Struggling with 2003 Camry update

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Originally Posted By: kschachn
One of his techniques is to use senselessly random questions/scenarios as obfuscation. So far it has worked well, apparently.


I think only PandaBear is falling for it.

Oh yeah, junkyard sourced struts. Really good idea!
 
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getting a junkyard steering knuckle will make the wheel bearing job easier? it includes the wheel bearing? Cheap and hardly any labor? But what if their knuckle is bad even if it has a good bearing? HOw do you know or can tell if a steering knuckle is bad or going bad? They typically dont go bad, right? just the bearing? or shoudl I just get the 74.99 timken from autozone (only one left in stock, they aren't selling it after and will have duralast for 82.99 or moog for 86.99, the hub and bearing) and the timken has a snap ring and is a kit whereas the moog and duralast only have the bearing and hub without the snap ring, which toyota wants 6.99 for!
 
Originally Posted By: engineer20
getting a junkyard steering knuckle will make the wheel bearing job easier? it includes the wheel bearing? Cheap and hardly any labor? But what if their knuckle is bad even if it has a good bearing? HOw do you know or can tell if a steering knuckle is bad or going bad? They typically dont go bad, right? just the bearing? or shoudl I just get the 74.99 timken from autozone (only one left in stock, they aren't selling it after and will have duralast for 82.99 or moog for 86.99, the hub and bearing) and the timken has a snap ring and is a kit whereas the moog and duralast only have the bearing and hub without the snap ring, which toyota wants 6.99 for!


Maybe you are trolling and maybe you are seriously seeking help. In either case, you should be under a doctor's care.
 
Originally Posted By: artbuc
Originally Posted By: kschachn
One of his techniques is to use senselessly random questions/scenarios as obfuscation. So far it has worked well, apparently.


I think only PandaBear is falling for it.

Oh yeah, junkyard sourced struts. Really good idea!


Well, I do have an OCD for this

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Originally Posted By: engineer20
getting a junkyard steering knuckle will make the wheel bearing job easier? it includes the wheel bearing? Cheap and hardly any labor? But what if their knuckle is bad even if it has a good bearing? HOw do you know or can tell if a steering knuckle is bad or going bad? They typically dont go bad, right? just the bearing? or shoudl I just get the 74.99 timken from autozone (only one left in stock, they aren't selling it after and will have duralast for 82.99 or moog for 86.99, the hub and bearing) and the timken has a snap ring and is a kit whereas the moog and duralast only have the bearing and hub without the snap ring, which toyota wants 6.99 for!


How do you install a wheel bearing without a hydraulic press? You either buy the whole component with wheel bearing already pressed in (junk yard), or pay someone to press it in (new).

How do you tell if your car is bad even if it has good steering knuckles or wheel bearings?
 
It is easy to inspect bearings and struts yourself and tell if they are good or bad. If they are bad, many people with limited tools or ability will then go to a garage and have them replaced professionally.

You are doing this absolutely the wrong way around.
 
Do bushings or changing bushings affect alignment? I went to the dealer for a quick inspection, since I had it inspected last month, they didn't do a full out inspection as it'd be the same, but I told him to test drive it and listen to the suspension noises. He said it'd be 67 dollars for a full inspection of the suspension, so I said no, but he said he could test drive and visually inspect it for me. He said the ball joint is now fine, but the noise is the rear struts. Also, it may be the left control arm bushing (not the right? my ball joint was the right ball joint I changed, so wouldn't taht control arm go bad?) he said it's the left.

Also, beacuse I'm changing my rear stab link bushings, he told me the control arm bushings aren't serviceable and you need a whole new control arm, but I don't think that's the case, they are serviceable, right? If yes, will it change or alter the alignment if I replace it or no? Or not by much, not as much as if i were to replace the control arm or some other suspension compoenent? Thanks.

What about the rear stab links bushings? Will those affect alignment? If I don't change them, will it make my alignment go out again? since I was told a bad ball joint/bad suspension parts can make your alignment go out, but what about a worn bushing you don't change out, or will it change the alignment after you change it? Thanks.
 
