Started a healthy diet, when do I start to feel better?

I used to ride sometimes with a cruiser club, where we would meet on Sunday morning, ride 25 miles to some destination for breakfast, then 25 miles back to the start. In my case, I rode 12 miles to the start, so all in this was a 75-mile day for me. Most of the guys in this club were over 60. They didn't ride fast, but 50 miles was no problem. It's all about the intensity.

During hard efforts, I carried a sugar drink, and/or something to eat in the jersey pockets. Good times.
Makes sense.

And some people naturally can turn/burn glycogen more easily.

Currently I run on fat, naturally my blood lipids are up. Comes with the territory for some people.
 
Makes sense.

And some people naturally can turn/burn glycogen more easily.

Currently I run on fat, naturally my blood lipids are up. Comes with the territory for some people.

The muscles run off glycogen. It's how the body replaces depleted glycogen, which can vary.

There is a long thread on Bike Forums, where the advocates of the Keto diet say they are riding off their fat. This is only possible on long-slow rides, though. The body can't metabolize/convert fast enough for high-intensity efforts.
 
The muscles run off glycogen. It's how the body replaces depleted glycogen, which can vary.

There is a long thread on Bike Forums, where the advocates of the Keto diet say they are riding off their fat. This is only possible on long-slow rides, though. The body can't metabolize/convert fast enough for high-intensity efforts.
Agree. I understand. That's what I wrote. It varies.
 
Are you suggesting that @Pablo may not be fueling himself adequately for high-exertion activities?
Not suggesting, curious. My normal mountain biike rides are 2-2.5 hours and while I'm not training for racing when you have steep hills to climb you either ride it or walk it and I don't walk so I see high efforts every ride. I don't eat during these rides and don't stop and rest. I can't imagine going riding in the morning when I haven't eaten since noon yesterday. I bonked a few times on long group rides when I was young and not paying attention and it is an interesting thing. You can spin your legs but there's nothing there.
Sure, athletic competition. But even a "strenuous" bike ride - long- you should be smart enough to pace yourself. Burning for 3-4 hours? How young are you guys???
Since you asked I'm 69 and weight dipped to 159 for a bit from 172 while I was doing the "healthy eating" that started this thread. I've given up on it for now, just too hard having 2 menus plus daughter is back home again for a bit plus some other things going on that have to be dealt with.
 
Not suggesting, curious. My normal mountain biike rides are 2-2.5 hours and while I'm not training for racing when you have steep hills to climb you either ride it or walk it and I don't walk so I see high efforts every ride. I don't eat during these rides and don't stop and rest. I can't imagine going riding in the morning when I haven't eaten since noon yesterday. I bonked a few times on long group rides when I was young and not paying attention and it is an interesting thing. You can spin your legs but there's nothing there.

Since you asked I'm 69 and weight dipped to 159 for a bit from 172 while I was doing the "healthy eating" that started this thread. I've given up on it for now, just too hard having 2 menus plus daughter is back home again for a bit plus some other things going on that have to be dealt with.
You know you. We are not so far apart in age (68 real soon). If you need some carbs, then so be it. I'm not dictating anyone's diet.

Me? I don't need carbs much at all. I burn uphill hiking and biking. I play pickleball 2 hours and then go to a full hour intense exercise class. But I guess there is enough rest and build glycogen for ME.

I will say I eat a LOT over varied leafy veggies, tons. Organic, home grown is pure soil. THOSE are my carbs.
 
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I'm taking blood pressure medication, and getting off this is one of my goals. My morning blood pressure, when first waking up, is roughly 100/60. Reading that testing twice a day and averaging is a good plan, so I'll start doing that next. If I can consistently hit good numbers, I'll ask the doc to reduce the meds.
Yes, check morning and evenings, keep a record for your Dr. You sound like your in a good place.
For many people, morning reading will be the highest and evening lower. Reason - morning hormone releases gets you ready for the upcoming day. Im 69
 
A few weeks ago my doctor informed me my cholesterol was high.

