Smallest spin-on bypass?

[deeter16317]

What's the smallest, commonly available, spin-on bypass filter? I'm not interested in the EaBPs, but rather the Fleetguard/Baldwin/Wix alternatives.

I'm thinking I'm dropping the GCF because of the shear volume it holds...getting old changing 1.5 gallons of oil in a normal sump that holds 3 gallons (4.5 with the GCF)...

I may actually drop my bypass altogether, and revert back to 5k OCIs and dino oil.

 

[lazaro]

do ou take used oil smaples? it may help extend your filter swaps and having to add so much oil.
I use bypass filters and the seem to last about 40/50,000 miles.
I get my moneys worth fosure

 

[deeter16317]

I do take UOAs once in a while, but that in itself is also counterproductive if your intent is to save money in the long run...

My GFC has a 10k FCI, that's the reason I change on 10k intervals...

 

[lazaro]

Originally Posted By: deeter16317
I do take UOAs once in a while, but that in itself is also counterproductive if your intent is to save money in the long run...

My GFC has a 10k FCI, that's the reason I change on 10k intervals...


what are the reusults of the oil sample? under many situations the oil is still good for continued use, but still many change anyway.
that makes no sense to me.

 

[deeter16317]

Until now, oil results looked good...

But I have since changed from that oil, which was sort of working, to Schaeffers S9000 CJ-4, which I was going to pull a sample of tonight. It would be my first opportunity to see how it was performing.

 

[lazaro]

Originally Posted By: deeter16317
Until now, oil results looked good...

But I have since changed from that oil, which was sort of working, to Schaeffers S9000 CJ-4, which I was going to pull a sample of tonight. It would be my first opportunity to see how it was performing.


I dont know what you actually want from your lube system but here is My first sample with bypass and 5w30 oil with 5 years service and no change http://www.voogru.com/images/oil2.jpg

 

[Gary Allan]

Quote:
I'm not interested in the EaBPs, but rather the Fleetguard/Baldwin/Wix alternatives.


Here's everything that the Donaldson attribute search puked out. You're not going to find too many mounts for the oddball threads.

P550050

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 3.81
B - Thread Size (Inches) 5/8 - 18 UNF-2B
C - Length (Inches) 5.22
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.82
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application CAT, AMC, MF, ALLIS 74512207
Product Group F


P550154

LUBE SPIN-ON

A - OD (Inches) 3.73
B - Thread Size (Inches) 5/8" - 18
C - Length (Inches) 4.31
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.83
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.46
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application IHC 538836R1
Product Group F


P550242

ELEMENT, LUBE SPIN-ON

A - OD (Inches) 3.7
B - Thread Size (Inches) M18 X 1.5
C - Length (Inches) 3.72
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.46
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.2
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 8-11
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application MITSUBISHI ME014838
Product Group F


P550412

LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS

A - OD (Inches) 3.64
B - Thread Size (Inches) M20 X 1.5
C - Length (Inches) 4.92
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 3.43
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application MAZDA SL5014V61
Product Group F


P550512

LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS

A - OD (Inches) 5.33
B - Thread Size (Inches) M36 X 1.5
C - Length (Inches) 12.2
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 4.31
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 3.92
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 31-38
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application DETROIT DIESEL 5241840301
Product Group F


P550777

SPIN ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 4.65
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1 3/8-16
C - Length (Inches) 10.24
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 4.32
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 3.85
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application CUMMINS 330432, 3313289
Product Group F


P551343

LUBE SPIN-ON ELEMENT

A - OD (Inches) 4.02
B - Thread Size (Inches) M26 X 1.5
C - Length (Inches) 5.31
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.87
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 1.77
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 12-16
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application MITSUBISHI MD069782
Product Group F


P552363

LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS

A - OD (Inches) 3.694
B - Thread Size (Inches) 3/4-20
C - Length (Inches) 5.434
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.834
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.462
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application Thermo King 116228
Product Group F


P552404

LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS

A - OD (Inches) 3.789
B - Thread Size (Inches) 2 3/4-4
C - Length (Inches) 6.017
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application Oliver 100126ASA;
Primary Application 2 White 1LA5507
Product Group F


