Lubegard Power-Steering Fluid (PSF) Recommendations From Manufacturer

[Number_35]

I look after the four vehicles in the family -

2002 Mazda MPV 3.0

2007 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3

2009 Mazda5 DOHC 2.3

2009 Kia Sedona DOHC 3.8

We have severe winters here, and the Dodge's PS pump growls all winter, basically as soon as the temperatures drop below freezing.

I've siphoned out and refilled the PSF reservoirs on all four vehicles regularly.

Refills to date:

MPV - Valvoline MaxLife MV ATF (which meets the Mazda M-III spec for ATF to be used as PSF)

Grand Caravan - Whichever flavour of ATF+4 I'm using for the current ATF drain-and-fill

Mazda5 - Recochem OEM Asian-vehicle PSF

Sedona - Recochem OEM Asian-vehicle PSF

Anyway, I've heard good things about Lubegard's PSF quieting down growling PSF when nothing else works, and also thought that I'd like to standardize on one PSF for all vehicles.

I found the Lubegard website a bit confusing, a bit like trying to drink out of a firehose.

I emailed them yesterday, listing the four vehicles and the factory recommendations for PSF, and got a nice reply within a few hours. Lubegard recommends the use of their 23232 PSF in all four vehicles. I ordered some last night, and am looking forward to trying it.

https://lubegard.com/product/complete-synthetic-power-steering-fluid/

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Most cars aren't picky about power steering fluid, except Honda and some Euro cars

 

[Tempest1]

Been using it in my Son's 02 Tundra and so far so good. Rarely gets below +30F here though.... 43% PAO according to their MSDS.

 

[Number_35]

Most cars aren't picky about power steering fluid, except Honda and some Euro cars

Interestingly enough, Lubegard makes a 2nd type of PSF specifically for Honda and Acura.

 

[wander2039]

Coming back Alaska our RV's (04 Chevy Express) power steering kept getting louder and louder. At a rest stop in the middle of Montana I did 2-3 reservoir swaps and after few miles its got quieter and no issues since. That was a couple years ago. Just did the Dakota's but haven't put that many miles on it. Good stuff like most of their products. They have a separate product for Honda's.

 

[GSCJR]

I look after the four vehicles in the family -

2002 Mazda MPV 3.0

2007 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3

2009 Mazda5 DOHC 2.3

2009 Kia Sedona DOHC 3.8

We have severe winters here, and the Dodge's PS pump growls all winter, basically as soon as the temperatures drop below freezing.

I've siphoned out and refilled the PSF reservoirs on all four vehicles regularly.

Refills to date:

MPV - Valvoline MaxLife MV ATF (which meets the Mazda M-III spec for ATF to be used as PSF)

Grand Caravan - Whichever flavour of ATF+4 I'm using for the current ATF drain-and-fill

Mazda5 - Recochem OEM Asian-vehicle PSF

Sedona - Recochem OEM Asian-vehicle PSF

Anyway, I've heard good things about Lubegard's PSF quieting down growling PSF when nothing else works, and also thought that I'd like to standardize on one PSF for all vehicles.

I found the Lubegard website a bit confusing, a bit like trying to drink out of a firehose.

I emailed them yesterday, listing the four vehicles and the factory recommendations for PSF, and got a nice reply within a few hours. Lubegard recommends the use of their 23232 PSF in all four vehicles. I ordered some last night, and am looking forward to trying it.

https://lubegard.com/product/complete-synthetic-power-steering-fluid/

Sounds like a good move. In recent years, I started using Honda Power Steering Fluid in all PS systems.

 

[oil pan 4]

I look after the four vehicles in the family -

2002 Mazda MPV 3.0

2007 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3

2009 Mazda5 DOHC 2.3

2009 Kia Sedona DOHC 3.8

We have severe winters here, and the Dodge's PS pump growls all winter, basically as soon as the temperatures drop below freezing.

I've siphoned out and refilled the PSF reservoirs on all four vehicles regularly.

Refills to date:

MPV - Valvoline MaxLife MV ATF (which meets the Mazda M-III spec for ATF to be used as PSF)

Grand Caravan - Whichever flavour of ATF+4 I'm using for the current ATF drain-and-fill

Mazda5 - Recochem OEM Asian-vehicle PSF

Sedona - Recochem OEM Asian-vehicle PSF

Anyway, I've heard good things about Lubegard's PSF quieting down growling PSF when nothing else works, and also thought that I'd like to standardize on one PSF for all vehicles.

I found the Lubegard website a bit confusing, a bit like trying to drink out of a firehose.

