So Long, Ford 5.4.

[The Critic]

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/08/11/ford-f-150-engines-for-2011-announced-includes-ecoboost-v6/

http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline...2-liter-v8.html

Say farewell to that slow (by 2011 standards) and spark plug eating dinosaur.

Good riddance.

 

[daves87rs]

RIP 5.4.

 

[musicmanbass]

That motor will not be missed by anyone...

except by repair shops and companies that rebuild heads.

 

[oilboy123]

Pretty impressive. Seems as though Ford has kind of lagged behind GM over the years. Maybe they have a little bit of a lead for once?

 

[Ben99GT]

The 5.4 lives on (in 4V trim) in the Shelby. And the 3Vs haven't had spark plugs issues since build date 11/07.

 

[milwaukee]

I can't say I mind to see it go. I have a $100 dollar tool in my garage to remove a "piece" of a specific spark plug in a specific motor (a 5.4 3v).

It is one of the dumbest designs in automotive history.

 

[The Critic]

Seems like people on autoblog are saying that the 3.7 won't be making as much power as the old 4.6, and the 5.0 will be making less power than the 5.4 when below 3800 RPM:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/08/11/ford-...t-v6/4#comments

Thoughts?

 

[beast3300]

The SHO motor is going to tow 11,300 lbs. This will be interesting.

 

[Ben99GT]

Originally Posted By: The Critic
Seems like people on autoblog are saying that the 3.7 won't be making as much power as the old 4.6, and the 5.0 will be making less power than the 5.4 when below 3800 RPM:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/08/11/ford-...t-v6/4#comments

Thoughts?


The old 4.6 2V made 248 HP/294 TQ, which is the engine the 3.7 will be replacing. 3.5s in FWD apps makes more power than that, the 3.7 will definitely make more power but it will give up some torque.

The 5.0L with TiVCT shouldn't give up power to the 5.4 3V anywhere on the curve, if it does it will be minimal and below 3000 rpm.

 

[bdcardinal]

Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
The 5.4 lives on (in 4V trim) in the Shelby. And the 3Vs haven't had spark plugs issues since build date 11/07.


I want a '11 GT500 so bad.

 

[Ben99GT]

Meeeeeee too

 

[mrsilv04]

I'm shocked.

The 5.4 wasn't loved... with the shooting spark plugs and start up knock and all?

 

[Ben99GT]

Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
The 5.4 wasn't loved... with the shooting spark plugs and start up knock and all?

5.3s have far more start up knock problems than the 5.4 ever did, but less torque.

 

[dwendt44]

Interesting oil coolers on those.

 

[Ben99GT]

Now they need to do a EcoBoost 5.0L Lightning.

 

[mrsilv04]

Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
The 5.4 wasn't loved... with the shooting spark plugs and start up knock and all?

5.3s have far more start up knock problems than the 5.4 ever did, but less torque.

There's nothing the "Are you sure it has oil in it?" start up hammering with the 5.4.

But thanks anyway. Despite your feeble attempt at deflection, we all see how well the 5.4 worked out for Ford.

When will I ever come to the realization that in the eyes of many, Ford has never once made a mistake?

 

[Ben99GT]

Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
There's nothing the "Are you sure it has oil in it?" start up hammering with the 5.4.


http://www.pistonslap.com/

Simply put, you are way off base. "Start up knocking" 5.4s are few and far between, comparatively speaking.

But yeah, that 5.4 was a real failure. http://www.millionmilevan.com/

 

[mrsilv04]

Start up banging on two F-150's, one a 2004 and one a 2005... that just happened to be randomly sitting side by side in a parking lot?

Yeah... that's truly few and far between. Problem was, they were about 5 foot apart, actually.

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Again, I completely understand that you don't think that Ford has ever made any mistakes... there's absolutely no need to convince me otherwise.

 

[Ben99GT]

Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
On two F-150's, one a 2004 and one a 2005... that just happened to be randomly sitting side by side in a parking lot?

Yeah... that's truly few and far between. Problem was, they were about 5 foot apart, actually.


Do you often find pots of gold at the end of rainbows or see lightning strike in the same place twice?

The GM Gen III V8 is so "start up knock" free there is a website dedicated to the problem. Go figure.

http://www.pistonslap.com/

 

[mrsilv04]

Again Ben, I completely understand that you don't think that Ford has ever made any mistakes... so there's absolutely no need to convince me otherwise.


By the way, where's your 5.4?