Sirius stinks..

[Bror Jace]

cuz', if I were you, I might get the service but right now, I'm with GROUCHO.

All these things are nickel & diming us to death. I'll stick with 'free' radio, thank you very much.

--- Bror Jace

 

[TheTanSedan]

"Someday, someone has to tell me the compelling need for a remote to control something literally within arms reach."

The wife's LexYota has s-w mounted controls for the sound system, and I have revised my once-similar opinion as to "remotes". True, I don't want the bill to fix that thing should it break, but in running up and down the highway I don't have to check the mirrors and waaaay on down the road ahead of me before I break concentration.

I guess that would be better described as attention-at-depth.

And I don't mean looking away from the road to the radio.

Glad to hear ya'll's experience per fidelity on SIRIUS.

 

[XS650]

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Originally posted by TheTanSedan:


The wife's LexYota has s-w mounted controls for the sound system, and I have revised my once-similar opinion as to "remotes". True, I don't want the bill to fix that thing should it break, but in running up and down the highway I don't have to check the mirrors and waaaay on down the road ahead of me before I break concentration.

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I can't speak for the Lexyota, but the GM radio controls in the steering wheel are simple. The switches just switch in different value resistors and the resistors are read by the data bus in the car. The switches add little complication or expense, no comment on the data bu$, but the data bus is in some (many?) GM cars that don't even have the steering wheel switches.

The GM system is a simple 1 wire plus ground circuit, no more exotic than a horn circuit. Just one more DC circuit from he wheel to the dash wiring harness.

 

[brianl703]

There's a circuit that measures the resistance and translates it into commands which are sent over the data bus.

GM vehicles have been coming with a data bus of some sort for at least 20 years. Even the carbureted modules with the "Computer Command Control" have the ALDL (assembly line data link) through which operating parameters (including fuel trim, aka block learn) can be read with a scantool.

 

[ToyotaNSaturn]

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Originally posted by TheTanSedan:
"Someday, someone has to tell me the compelling need for a remote to control something literally within arms reach."

The wife's LexYota has s-w mounted controls for the sound system, and I have revised my once-similar opinion as to "remotes".

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My opinion has similarly changed. I laughed when I saw that the Kenwood heat unit came with a remote. It was placed in it's "remote coffin" and then ushered into the glovebox to never be heard from again. Or so I thought.

My XM Roady-2 came with a remote. The FIRST time I tried it, it's advantages instantly came into light...don't have to look away to change stations. Also, it doesn't matter where the radio is mounted/positioned, the remote works all the same. Beauty, eh?

 

[XS650]

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Originally posted by brianl703:
There's a circuit that measures the resistance and translates it into commands which are sent over the data bus.

GM vehicles have been coming with a data bus of some sort for at least 20 years.

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I was referring to the GM Class II data bus that is fairly recent but didn't want to get too technical.

Sirius has come out with a receiver that talks to the GM class II bus so you can get rid of XM and use Sirius through the GM head unit with full Sirius info display on the GM head unit. Or Nav display in my case.

 

[blupupher]

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Originally posted by GROUCHO MARX:
Well, one thing can be said. Satellite radio provides another recurring payment each month.

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Not if you get a lifetime subscription. I have no issues with either of my Sirius systems. Mine is hooked directly to my Kenwood receiver and the other is the OEM from Dodge. Both sound the same as Fm or CD (music wise that is, voice only stations are sometimes tinny sounding).
I thought the same that I would never pay for radio, but after I heard it (for free in my wife's van) I decided it was worth the expense. I drive over an hr each way for work and school, so I am in my car at least 10 hrs a week, it is amazing how fast you get used to no commercials.

 

[ScottB]

I get 'em both, but I don't have to pay

Scott

 

[brianl703]

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Originally posted by XS650:
Sirius has come out with a receiver that talks to the GM class II bus so you can get rid of XM and use Sirius through the GM head unit with full Sirius info display on the GM head unit. Or Nav display in my case.

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Delphi makes a Sirius receiver that goes along with the commercial/truck head units they make. I found both for sale on Ebay and won the auction. It has weatherband. It's a standard single-DIN size head unit, so it fits in anything. I put it in my car.

I have a suspicion that the Delphi Sirius (they also make an XM one) receiver for their truck headunits uses the Class II bus to communicate with the headunit--which would mean that it would likely work fine with a GM headunit.

The CD changers for the truck headunits are apparently identical to the ones for GM headunits, and they also use the Class II bus.

 

[XS650]

That was interesting stuff about the Delphi/Sirius receivers.

Thanks

 

[JHZR2]

I just resubscribed to Sirius... I love it.

Sometimes the signal isnt perfect, but at these points, there is no sound... the sound quality all of the other times seem to be consistent. Sound quality may not be as good as CD, but its better than strong FM, even when I use a cassette adapter.

I drive a LOT. The ability to select music stations and not have to change for commercials is GREAT. I leave what I want on, until I get tired of it. Lately Ive ben listening to Howard Stern a lot, and the show is great.

Im really happy with it, sorry youve not had such an experience.

JMH

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

"Not if you get a lifetime subscription."
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Then may you live long and prosper.

 

[Dan4510]

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Originally posted by ScottB:
I get 'em both, but I don't have to pay

Scott

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Freerider, i thought so.

Dan

 

[ScottB]

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Originally posted by Dan4510:

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Originally posted by ScottB:
I get 'em both, but I don't have to pay

Scott

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Freerider, i thought so.

Dan

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And do tell Danno - wth does that mean?
Don't you have something better to do, like plant flowers in front of the wheels of your home?

 

[Bret Chase]

my coworker has a lifetime sub to sirius.. I think I'll just cough up the $13 a month for now. his audiovox radio/boombox does have much better sound quality than my xact unit does. I may buy the JVC sirius receiver that plugs into the back of my JVC cd player. having a seperate sat unit is a bit clunky, IMHO.

 

[sxg6]

Well if anyone wants a mint Sirius starmate st2, pretty much everything included except antenna tail.. I'm willing to let it go very cheap, ill probably put it on ebay within the next few days.

 

[blupupher]

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Originally posted by GROUCHO MARX:
"Not if you get a lifetime subscription."
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Then may you live long and prosper.

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It cost just a little more than a 4 yr contract, so I figured why not.