P552451

LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS

A - OD (Inches) 3.5312
B - Thread Size (Inches) 2 3/4-5 1/2
C - Length (Inches) 4.843
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application Wisconsin RV40
Product Group F


P553404

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 3.81
B - Thread Size (Inches) 5/8" - 18
C - Length (Inches) 7.91
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.82
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application CARRIER TRANSICOLD 30.00304.00
Product Group F


P553746

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 4.28
B - Thread Size (Inches) 3/4-20
C - Length (Inches) 7.89
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.83
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.45
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application THERMO KING 11.3746
Product Group F

Wix

24750 Lube Filter Conversion Kits By-Pass Filter For Small Gas And Diesel Engines Small engine equipped with cartridge type by-pass filters can be converted to the convenience of a spin-on with this kit. The kit may also be used to add-on supplemental by-pass filtration to provide increased engine protection. A choice of three different sized filters are available.

24750
UPC Number: 765809247505
Principal Application: Conversion Base to Convert 51750 Series Filters to 51749 Spin-on Filters
All Applications
Style: Filter Mounting Base
Service: Base
Note: Lube Filter Conversion Kits By-Pass Filter For Small Gas And Diesel Engines

Small engine equipped with cartridge type by-pass filters can be converted to the convenience of a spin-on with this kit. The kit may also be used to add-on supplemental by-pass filtration to provide increased engine protection. A choice of three different sized filters are available.



24755 Lube Filter Conversion Kits By-Pass Filter For Small Gas And Diesel Engines Large Gas and Diesel engine equipped with cartridge type by-pass filters can be converted to the convenience of a spin-on with this kit. The kit may also be used to add-on supplemental by-pass filtration to provide increased engine protection. A choice of three different sized filters are available.

24755
UPC Number: 765809247550
Principal Application: By-Pass Filter Base to Add Spin-on By-Pass Filter on Small Gas and Diesel Engines. (51050, 51051 or 51320 May be Used)
All Applications
Style: Filter Mounting Base
Service: Base
Note: Lube Filter Conversion Kits By-Pass Filter For Small Gas And Diesel Engines

Large Gas and Diesel engine equipped with cartridge type by-pass filters can be converted to the convenience of a spin-on with this kit. The kit may also be used to add-on supplemental by-pass filtration to provide increased engine protection. A choice of three different sized filters are available

I think the smallest from Wix would be in the FL1A size. Donaldson appears to have some smaller ..but you may find a thread that you don't like.

 

[deeter16317]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan

P550777

SPIN ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 4.65
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1 3/8-16
C - Length (Inches) 10.24
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 4.32
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 3.85
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON BYPASS
Primary Application CUMMINS 330432, 3313289
Product Group F



24750
UPC Number: 765809247505
Principal Application: Conversion Base to Convert 51750 Series Filters to 51749 Spin-on Filters
All Applications
Style: Filter Mounting Base
Service: Base
Note: Lube Filter Conversion Kits By-Pass Filter For Small Gas And Diesel Engines

Small engine equipped with cartridge type by-pass filters can be converted to the convenience of a spin-on with this kit. The kit may also be used to add-on supplemental by-pass filtration to provide increased engine protection. A choice of three different sized filters are available.




This looks interesting, but the beta ratio of the Wix is 2/10=19/31, nominal 5u...which doesn't make any sense at all to me...how can you have a 50% rating of 19u and call it nominal at 5u???

Any idea on the rating of that Donaldson??

 

[Gary Allan]

I can't tell you what the Donaldson rating is. If it was a hydraulic filter, it would probably be listed.

The way you get the 5um nominal is at the single pass test at (probably - my speculation) the 1.75gpm flow rate. The multipass test is conducted under the ISO or SAE protocol which probably has a much higher flow rate somewhere in there.

If I managed the attribute search correctly, there is no SYNTEQ bypass filters. The Donaldson Endurance line appears to be full flows. Again, I could have blown the search.

 

[widman]

The other trick is just go synthetic. some of the Synthetic or Endurance filters are better than many bypass filters. Endurance are typically synthetic plus time capsule additives and things for longer drains.