Super S ATF+4?

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They sell these Super S (Smitty's Supply) products at Autobarn stores and they actually cost more than their other bargain brand, Wolf's Head. I would have no problem running it for 30K or so since it meets current specs.
 
I think ATF+4 requires a synthetic base stock so you could probably go even further before changing it. 50K is probably fine.
 
Originally Posted By: sanitarium16
ok good, it says it is made with a group VI Base stock, im sure it meets chrysler specifications if its ATF+4?


There is no such thing as Group VI base stock. What it says is it's made with "high VI base stocks," meaning high viscosity index base stocks.

Here is a list of Chrysler approved and licensed ATF+4. Smitty's is not on the list, so they are in violation of US trademark law just by having ATF+4 on the bottle. I wouldn't use this junk in my transmission.

Chrysler approved and licensed ATF+4 brands.
 
I would call the 800 number and ask the 'customer service rep' if this product is approved by Chrysler. The list may be outdated or else Smitty is in violation. Let us know.
 
While they are in violation of the ATF+4 trademark I seriously doubt that their product will damage your transmission. If it were my Jeep I'd leave it in for at least a year and save some $$$.
 
My friend owns the shop and i told him about this. The parts place is giving him a refund for the fluid and he is going to flush it with mopar fluid. Ill pay the difference i dont care its cheap insurance instead of a $3,000 transmission down the road.
 
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I drained the atf+4 outa the durango with 100k miles and it looked new. any real ATF+4 such as mopar or valvoline is great stuff----makes you feel like you're wasting money when changing
 
I used the submission form at centerforqa.com to inquire about Smitty's ATF+4. Here is the reply e-mail I just got:

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Thank you for your contact. Smitty's is not a licensed product and,
therefore, not recommended for use in Chrysler transmissions.

ATF+4(r) is a unique formulation that has been designed specifically to
meet the exacting requirements of Chrysler transmissions. The fluid has
gone through an extensive developmental and testing process, including
more than one million miles of severe field testing. It is a high
performance, synthetic fluid that provides significant reduction in
component wear, superior temperature performance, consistent shift
quality, and exceptional friction modifying properties.

Only licensed ATF+4(r) products (with "ATF+4(r)" as part of the brand
name and a valid license number on the back of the label) contain the
unique formulation. Other look-alike products that claim to be suitable
for use in Chrysler transmissions have not gone through Chrysler's
rigorous testing process and are not approved or recommended for use in
Chrysler transmissions.

Thank you for your interest in properly caring for your Chrysler
vehicle. I hope this provides you with the information you need. If
you have any questions, please contact me.

Sincerely,
Rebecca Cox

The Center For Quality Assurance
4800 James Savage Rd.
Midland, MI 48642 USA

Phone: +1 989-496-2399
Fax: +1 989-496-3438
Email: [email protected]
 
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