I emailed them yesterday, listing the four vehicles and the factory recommendations for PSF, and got a nice reply within a few hours. Lubegard recommends the use of their 23232 PSF in all four vehicles. I ordered some last night, and am looking forward to trying it.

https://lubegard.com/product/complete-synthetic-power-steering-fluid/

I put ATF in everything.

 

[Number_35]

I put ATF in everything.

That's often the factory recommendation - but apparently a dedicated PSF can give better results.

I guess I'll find out.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

I look after the four vehicles in the family -

2002 Mazda MPV 3.0

2007 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3

2009 Mazda5 DOHC 2.3

2009 Kia Sedona DOHC 3.8

We have severe winters here, and the Dodge's PS pump growls all winter, basically as soon as the temperatures drop below freezing.

I've siphoned out and refilled the PSF reservoirs on all four vehicles regularly.

Refills to date:

MPV - Valvoline MaxLife MV ATF (which meets the Mazda M-III spec for ATF to be used as PSF)

Grand Caravan - Whichever flavour of ATF+4 I'm using for the current ATF drain-and-fill

Mazda5 - Recochem OEM Asian-vehicle PSF

Sedona - Recochem OEM Asian-vehicle PSF

Anyway, I've heard good things about Lubegard's PSF quieting down growling PSF when nothing else works, and also thought that I'd like to standardize on one PSF for all vehicles.

I found the Lubegard website a bit confusing, a bit like trying to drink out of a firehose.

I emailed them yesterday, listing the four vehicles and the factory recommendations for PSF, and got a nice reply within a few hours. Lubegard recommends the use of their 23232 PSF in all four vehicles. I ordered some last night, and am looking forward to trying it.

https://lubegard.com/product/complete-synthetic-power-steering-fluid/

CHF11s is typically the bees-knees for cold weather.

 

[oil pan 4]

That's often the factory recommendation - but apparently a dedicated PSF can give better results.

I guess I'll find out.

I haven't had to replace a power steering pump since I started using only ATF in the power steering in the late 1990s.
I'm not sure what advantage dedicated power steering fluids are supposed to give.

 

[Number_35]

CHF11s is typically the bees-knees for cold weather.

I hadn't heard of it, but see it's got good reviews. It's a bit cheaper than the Lubegard too, although shipping might change that.

 

[Number_35]

I haven't had to replace a power steering pump since I started using only ATF in the power steering in the late 1990s.
I'm not sure what advantage dedicated power steering fluids are supposed to give.

If the Lubegard quiets down the PS pump in the Dodge, I'll be happy.

 

[GSCJR]

CHF11s is typically the bees-knees for cold weather.

This is usually my second choice for all makes and models after the Honda Power Steering Fluid, due to cost.

 

[GSCJR]

I hadn't heard of it, but see it's got good reviews. It's a bit cheaper than the Lubegard too, although shipping might change that.

If you want to save a few bucks on Pentosin, get part # 1405116

 

[Johnny248]

Most cars aren't picky about power steering fluid, except Honda and some Euro cars

The Lubegard meets Pentosin and Electro/Hyrdo fluid applications also. Just no Honda.

 

[Number_35]

The Lubegard meets Pentosin and Electro/Hyrdo fluid applications also. Just no Honda.

I wonder what's different about Honda Power Steering Fluid?

 

[RobbS]

Just got done changing my power steering fluid 30 min ago. Did it yesterday too. Looks like I may have to go 3-4 intervals to clear it up. The fluid looks great, it's a bright red fluid. I've used Mobil 1 ATF the past 15 years.it takes a while to flush out the old stuff. Don't waste your Lube guard trying to flush out old stuff. Just a FYI for ya. I'm putting in some AMSOIL power steering fluid slowly. Good luck.

 

[3800Series]

I wonder what's different about Honda Power Steering Fluid?

Not a 100% on it but my understanding is the Honda Power Steering Fluid is slightly thicker, and the biggest their systems typically use different seals which don't play nice with most ATF.

 

[RobbS]

Not a 100% on it but my understanding is the Honda Power Steering Fluid is slightly thicker, and the biggest their systems typically use different seals which don't play nice with most ATF.

You can search BITOG and the Honda fluid does have some kind of magic in ít.

 

[Johnny248]

Not a 100% on it but my understanding is the Honda Power Steering Fluid is slightly thicker, and the biggest their systems typically use different seals which don't play nice with most ATF.

I believe that is correct. Higher viscosity, some sort of magic for their elastomer seals, and friction modifiers. There has to be something different enough that it never makes it on the "multi-use" fluids.