Lol it needs control arm bushings too?

Jesus you could have just bought new control arms with ball joints in them.
 
Originally Posted By: engineer20
Do bushings or changing bushings affect alignment? I went to the dealer for a quick inspection, since I had it inspected last month, they didn't do a full out inspection as it'd be the same, but I told him to test drive it and listen to the suspension noises. He said it'd be 67 dollars for a full inspection of the suspension, so I said no, but he said he could test drive and visually inspect it for me. He said the ball joint is now fine, but the noise is the rear struts. Also, it may be the left control arm bushing (not the right? my ball joint was the right ball joint I changed, so wouldn't taht control arm go bad?) he said it's the left.

Also, beacuse I'm changing my rear stab link bushings, he told me the control arm bushings aren't serviceable and you need a whole new control arm, but I don't think that's the case, they are serviceable, right? If yes, will it change or alter the alignment if I replace it or no? Or not by much, not as much as if i were to replace the control arm or some other suspension compoenent? Thanks.

What about the rear stab links bushings? Will those affect alignment? If I don't change them, will it make my alignment go out again? since I was told a bad ball joint/bad suspension parts can make your alignment go out, but what about a worn bushing you don't change out, or will it change the alignment after you change it? Thanks.


Yes. Yes. No. Yes. No. No. No. Yes. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. No. Yes. No. No. Yes. I think that answers all of your questions. Let me know if I missed one. Oh, don't forget to use your coupon at the junkyard.
 
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Originally Posted By: artbuc
Yes. Yes. No. Yes. No. No. No. Yes. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. No. Yes. No. No. Yes. I think that answers all of your questions.

He asked TEN questions and you have provided EIGHTEEN answers. This means that you have pre-answered most or all of engineer20's next post! That is very considerate of you.
 
do larger car suspensions last longer? haven't experi3enced any issues with the taurus. it'd make sense, as they'd have more space to absorb the bumps and stuff on the road, or does size of suspension not matter? does the taurus have a longer life expectanccy on suspension componenets than the smaller camry, or will an suv have a longer lasting susepnsion since it's bigger? Thanks.
 
Originally Posted By: engineer20
Do bushings or changing bushings affect alignment? I went to the dealer for a quick inspection, since I had it inspected last month, they didn't do a full out inspection as it'd be the same, but I told him to test drive it and listen to the

suspension noises. He said it'd be 67 dollars for a full inspection of the suspension, so I said no, but he said he could test drive and visually inspect it for me. He said the ball joint is now fine, but the noise is the rear struts. Also, it may be the left control arm bushing (not the right? my ball joint was the right ball joint I changed, so wouldn't taht control arm go bad?) he said it's the left.

Also, beacuse I'm changing my rear stab link bushings, he told me the control arm bushings aren't serviceable and you need a whole new control arm, but I don't think that's the case, they are serviceable, right? If yes, will it change or alter the alignment if I replace it or no? Or not by much, not as much as if i were to replace the control arm or some other suspension compoenent? Thanks.

What about the rear stab links bushings? Will those affect alignment? If I don't change them, will it make my alignment go out again? since I was told a bad ball joint/bad suspension parts can make your alignment go out, but what about a worn bushing you don't change out, or will it change the alignment after you change it? Thanks.


Worn out bushings are fine, the car will feel bumpy but it will drive, steer, stop. Just get used to it, it is a 10 year old car.

Alignments will change every time you adjust something that's part of suspension geometry. Assuming you have taken geometry in high school, the "safe bet" would be every single links between the frame of the car to the wheels, front and back, every bushings, every knuckles, every ball joints, etc that is not high precision or that can flex (so in theory wheel bearings will not affect alignment if you put it back the same way.

And therefore every time you hit the curb you bent you suspension geometry and there goes your alignment.

And therefore over time when you wear out your bushings the geometry changes and there goes your alignment from 10 years ago.

And therefore every time you replace components the dimension changes slightly, and there goes your alignment.

