Should I DARE? Used TGMO in my beater?

[SumpChump]

So after my wife flooded the dickens our 2013 Camry by running it for just 40-60seconds at about 10-20F stone cold and shutting it off super rich, and after the ensuing hours of near frostbite fun.... I decided just to be waaaay safe and dump the 0W-20 TGMO with about 1k miles on it and teplace it with the Mobil AFE 0W-20. The oil was somewhat gassy but hey arent all oils gassy smelling after 1k in winter lol.

So wife's happy now that the "flooding fiasco" is behind us completely.

And i have just about 5quarts of pricey and slightly gassy TGMO "unicorn tears" on hand.

So do i run the stuff in my beater coked-oil-return-hole-oil-drinker 2008 Scion xB with a brand new OEM pcv valve that has had no helpful effect, motor with 140k? My gut says yes.

 

[SatinSilver]

Yes, by all means run that oil in the beater. I would. Have 0w20 in the 05 Matrix right now with 9k miles on the oci. Will change it soon with some 5w30 Mobil 5000.

 

[Uregina09]

I suppose you made your wife feel bad about the "flooding fiasco" and then changed the oil? Now I've officially heard everything.

 

[SumpChump]

Originally Posted By: Uregina09
I suppose you made your wife feel bad about the "flooding fiasco" and then changed the oil? Now I've officially heard everything.


Why would you even say that? Thats sick to insinuate that. Are you sure you arent a former NewYorker? Usually most Canadians are alot more relaxed.

Actually I laughed with a sigh of releif when all was said and done. Was it a tough cold day?...sure. Has ther been worse?...yep. 1986...-15F transmission swap in a 78 monte Carlo.

 

[Ramblejam]

2AZ-FE? Sure, but man will it drink TGMO. Don't come back here and complain one day when your wife runs it out of oil.

 

[Uregina09]

Because you talked about how happy she was to put the fiasco behind her and you then changed the oil. Reads like a major over-reaction. Good to clarify that you said it in jest.

 

[SumpChump]

Originally Posted By: Uregina09
Because you talked about how happy she was to put the fiasco behind her and you then changed the oil. Reads like a major over-reaction. Good to clarify that you said it in jest.


Yep, she felt bad enough on her own. And my above comments were in jest also. I love Canada, I really do. 2.5 people per square mile, health care, English, a great emergency option for us Yanks if the ever the government boxcars start lining up to take us for "reeducation".

 

[nascarnation]

Here's a story about a guy I used to work with in the 70s.
He would ask his friends to save their drain oil so he could use it in his vehicles.

He had a total of 7 (this includes old tractors, etc), and the best of them would be considered a "beater".
And he had ONE 12v battery that he swapped into whatever he wanted to drive/operate that day.

 

[Linctex]

Originally Posted By: SumpChump

So do i run the stuff in my beater coked-oil-return-hole-oil-drinker 2008 Scion xB with a brand new OEM pcv valve that has had no helpful effect, motor with 140k? My gut says yes.


Sure...... but how hard is it to run a coat hanger wire down through this "coked-oil-return-hole-oil"?

 

[SumpChump]

Originally Posted By: Ramblejam
2AZ-FE? Sure, but man will it drink TGMO. Don't come back here and complain one day when your wife runs it out of oil.

No worries, its my daily driver now after my '13 Corolla got destroyed and I got stainless staples in my scalp a year ago. I keep a close eye on the level. Kind of an experiment.

 

[Linctex]

Originally Posted By: Linctex


Sure...... but how hard is it to run a coat hanger wire down through this "coked-oil-return-hole-oil"?



Ahhhhh..... just read online it is the "oil return holes in the pistons".
Eeeesh.... no easy way to fix those if plugged.

 

[FlyNavyP3]

I'd run it as make up or as a full fill either one. No worries there. Might as well get some use out of it after all.

 

[SumpChump]

Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: SumpChump

So do i run the stuff in my beater coked-oil-return-hole-oil-drinker 2008 Scion xB with a brand new OEM pcv valve that has had no helpful effect, motor with 140k? My gut says yes.


Sure...... but how hard is it to run a coat hanger wire down through this "coked-oil-return-hole-oil"?


