STP S10158XL or Fram Ultra XG10158 for '16 Toyota 4Runner?

[Sequoiasoon]

I'm doing an oil change on neighbors 4Runner in the morning before they go visit family with issues. I would have preferred to get the factory Toyota YZZA5 but not an option at this point. Maintenance light is already on, no clue how long. Last OCI was in August, not sure on mileage but they are at like 155k iirc so like 15-20k per year normally. Oil is a 1/4 qt down from full line but dirty. Oil will be Valvoline Restore and Protect 0W-20 that I already picked up.

I have both filters, price difference is about $4 (Fram costs more) and I can return either one. They are not great with keeping up on oil changes, trying to help maybe get that on track.

For those that reply, which filter would you recommend and why? I'll be doing it at like 8am.

 

[KCJeep]

I “like” the STP better but the Ultra has a longer mileage rating which would probably be preferable since the time in use may be excessive. Given that I’d use the Ultra.

Can’t believe I just typed that I’m gonna get booted by the cool kids @Zee09 .

 

[wpod]

All that really matters is the oil filter doesn't fail.

 

[KCJeep]

Another benefit of the Ultra a is it will wave at you later. Very friendly.

 

[bbhero]

All that really matters is the oil filter doesn't fail.

Is that what your mom told you when you were in school ?

“ All that matters is that you don’t fail”.

 

[Mewbs]

Check the ultra if its wired backed if so use it, if not go with the STP XL.

 

[BrendanC]

Check the ultra if its wired backed if so use it, if not go with the STP XL.

seconded, the STP XL will more than likely be a china or vietnam premium guard and they are excellent filters.

 

[Sequoiasoon]

Another benefit of the Ultra a is it will wave at you later. Very friendly.

The STP seems to waving before we start. Even more friendly.

Check the ultra if its wired backed if so use it, if not go with the STP XL.

No wire backing on either one. The Fram has much tighter pleat spacing. Only thing I see on a larger space is where the media is crimped together. I wonder if any issues like @wwillson saw?

I “like” the STP better but the Ultra has a longer mileage rating which would probably be preferable since the time in use may be excessive. Given that I’d use the Ultra.

Can’t believe I just typed that I’m gonna get booted by the cool kids @Zee09 .

The STP lists 10k, Fram lists 20k. Any clue what the factory Toyota one rates for? The 4Runner forum things I read say that the MM is set for 5k (tire rotation and others) and 10k for the OCI. It's a fixed set point from what they say. 5K from when you reset it.

STP XL

Fram Ultra

 

[Sequoiasoon]

seconded, the STP XL will more than likely be a china or vietnam premium guard and they are excellent filters.

STP made in Mexico
Fram made in Brazil

 

[Mewbs]

I'd go with a different filter than those 2 or run them short in hopes they don't tear.

 

[BAJA_05]

Fram for its 20K rating for me. Sounds like there in the mindset, its a Toyota and as long as there is oil in it were fine.

 

[FlyingVan]

Toss up a coin and install the Fram for the head or the STP for the tail.
The engine won't know the difference.

 

[fantastic]

So, are they going 15-20k a year before changing the oil? If so use the Ultra. If you are changing the oil twice a year at 7.5-10k miles then use the STP. Using the STP can be a good excuse for them to come back for a bi-annual oil change.

 

[ejes]

They're about the same; doesn't really matter much. Especially with the venerable 1GR-FE. I do 5k oil changes on my 4runner because my wife short trips it every day and us Royal Purple 20-968's that I got for 13 bucks from RP Direct, but I would use either one of those you have or the OEM without worry if it all I could get. Personally, I'd say with the situation you have with their OCI's, it is more about the oil than the filter.

 

[Sequoiasoon]

Thank you everyone. I went with the Fram for the 20k rating and my observation for pleat spacing etc. I told them when the MM turns on which will be 5k, to get it done or see me and we will do it. Looking at inspection sticker from mid February, they have gone 6k miles since then and he said last OCI was in August, unknown oil/filter.

Filter housing and drain plug were WAY over torqued. 2 skid plate/plastic shield bolts were snapped off in the skid plate (got them out also).

Here is the filter that came out.

 

[4WD]

Some of the cartridge XG’s are dual layer over nylon mesh
(Have one in my Jeep) …
XG10575’s: weak paper with a spray then called “synthetic”
(Maybe they hide the cheaper media in the can style filters)

 

[fantastic]

Thank you everyone. I went with the Fram for the 20k rating and my observation for pleat spacing etc. I told them when the MM turns on which will be 5k, to get it done or see me and we will do it. Looking at inspection sticker from mid February, they have gone 6k miles since then and he said last OCI was in August, unknown oil/filter.

Filter housing and drain plug were WAY over torqued. 2 skid plate/plastic shield bolts were snapped off in the skid plate (got them out also).

Here is the filter that came out.
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Appears to be a Purolator Tech oil filter so they were probably getting it done at a service shop. Thanks for the extra pics.

 

[Sequoiasoon]

All I can find is Amazon in quick search for up to 5k OCI. Purolater Tech TL25609.

 

[Sequoiasoon]

Appears to be a Purolator Tech oil filter so they were probably getting it done at a service shop. Thanks for the extra pics.

Yes, but last known in August '23 and they went 6k in less than 2 months.

Wasn't burning any that I can tell. The 6.6 qts brought it right back to about 1/4" from full mark. I put another 6 ounces in and it's full now.

 

[fantastic]

Yes, but last known in August '23 and they went 6k in less than 2 months.

Wasn't burning any that I can tell. The 6.6 qts brought it right back to about 1/4" from full mark. I put another 6 ounces in and it's full now.

Good deal, those tech's are nothing special but it appears it took some of the abuse just fine.