And therefore every time you take suspension or steering apart and didn't put it back to the same place and there goes your alignment.

Your dealer said things are bad, maybe they are just bad and not BAD. For your car I'd just leave it alone if it is just uncomfortable rather than not passing inspection or wear out tires prematurely (like 1 set within 1 year). Replacing everything will cost more than your car is worth and you will not get your money back before rust out in Michigan.

Dealer said control arm bushings cannot be replaced, means it cost more money to press bushing than to buy the whole control arm, or the process may damage the metal of the control arm enough that it is not worth taking the risk. Again, if you do not have a hydraulic press or do not want to take the chance of damaging the control arm and your wheel fell off in the middle of a high way, listen to your mechanics / dealers who will be liable for changing bushings rather than the whole arm.

Originally Posted By: engineer20
do larger car suspensions last longer? haven't experi3enced any issues with the taurus. it'd make sense, as they'd have more space to absorb the bumps and stuff on the road, or does size of suspension not matter? does the taurus have a longer life expectanccy on suspension componenets than the smaller camry, or will an suv have a longer lasting susepnsion since it's bigger? Thanks.


It depends on the car, the road condition, the driver. You can have a large car with less load designed and it will not last longer than a small car, or you can have a premium small car that is design for a larger load and will out last the larger car.

In your case, if you do not mess around with your car's OEM suspension components, it should in theory last longer than if you mess around with it using low cost aftermarket components.
 
Originally Posted By: engineer20
do larger car suspensions last longer? haven't experi3enced any issues with the taurus. it'd make sense, as they'd have more space to absorb the bumps and stuff on the road, or does size of suspension not matter? does the taurus have a longer life expectanccy on suspension componenets than the smaller camry, or will an suv have a longer lasting susepnsion since it's bigger? Thanks.


Yes, size does matter. The bigger the better, especially regarding junkyards because you can find many parts that you can not get at HF.
 
Tires wearing unevenly is a senseless waste of money on tires.

You need to (here is the hard part) PAY SOMEONE to put the car on their alignment machine and align it. Because alignment machines and people skilled to use them are expensive, no one does this for free. That is a fact you have to deal with somehow. It is the ONLY WAY you're going to stop the car from eating tires.

If something is worn or damaged too far to be able to adjust the suspension into alignment, they will tell you what needs to be done. And they can usually pin it down to just what needs to be done, rather than the laundry list you get from a free inspection.
 
Originally Posted By: engineer20
do larger car suspensions last longer? haven't experi3enced any issues with the taurus. it'd make sense, as they'd have more space to absorb the bumps and stuff on the road, or does size of suspension not matter? does the taurus have a longer life expectanccy on suspension componenets than the smaller camry, or will an suv have a longer lasting susepnsion since it's bigger? Thanks.


Yes. A bigger car has more suspension travel and bigger tires, so the angle of impact of a pothole is more properly upwards and less damagingly rearwards. Imagine a tiny piano wheel hitting a pothole for the best example-- it'd snap it right off.

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The dodge dynasty shared an undercarriage with their minivan, for example, and it was very robust. This should be your next car, actually.
 
Busy right now but the car is eating front tires pretty quickly which is why I want to fix stuff and align the car. Then should I just get a moog control arm if the bushing is bad but do that later? The left rear strut is leaking so I should definitely replace my rear struts as well as the stab bar links and bushings.
 
What's wrong with leaking struts?

What's going to happen if your struts are bad? Leave you on the side of the road broken down? No, they won't.
 
Originally Posted By: engineer20
Busy right now but the car is eating front tires pretty quickly which is why I want to fix stuff and align the car. Then should I just get a moog control arm if the bushing is bad but do that later? The left rear strut is leaking so I should definitely replace my rear struts as well as the stab bar links and bushings.


Yeah...that's the ticket! But if you carry your lunch, be sure to ride the bus...or just use Facebook ... Or maybe email for quicker service...do you know what the price of gas is right now...I'm just wondering...or should we use diesel fuel...which is better...the guy at Costco wasn't sure.
 
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