Silverado engine problem

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Hi group! I found this site a few months ago in my search for the "perfect" oil and oil filter combination.
I took my 07 Silverado truck into the dealer with 72k miles because I had a knocking noise coming from the engine.
After they took the engine apart, they ended up replacing the lifters and push rods. They also told me that I had an excessive amount of sludge buildup. My trucks first oil change was with Amsoil 5w30 and has been since. I don't pay too much attention to what dealer mechanics say, only because I don't believe them most of the time.
I have been reading about the GM piston slap problem and I even questioned them about it, but they didn't think that was the case here. That though seems to be a stock answer that GM tells them to say to everyone with this problem though.
Thankfully, all this work was covered under warranty too. I was asked about oil changes and I told them that I changed it when the "change oil" light comes on. That satisfied them (I lied) and they told me to go back to petroleum based oil and start changing every 3k miles now.
They said most trucks that run on synthetics have the most engine problems that they see. Again, I don't believe in too much of what they say, but it has got me thinking though.

What do you guys think?
I do mostly freeway travel. 34 miles one way to work and of that, 5 miles are on streets, 29 miles are on the freeway and I typically travel 70-80 mph.
 
While many mechanics, both dealer and independent, may be good at what they do, most of them know nothing about oil.
Originally Posted By: markhait

They said most trucks that run on synthetics have the most engine problems that they see.
Yeah. Right.

"Synthetic oil is bad for trucks." Quick, someone tell Pennzoil, Valvoline, and Mobil about this...they'll want to re-write all their advertising copy as soon as possible.
 
Originally Posted By: rshunter
Originally Posted By: exranger06
How often were you changing the Amsoil?

This is the $64K question...


I wonder the same thing as that info was left out.
 
How long is your OCI's on the Amsoil?

It seems GM engines tend to develop ticks, rattles, and other annoyances at an early age.

My dad had a 305 in a Chevy van that developed a knock at around 80k. It went another 80k before the junker hualed it away.

When these GM engine topics come up, I always recall a conversation I had with a long-time Chevy salesman buddy of mine. He'd tell me cars/trucks would always be coming through service dept with odd noises. Often they'd just be sent on their merry way with a diagnosis of nothing really wrong, normal for miles/wear, etc...

He said he'd see these same vehicles eventually come in on trades, way down the road with lots more miles on 'em.

Ya' know the saying- GM's run longer bad than most others run at all!!! LOL
 
Glad to see the motor issue was covered under the warranty. But some much needed info is missing. Did you buy the truck new and if yes what were your oci's with Amsoil. There is now way this oil contributed to the motor issue. The dealer statement that synthetic is bad is just crazy. If there was sludge you must not ever changed your oil or had a coolant leak or bad pcv issue. Tell us the history of the truck and maybe we could help figure out what happened. As far as the dealer they know squat about oil and I would worry about how they put the motor back together with that attitude. Amsoil is a top oil.
 
Originally Posted By: Jehartley
Originally Posted By: blsnelling
GM fixed the piston slap problems in model years 2004-2005.


No, they didn't.


Really? By checking your signature are you having problems with your 4.8? This is something that I have not heard about.
 
The truck was brand new when i bought it.
I did the first oil change at 3k miles. I used Amsoil 5w30 and
a Amsoil extended drain oil filter. The oil was the extended drain too. I changed oil and oil filter at 24k miles later and continued this process until my last change this past July. The reason I thought about piston slap was that since July, I've added 3 quarts of oil. It seems to go through a quart/month now. The sludge buildup really has me bothered too. I followed Amsoil recommendations for the extended oil drains and yet I have sludge buildup. Not quite sure whats going on, but it breaks my heart to have my truck at less than optimal!
 
Originally Posted By: markhait
The truck was brand new when i bought it.
I did the first oil change at 3k miles. I used Amsoil 5w30 and
a Amsoil extended drain oil filter. The oil was the extended drain too. I changed oil and oil filter at 24k miles later and continued this process until my last change this past July. The reason I thought about piston slap was that since July, I've added 3 quarts of oil. It seems to go through a quart/month now. The sludge buildup really has me bothered too. I followed Amsoil recommendations for the extended oil drains and yet I have sludge buildup. Not quite sure whats going on, but it breaks my heart to have my truck at less than optimal!


So you've been doing 24,000 mile change intervals? I assume you've never had an oil analysis done? Were any of these change intervals longer than a year?
 
No, I've never had a oil analysis done and no, I've never gone longer than a year. I'd say that typically I'd go about 3 weeks short of a year for the next oil change.
 
Originally Posted By: markhait
No, I've never had a oil analysis done and no, I've never gone longer than a year. I'd say that typically I'd go about 3 weeks short of a year for the next oil change.


Well, I will say that the mechanic is on glue. The Corvette is factory-filled with Synthetic, LOL
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But besides that, when is the last time you took a look at your PCV system? Is the engine reaching proper operating temperature?

These are both issues that can lead to sludge build-up, no matter what oil is in the sump.

I'm not sure how "extended drain friendly" your particular engine is. Which is why an oil analysis with TBN/TAN would be very useful here.
 
Originally Posted By: bigdawg74
So your truck has 72k miles on it, and you have changed the oil only four times??
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Com' on, let take it easy on the guy. All details aren't known, yet.

As has been proven by used oil analysis, certain vehicles, driven under certain circumstances, and using proper oil/filter can achieve 20k+ OCI's with no harm to anything(while benefitting ones wallet).

This guy used quality oil and filter that's advertised as extended drain, so it's not like he put 24k on some weak dino.

Was oil level was checked/topped off regularly? Looks like he put on a lot of highway miles so short tripping and lack of oil warm-up would seem not to be an issue.

Plus, aren't SBC's supposedly easy on oil?


Edit: Did you tell the dealer about your OCI? Just curious if they warrantied the work even with having that knowledge.
 
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why didnt you just use a cheap dino or basic synthetic and follow the olm? there may be sludge, not saying amsoil is bad but I personally would never go that long w/o a used oil analysis. There are problems that may develop (that are not the oils fault) that can sludge them. Coolant, pcv, short trips, etc...
 
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