Simmons Beautyrest World Class Mattress

[The Critic]

I just ordered a Simmons Beautyrest Recharge World Class Luxury Firm mattress in the Queen size. The price was $699, which was a lot cheaper than the typical "sale" that I have seen.

While I normally post here before ordering, I am not sure when the special expires…but I do have 48 hours to cancel.

During my research, I read that some individuals were dissatisfied with the pillow top versions due to wear -- so I avoided those. Other than that, the feedback I found was pretty average.

So…

1) Does anyone have experience with this particular mattress?
2) Do I really need a box-spring? I paid an extra $149 for a low-profile box-spring.

Thanks in advance.

 

[mrsilv04]

Is it a two-sided (flippable) mattress?

Or is it only designed to be slept on one side, which is how the majority of the mattresses are designed anymore.

 

[jimbrewer]

I think we have one of those. The pillow top thing wears out fairly quickly and you end up with a rock hard mattress.

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: jimbrewer
I think we have one of those. The pillow top thing wears out fairly quickly and you end up with a rock hard mattress.


That is good to know -- thanks. Glad that I opted for the regular version which does not have the pillow top.

 

[Tom NJ]

I've had Simmons Beautyrest beds for nearly 30 years and love them. I believe the individually wrapped coil construction makes a big difference in comfort. As I understand it, Beautyrest only has two or three mattresses but many different toppings and model names (marketing).

I recently helped a friend select a bed and had the chance to lay on over a dozen different brands of beds, and again Beautyrest came out easily on top. A box spring is considered essential.

Tom NJ

 

[skyactiv]

I bought a new mattress a few years ago.

The most comfortable innerspring mattress to me was a Simmons.
The particular mattress I liked the best is the same as the Westin Hotel "Westin Heavenly bed". It wasn't the cheapest nor the most expensive Simmons mattress. The salesman said it had the lowest return rate of any bed in the store.

http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/westin-heavenly-bed-ordering-the-heavenly-bed?origin=leftnav

Got a Sterns And Foster to make the wife happy.

The worst mattress I bought sagged in short order. The company acronym is OMF. It was flippable.

 

[y_p_w]

Originally Posted By: Tom NJ
I've had Simmons Beautyrest beds for nearly 30 years and love them. I believe the individually wrapped coil construction makes a big difference in comfort. As I understand it, Beautyrest only has two or three mattresses but many different toppings and model names (marketing).

It's far more complicated than that. Mattresses sold at most major or regional retailers are essentially custom made to the retailers specs and assembled individually. There are many combinations of fabrics, spring count, mattress thickness, etc. It's impossible to price match because there will be some difference. Some mattresses are available at regional warehouses, but they're often made after they're ordered. We got a Simmons Beautyrest mattress a few years back. Delivery was scheduled for two days after we bought it. The production date on the tag was the day before we received it - made at the Simmons factory in San Leandro, California.

I think Costco and Sam's Club are different because of their business model, which doesn't typically include delivery.

Here's the description from Serta:

Quote:
http://www.serta.com/mattress-guide/custom-made-to-order

Serta is a “Just in Time” manufacturer, meaning that we only produce mattresses and foundations ordered by our retailers or hotel partners. Every Serta mattress is made by hand at one of our manufacturing plants in the United States, and then put through our strict quality control testing to make sure every Serta product that leaves our factory meets our high quality standards. This process allows Serta to produce a wide variety of mattresses, with many custom mattresses made exclusively for our retail partners. This is why you may find custom mattresses with unique model names at your local Serta retailers.


Quite a while ago I got a mattress at a local factory sale. We actually visited a small showroom at the Spring Air factory in Union City, California where they had several models only made for this public sale. The factory floor wasn't operating on the weekend, but we could see the manufacturing floor with rolls of fabric, partially assembled springs/frames, etc. You could tell by looking in there that all the mattresses were essentially made to order.

 

[y_p_w]

Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Is it a two-sided (flippable) mattress?

Or is it only designed to be slept on one side, which is how the majority of the mattresses are designed anymore.

It's almost impossible to find a flippable mattress now, unless you find one designed specifically for hotel use. When Bain Capital bought out Sealy in 1997, someone there suggested it and their R&D dept worked on it. However, they didn't actually release them until Simmons (owned by Merrill Lynch) started selling them and doing well. I heard that Sealy initially ridiculed the no-flip mattress as something that was designed to reduce mattress life.

