart EC got burned off somewhere along the way in what appears to be an oil burner of an engine... somewhat. Rate may have slowed, I'm doing my best to monitor.

Blue MP filter next mailed to @53' Stude (was asking what a 53 Foot Stude is. Studebaker? Beyond that.. I got nothin) will hopefully have some HPL Engine Cleaner introduced on the tail end. Filters are easier for me to change than oil... Unrelated, but also possible due to fuel and possible fuel dilution: Car sets P0420 and upstream H02S may be sitting at 4 volts. that's too high....

I also drive my car like it is a Ferrari on long stretches of wide open highway "sometimes" so there's that. As to load, attempts to keep things clean, car sets P0420 and has inspection soon so... it's both my Ferrari and my Rolls Royce since I installed the leather seats. still the only car that sounds broken when it is cold and wow do I hate that. Might sell it next year, it bothers me that much if it doesn't stop . If I do, a B I T O G er can have it for.. let's call it $2000. Everything is NEW on it so that's a steal (no seriously like 80% of the car is either new rebuilt or perfect new fluid. You name it it has been done. Passing inspection December too. But we won't visit that topic just yet. This is all about the engine the filter came off of.)

So now you probably see why I changed the filter so. Much. Because filters are cheap and engines are not. Oil is also plentiful and varied.............................

 

[OVERKILL]

Hey hey. The world is exploding around me, somewhat but not really. Just seeing this Sunday A.M. .... sorry for all delay @OVERKILL and all.

Okay, haven't even seen the pictures of how the filters look yet but I can tell you that I've used a ton of cleaners. A ton. Like, literally, a lot. This all started last year with the HPL stuff, I purchased some, I do believe I was gifted some, speaks to the excellent character of everyone at HPL, truly outstanding. One-sentence backstory: Somehow, some way, I never made it to the event in August (despite planning all summer and hitting the road to go) so. Enter EJ engine with unknown mileage, had to go to some lengths to get it.. sat for about 4 years, approximately maybe, car it came out of was scrapped and crushed, luckily they saved the engine, didn't want to turn due to how long it sat.. so, the filters you are seeing are filtering that unknown mileage engine that did say RUNS GOOD on car-part.com ( even the pictures I saved of the donor car complete with VIN# are gone, due to switching phones. Did say HIGH MILES in notes. This did not deter me.)

So, since I did use the last of my HPL product on it, since I can confirm this car used at least 1.5 quarts of oil in ~1500 miles when I delivered ~600lbs product to a B I T O G er in South Carolina on maiden voyage.. well, I decided to again start the cleaning regimen. If it was due to (Oil control) rings. (The PCV was also given an attempt at cleaning with various pene lubes and WD40 as well. To avoid the possible debacle of reassembly .)

Therefore,, we have MMO, some Seafoam, and various motor oils as well as same MMO and Seafoam being used in induction cleaning, only did a full oil change recently so dark, gas-smelling oil seems to have done a lot of cleaning, the half quart EC got burned off somewhere along the way in what appears to be an oil burner of an engine... somewhat. Rate may have slowed, I'm doing my best to monitor.

Blue MP filter next mailed to @53' Stude (was asking what a 53 Foot Stude is. Studebaker? Beyond that.. I got nothin) will hopefully have some HPL Engine Cleaner introduced on the tail end. Filters are easier for me to change than oil... Unrelated, but also possible due to fuel and possible fuel dilution: Car sets P0420 and upstream H02S may be sitting at 4 volts. that's too high....

I also drive my car like it is a Ferrari on long stretches of wide open highway "sometimes" so there's that. As to load, attempts to keep things clean, car sets P0420 and has inspection soon so... it's both my Ferrari and my Rolls Royce since I installed the leather seats. still the only car that sounds broken when it is cold and wow do I hate that. Might sell it next year, it bothers me that much if it doesn't stop . If I do, a B I T O G er can have it for.. let's call it $2000. Everything is NEW on it so that's a steal (no seriously like 80% of the car is either new rebuilt or perfect new fluid. You name it it has been done. Passing inspection December too. But we won't visit that topic just yet. This is all about the engine the filter came off of.)

So now you probably see why I changed the filter so. Much. Because filters are cheap and engines are not. Oil is also plentiful and varied.............................

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So, I assume the vehicle has the correct displacement engine once again? But this engine is of... questionable health.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

So, I assume the vehicle has the correct displacement engine once again? But this engine is of... questionable health.