total 213
hdl 66
triglycerides 58
ldl 133

I was pissed off at him that he hasn't been checking it every yr. That's his job, not mine. He wanted to start me on statins and I said no freaking way. So Im trying diet first. Anyway, I just retired last year and having watched my dad go thru bypass surgery 20 yrs ago i took immediate action. I am loosely following the diet Dr Ham is doing. You can watch him on youtube or check his website the diet is free. It's based somewhat on Dr Carl Esylton's diet, the guy who advised Bill Clinton after his heart episode. It's design to actually revers heart disease. No saturated fat can be eaten. No red meat. No refined flour. Only whole grain wheat. Chickpeas. No full fat dairy. Lots of greens. Pomegranate juice. Nattokinase. Berberine. Tons of fiber. Flax, chia, metamucil. Unfortunately I don't eat fish but that would also be beneficial.

We will see in a few months if it affected my cholesterol or not but I've taken off almost 10 pounds and dropped my blood pressure
from the high 120-140 range down to about 110-120. Yesterday my pressure was 107/67 so that's at least one positive so far. I've also been doing sprints on my exercise bike 5 sets of 20 seconds full speed, 60 seconds rest. I plan on building up the sets very soon.
Your Family history, at the least, pay for a CAC (calcium scan) worth the less than $200 my wife and I was $125 each this year.
My wife's score was = 0
Mine was 474 = indicates strong possibility of a heart attack in a couple years (as a statistic). Im already under a cardiologist care and have had an invasive cardiac angiogram 5 years ago. Lots of plaque but minimal blockages. No intervention, I want a new CT angiogram and trying to get one now, have to wait for a cardiologist appt. in two weeks. angiogram shows the soft plaque before the body can calcify it and make it safer but not completely safe. So if you have calcified plaque you can be pretty certain you will have soft too.

It will tell you if you have calcified plaque, if so the score will be above zero = you have arterial disease and at that point I would 100% take your doctors advice with a statin, I would also ask for a referral to a cardiologist at that point. Your regular doctor can order the scan for you, other places you can get it on your own but they will want to sell you a package of other scans too, if your ok with that then that is ok too. If you doctor orders it, you just get the CAC and it literally takes about 8 minutes. Some ins might pay for it, most will not. That then builds a case to stay of top of this. Not the end of the world if you drastically move away from any junk food, learn and listen to your doctor on statins, also blood sugar. Great book "The Diabetes Code" whether or not you have diabetes its a great read in the way we eat.

Im trying to get my 37 year old son to get one and offered to pay for it. Our family history is a train wreck, I am the survivor and plan on staying that way. I actually have come to enjoy this journey of what I have avoided so far vs the other males in my family.
Anyway, if my son has a score of more than 0 Im positive his doctor would prescribe a statin.
 
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With effort ride it's 40 to 60 grams of carbs for me. I guess we could discuss for hrs but under fueling is a big discussion now days people believing im low carb i can do this.
 
Kinda the point I suppose. Fuel for YOUR purpose. That level of carbs for the average BITOG crowd? Fat fat fat city, checked right into storage, thank you very much.
@Pablo , is that pic saying for a meal you eat fish, fish, & fish? (not sure what that is with the nuts on top.)
If you want to see what I eat, I post almost every day, unless camping and no reception:


Scroll back if curious.

@Pablo if you were to have a strenuous long hike or bike ride (no e bike) in the morning would you run out of gas?
See below, I provided an answer within context of this thread about MYSELF. Probably not worded correctly, and too late to edit.

Not at all. Not even close. I've done it multiple times.

That kinda of thing is mostly mental and partly old people tales. Even 15-20 or less BMI people have plenty of fat to burn plus what is in your gut is good for 24+ hours.
Let me apologize for the above response.

In context of a person going really hard for a long time, sure a person could run out of fuel. Athletes. People really really driven.

Do I run out during hard hiking or hard bike riding? No and in fact my BG goes UP during hard quick response reactive activities and goes up during both strength and endurance weight lifting. MY BG goes up in a hot shower (somewhat of an artifact). But drops decently rapidly after those activities. My BG drops after my single meal. (you read that correctly). This is because my body sees a need to send some insulin into my blood. Also when I walk the dog or just stroll, my BG drops off a cliff and plateaus around 85-95

In some ways I am a strange beast. I am what the new term is. LMHR. Lean Mass Hyper Responder. My idling BG can be a little high.. This is OK if a person is not fat. My blood lipids are high, but I have almost no very small LDL molecules. All the LDL is large and my HDL is good as are triglycerides centered to low.and has low inflammation markers. I WAS fat ~197, now 152 pounds. I had gout (high uric acid). My BP was borderline-high. Those numbers all look OK now.