They could sell the "convenience" of a no-flip mattress, but they didn't note that it essentially reduced the life of a well-maintained mattress from 20 years to 7. It's also thinner and easier to turn around, as well as costing less to manufacture.

So it's was pretty much the private equity firms ownership of these mattress companies that led to the prevalence of no-flip mattresses.

 

[mrsilv04]

Originally Posted By: y_p_w
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Is it a two-sided (flippable) mattress?

Or is it only designed to be slept on one side, which is how the majority of the mattresses are designed anymore.

It's almost impossible to find a flippable mattress now, unless you find one designed specifically for hotel use.


Impossible? Not really. Just get away from the mass-produced single sided ones from Sealy, Serta, and Simmons first.

We have a local, family owned mattress factory that will make a mattress for YOU. All of their mattresses are two-sided. They'll make suggestions, and can customize it to what you want. You can watch them make it as well.

I've been sleeping on one of their supreme (15 year warranty) mattresses since the late 90's, and I paid a little over $539 for it. Today, they sell the same mattress for $679.

And the best part is, if you don't like it, they can modify it.

 

[The Critic]

After ordering the mattress this morning, I went to the local Sleep Train to confirm the comfort of the mattress. Luckily, the mattress felt even better than I had expected. I am also glad that I avoided the pillow top option since it made the mattress feel far too soft.

At Sleep Train, their equivalent model was the Beautyrest Pacific Series. The specs appeared to be identical to the one I ordered.

The best that Sleep Train could do was $1599…that's $900 more than what I paid!

 

[sleddriver]

I've been sleeping on the same BR now for about 12 yrs. It is a pillow-top. I can tell it has sagged a bit, but it's still quite comfortable. I do rotate it every few months, but it is non-flippable.

I don't use the 'box spring' because the mattress sits on a plywood foundation instead of an open steel frame.

I would definitely buy another!

 

[JHZR2]

Yeah pillow top is IMO a gimmick for selling beds. I do like the memory foam topper on a bed though. We may go for a foam mattress next time, though hopefully that will be a while.

Even with a good frame, beds sag in the centre or do funny things where you lay most often. Flippability is IMO important to ensure that the loads can be balanced out.

Not sure what the point of the box spring is myself... Other than to bring the mattress up in height some. Problem with queen mattresses, even with low profile box springs is that sometimes they are too big to get up some stairways. We have a king bed and the boxspring is actually two twins, though the mattress is one piece.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Anyone have a Tempurpedic? We`d thought about a pillow top as well.

 

[TooManyWheels]

We have a Sears mattress which we understand to be a relabled Simmons. It is incredibly comfortable to both of us. We also have or have had Serta (not great) and Stearns and Foster (very, very good) but we probably like the Simmons the best.

 

[levi]

Would love to know the name of the company you mentioned, mrsilv04. We're thinking of replacing a mattress or two pretty soon. Might be worth our while to talk to them. We're not THAT far away, I don't think.

Thanks.

 

[PandaBear]

Smart call to stay away from the pillow top, they are junk that should be avoided even if you have to pay for it.

BeautyRest is not bad if you pick what fits your budget and comfort. And no, you won't find 2 sided mattresses unless you go specialty low volume (and a lot more) these days unless you order from far away and ship to you with no warranty (they won't take it back for such a long distance).

IMO if you look at the spring count and compare it against another similar spring count and padding mattress, you'll get an idea of how it feel and compare that way. You can always order some padding and put on top on your own (with a thick bed sheet to spread out the load) to mimic the pillow top feel, and you can replace the padding much easier that way.

Box spring or not depends on what kind of bed you have.

As Critic is not yet married or moved in with a significant other, it just doesn't make sense to pay top dollar to buy a queen size mattress right now. If you get a house later and decide to move to a king, that's the time to buy a better one and sell the existing one on craigslist.

 

[The Critic]

The mattress arrived today. It was produced last week at the local Simmons factory. For the delivery, Us-Mattress contracted to a local firm.

Everything worked out as promised. The mattress was nearly identical to the one that I tried in person at Sleep Train.

Overall, I highly recommend US-Mattress to anyone who's interested in saving a lot of $$ provided that you have tried out the mattress in-person.