Yeah it does. The engine itself was an unknown on the miles but yeah it's an actual EJ251 and oh my goodness do I hate how it sounds on a cold start. I've been tolerating it the best I can but ultimately I just might sell that car if it bothers me that much this will be the only car I've ever had that sounds like that when it's cold other cars definitely don't sound like that when it's cold and apparently it's the nature of this particular boxer engine and I don't like it. This also my hangup on 0W oils ( which everyone says it's supposed to help but the composition of the oils seems to help more.)

The engine runs GREAT just.. piston slap?? Its just. Unnerving.

Now if only I knew how to get to the cylinders to do a compression test I'm actually thinking the numbers are great. It's just that **** sound before it warms up. Is quiet when warm...

OH guys also forgot. Filter drop in the dirt when changing it, that also could be some of what you are seeing. Soil.

 

[The Critic]

Hey hey. The world is exploding around me, somewhat but not really. Just seeing this Sunday A.M. .... sorry for all delay @OVERKILL and all.

Okay, haven't even seen the pictures of how the filters look yet but I can tell you that I've used a ton of cleaners. A ton. Like, literally, a lot. This all started last year with the HPL stuff, I purchased some, I do believe I was gifted some, speaks to the excellent character of everyone at HPL, truly outstanding. One-sentence backstory: Somehow, some way, I never made it to the event in August (despite planning all summer and hitting the road to go) so. Enter EJ engine with unknown mileage, had to go to some lengths to get it.. sat for about 4 years, approximately maybe, car it came out of was scrapped and crushed, luckily they saved the engine, didn't want to turn due to how long it sat.. so, the filters you are seeing are filtering that unknown mileage engine that did say RUNS GOOD on car-part.com ( even the pictures I saved of the donor car complete with VIN# are gone, due to switching phones. Did say HIGH MILES in notes. This did not deter me.)

So, since I did use the last of my HPL product on it, since I can confirm this car used at least 1.5 quarts of oil in ~1500 miles when I delivered ~600lbs product to a B I T O G er in South Carolina on maiden voyage.. well, I decided to again start the cleaning regimen. If it was due to (Oil control) rings. (The PCV was also given an attempt at cleaning with various pene lubes and WD40 as well. To avoid the possible debacle of reassembly .)

Therefore,, we have MMO, some Seafoam, and various motor oils as well as same MMO and Seafoam being used in induction cleaning, only did a full oil change recently so dark, gas-smelling oil seems to have done a lot of cleaning, the half quart EC got burned off somewhere along the way in what appears to be an oil burner of an engine... somewhat. Rate may have slowed, I'm doing my best to monitor.

Blue MP filter next mailed to @53' Stude (was asking what a 53 Foot Stude is. Studebaker? Beyond that.. I got nothin) will hopefully have some HPL Engine Cleaner introduced on the tail end. Filters are easier for me to change than oil... Unrelated, but also possible due to fuel and possible fuel dilution: Car sets P0420 and upstream H02S may be sitting at 4 volts. that's too high....

I also drive my car like it is a Ferrari on long stretches of wide open highway "sometimes" so there's that. As to load, attempts to keep things clean, car sets P0420 and has inspection soon so... it's both my Ferrari and my Rolls Royce since I installed the leather seats. still the only car that sounds broken when it is cold and wow do I hate that. Might sell it next year, it bothers me that much if it doesn't stop . If I do, a B I T O G er can have it for.. let's call it $2000. Everything is NEW on it so that's a steal (no seriously like 80% of the car is either new rebuilt or perfect new fluid. You name it it has been done. Passing inspection December too. But we won't visit that topic just yet. This is all about the engine the filter came off of.)

So now you probably see why I changed the filter so. Much. Because filters are cheap and engines are not. Oil is also plentiful and varied.............................

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Can you please be more succinct? Just the facts will suffice. A long-winded explanation with extra storytelling is unnecessary.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

Can you please be more succinct? Just the facts will suffice. A long-winded explanation with extra storytelling is unnecessary.

Okay, fine.

It was asked if I used cleaners because of what was seen inside the filters. I did.

The cleaners were mostly MMO, some Seafoam, maybe the last of my HPL due to what was available in store.

Note the inside of the 6607 after this one for comparison.

 

[53' Stude]

Can you please be more succinct? Just the facts will suffice. A long-winded explanation with extra storytelling is unnecessary.