It the holes in the piston behind the oil rings. They have a tsb but she doesnt burn quite enough (1full quart per 1100miles) especially when on new oil not sheared down, to qualify for free pistons. And even then the typical other stuff one would have done such as valve job/seals/water pump/idler pully is not covered so its about a grand more of one's own expense.

 

[mclasser]

Originally Posted By: SumpChump
So after my wife flooded the dickens our 2013 Camry by running it for just 40-60seconds at about 10-20F stone cold and shutting it off super rich, and after the ensuing hours of near frostbite fun.... I decided just to be waaaay safe and dump the 0W-20 TGMO with about 1k miles on it and teplace it with the Mobil AFE 0W-20. The oil was somewhat gassy but hey arent all oils gassy smelling after 1k in winter lol.

Wow, now I've heard it all. What a waste of perfectly good oil. If I followed this approach, I'd be doing an oil change every week in the winter when I start my car for 30 seconds to move it from the curb onto the driveway.

 

[nascarnation]

The Saturn 1.9s had this same issue, although it was because there were no holes behind the oil rings at all, they had some minimal cast slots instead.

Using the old formula Green Castrol 0W30 from Germany "fixed" my Saturn, at least most of the problem.
Not sure if there are any oils today that are equivalent or not.

 

[SumpChump]

Originally Posted By: mclasser
Originally Posted By: SumpChump
So after my wife flooded the dickens our 2013 Camry by running it for just 40-60seconds at about 10-20F stone cold and shutting it off super rich, and after the ensuing hours of near frostbite fun.... I decided just to be waaaay safe and dump the 0W-20 TGMO with about 1k miles on it and teplace it with the Mobil AFE 0W-20. The oil was somewhat gassy but hey arent all oils gassy smelling after 1k in winter lol.

Wow, now I've heard it all. What a waste of perfectly good oil. If I followed this approach, I'd be doing an oil change every week in the winter when I start my car for 30 seconds to move it from the curb onto the driveway.

I know it was likely a waste but it was flooded bad and I figured I'd give the beater a treat of TGMO to drink while giving her and I peace of mind. I am never found in casinos or playing the lottery, and I get 25 years out if my carpet and my blue jeans.

 

[Bluestream]

Put the oil in a pot on the stove, and bring to a boil. After about 2 hours, all un-wanted moisture and fuel would be evaporated. Then it can be safety used again...

 

[dlundblad]

How do you catch used oil? My oil catch container isn't exactly "clean" (has metal shavings, coolant, gear oil, grease, nuts/ bolts etc.

I've reused some PYB. Since it was on tall ramps, I had room for the upright container with a large funnel. Oil literally maybe had 10 miles on it. Came out of a 240z dad and I wanted to run 15w40 in. I ran it in some push mowers. 1 consumes oil rather fast.

Even though the container was clean, any oil that contacted the pan was enough for me to not want to use in an a car. JMO. Oil is cheap..

*Theoretically, if the oil could be perfectly transferred from 1 engine to the next, it should be fine.. considering the original engine actually was using the stuff. I just can't seem to make that clean/ OCD free transfer.

 

[HerrStig]

Throw it in your heating oil tank and watch the pretty flames in the burner.

 

[Linctex]

Originally Posted By: dlundblad
How do you catch used oil? My oil catch container isn't exactly "clean" (has metal shavings, coolant, gear oil, grease, nuts/ bolts etc.


Well, as you stated...... it's your fault.

Start off with a clean container for catchment, and you'll be light years ahead of the game. Get a paper paint strainer/filter from the local auto paint shop (they give 'em away for free) and that is clean enough to bottle it and let it settle.

*ALL* of my used oil gets re-purposed. I have one old Farmall tractor that doesn't get used enough to warrant "new" oil, so it gets the 15w40 from my other tractor that gets it's oil changed at 100 hrs (about once a year). Even well-used oil today is better than the oil you could buy in 1941 when the tractor was built.

Some "clean" used oil is added to diesel fuel for my older diesel engines that have serious difficulties digesting ULSD fuel.

Some is used as "bar/chain" oil.

Occasionally... I'll do a free oil change on a low-income family owned vehicle that hasn't had an oil change in several years. I'll put in the best "used" oil I have and tell them to come back in a month or two to let it clean the engine up. Why not, since it really has plenty of service life left?
I'll then change it out for new oil.