Allow me to use my wife as an example.
5'5" or so. Slender Asian build. Popped a kid out. Good shape.
Eats three squares. Everyday. I was amazed how much she ate when we dated.
Anyway, big breakfast at 8am. Come 11 am (I have not eaten in near 24 hours at this point) she says she is "starving"! Now come on. Then she says she "feels faintish". Says she must have dropped BG down (I've been down to 55 and felt nothing - also her A1C is border on PRE like many people). Yet she has no idea and she won't even use the finger prick to check. My point is NOT to diagnose or pick on my wife, and she is not trying to lose weight or fat, BUT I'm saying most every person reading this thread could (not a recommendation) do some level of fasting WITH plenty of exercise and electrolyte hydration and lose weight and get better metabolic health and FEEL BETTER - the topic of this thread.
 
That race is local, they ran right by. She had a nutrition plan with that company based on experience and science and it worked. And she did the race largely unpaced/unsupported. Probably changed the elite level ultra endurance game.
She was never predicted to win she believed early on in the race way can it not be me. Her head was in the game and kept with it. I believe her total breaks aid station stops and sleep was a total of 20 minutes.
 
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Today's ride was bigger than normal, 26 miles and just over 3 hours all on dirt. I'm not training but I'm preparing for a big 32 mile ride in Moab in August with friends. I have the skill and fitness but don't spend 5-6 hours on the bike so working on that. Trying some different energy bars at 1 hour intervals to make sure they don't cause problems. The ride: The Whole Enchilada

@Pablo I admire your commitment to your diet and health.

She was never predicted to win she believed early on in the race way can it not be me. Her head was in the game and kept with it. I believe he totally breaks aid station stops and sleep was a total of 20 minutes.
I watched the race on YouTube and she never really looked in any distress at all. Amazing.
 
Today's ride was bigger than normal, 26 miles and just over 3 hours all on dirt. I'm not training but I'm preparing for a big 32 mile ride in Moab in August with friends. I have the skill and fitness but don't spend 5-6 hours on the bike so working on that. Trying some different energy bars at 1 hour intervals to make sure they don't cause problems. The ride: The Whole Enchilada

@Pablo I admire your commitment to your diet and health.


I watched the race on YouTube and she never really looked in any distress at all. Amazing.
She didn't she looked she had another 100 in her.
 
Why do these videos have to take half an hour to say something that can be said in five minutes?

So, as of today, I am down about 23 pounds since the end of January. This morning I swam 37 fifty yard laps. That is a little over a mile. Back at the end of January, when I started swimming, four laps was all I could do. Now I do 20 laps most days, a little more on some days. I still have a little over 17 pounds to go.

I will make up for all that this evening with rib steak, roll with butter, margarita and wine. There will be a vegetable.
 
Why do these videos have to take half an hour to say something that can be said in five minutes?

So, as of today, I am down about 23 pounds since the end of January. This morning I swam 37 fifty yard laps. That is a little over a mile. Back at the end of January, when I started swimming, four laps was all I could do. Now I do 20 laps most days, a little more on some days. I still have a little over 17 pounds to go.

I will make up for all that this evening with rib steak, roll with butter, margarita and wine. There will be a vegetable.
Way to go! When you get under 20% body fat the weight loss tapers off and gets more difficult in my experience.
 
Why do these videos have to take half an hour to say something that can be said in five minutes?

So, as of today, I am down about 23 pounds since the end of January. This morning I swam 37 fifty yard laps. That is a little over a mile. Back at the end of January, when I started swimming, four laps was all I could do. Now I do 20 laps most days, a little more on some days. I still have a little over 17 pounds to go.

I will make up for all that this evening with rib steak, roll with butter, margarita and wine. There will be a vegetable.
I agree. Most all videos even informative are toooooo long

And yes way to go. Skip the roll eat the butter. Skip the drink too haha hahaha
 
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