Splash lubrricated lawn tractor...?

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Dude, they've been making them for decades....

MOST lawn tractors have no filter... they just Barely started be common about 15-20 years ago.

Everything before that had no filter.
 
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Dude, they've been making them for decades....

MOST lawn tractors have no filter... they just Barely started be common about 15-20 years ago.

Everything before that had no filter.


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How is this thing called a Lawn TRACTOR? It is clearly a Riding mower! This thing screams "Cheap, bought out by MTD"

I actually believe that this mower is unfit for it's particular use and as such is defective and can be successfully litigated in small claims court.
 
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
How is this thing called a Lawn TRACTOR? It is clearly a Riding mower! This thing screams "Cheap, bought out by MTD"

I actually believe that this mower is unfit for it's particular use and as such is defective and can be successfully litigated in small claims court.


It reminds me of the Riding Mowers at Wards.
 
RUN away from anything in Lowes or Home Depot.

Spend the $1100 on a used Deere or Simplicity and you will get much more for your money.
 
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How is this thing called a Lawn TRACTOR? It is clearly a Riding mower!


A wild guess would be to differentiate it/them from those little
riders with the motor in the rear. 30" cut width, etc...
Those are still out there, not very popular and some are real junk.


My 2¢
 
Originally Posted By: mattwithcats
NO oil filter, splash lubricated...!


Some B&S engines with filters are also flinger (splash) lubricated.
 
My 6.5 HP MTD log splitter has done at least 6 cord , more like 10 cord most years for the past 15 years, no issues and minimal maintenance, not a tractor by any means , but reliable, and durable with splash lube .
 
Originally Posted By: dwendt44
...those little riders with the motor in the rear. 30" cut width, etc...
Those are still out there, not very popular and some are real junk.

Great googly moogly!!!

I must defend the 30" cut, rear engine riders!!
Bought one a few years ago on close out from Sears for $700 for Mom who is 74 and lives alone on a 3/4 acre lot.

Either me or my son cut the yard for her.
Now I'm a good son but not that great so sometimes I miss a week at her house. This leads to higher grass that I can't imagine mowing with a walk behind.

Enter the Craftsman 30" rear engine rider.
Perfect size that fits in her one car garage and still let's her park her car there.
Fully pressurized lubrication that takes a Wix 57890.
Cast iron cylinder sleeve and a forged crankshaft.

But Grandma doesn't care about that.

Grandma cares that someone shows up to cut her grass so that she doesn't have to pay a landscaper when she's on a fixed income.
Grandma cares that it starts every time and she doesn't have to have someone come out to the house to fix it for at least $70/hr.
Grandma cares that the purchase price wasn't $2499 like a new Deere S240 that won't fit in her 1 car garage with her car.
Grandma doesn't care that 30" riders aren't very popular.
In Grandma's experience, the quality has been great.

Grandma doesn't expect the mower to do anything else besides cut grass.

And that's why a 30" rear engine rider might not be the right choice for you, but it the perfect choice for Grandma.
 
Just because a B&S engine has an oil filter doesn't mean that it isn't still a "splash" lubricated engine. MOST B&S engines are splash lubricated because it is an effective, efficient, reliable, light weight, and inexpensive oiling system. Splash lubrication systems have been in wide-spread use since the dawn of the internal combustion engine.
When B&S first introduced filters on their OHV engines there was of course an oil pump also. This oil pump simply picked up the oil from the sump, ran it thru the filter and dumped the oil back out into the sump. Shortly, they started routing the discharged oil to the bottom main only, where it returned to the sump, that way they could say it was "pressurized". Note two things here, the bottom main bearing has never been a problem on B&S engines (because it is fully immersed in oil) AND IF the B&S engine is truly pressurized, it will say "fully pressurized", not just "pressurized".
Interestingly, Tecumseh vertical crankshaft engines have ALWAYS had a simple oil pump that pumped the oil through the cam shaft up to the upper crankshaft bearing where it discharged down onto the connecting rod bearing and cylinder to lubricate them "splash" style.
 
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A local repair shop guy said that these "garden tractors" get used so infrequently in many situations that they don't wear out they just get fouled up, the battery dies and the tires go flat. He said that for many households that $1,100 model will do just fine even though it might be the cheapest thing that the manufacturer could throw together for a large nationwide vendor.
 
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
A local repair shop guy said that these "garden tractors" get used so infrequently in many situations that they don't wear out they just get fouled up, the battery dies and the tires go flat. He said that for many households that $1,100 model will do just fine even though it might be the cheapest thing that the manufacturer could throw together for a large nationwide vendor.

Mine is a green HST version of that one and is 10+ years old. It cuts grass under its own power, and the seat isn't too bad. And I don't have to buy an oil filter. I'm actually surprised how tough it is and I can still buy parts for it. A 1000lb 54" lawn tractor would just be a pain to maneuver anyways on my hilly lawn dotted with trees and bushes.
The biggest issue so far is tubing the tires.
 
Pefectly fine as a rider mower. There's definitely a huge difference between the "lawn tractor" and "garden tractor" though. Easiest way to tell right off the bat is look at the rear wheels. Rider mowers, aka lawn tractors, will use a single nut to hold the rim on. Garden tractors that are built for heavier use, will have actual lug nuts holding the rims on. But if you're getting it to basically mow the lawn and maybe plow a smaller driveway, then this should be fine and last for years with basic maintenance upkeep.

L8R,
Matt
 
AFAIK most riding lawn mowers are splash lubed, however a pump does push oil through the filter. My 42in 21HP Craftsman is that way.
 
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Tecumseh had pressure lubrication on their vertical shaft engine but no filter. It only lubricated the main bearings. Everything else was splash.

Some brigs models have a pump and no filter that lubes the bearings or just a pump that runs through a filter.
 
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