quote:No. Rotella T Syn is comprised of 70-80% XHVI with NO esters or PAO. Helix Ultra has about 10-20% XHVI with the rest of the base oil being PAO and esters. For purposes of comparing Rotella T Syn to Helix, it is more like Helix Plus than Helix Ultra. Helix Plus is primarily XHVI based.
Originally posted by TSoA: I've got $60 a quart, no problem.Isn't Rotella Synth the same basestock with more additives?
quote:Base stock depends on Helix Ultra grade (see links): http://www.shell-lubricants.com/products/products.php?c=2 http://www2.shell.com/home/se-sv/html/iwgen/produkterandtjanster/produkter/varuinformationsblad/smorjmedel/dir.htm http://www3.shell.no/op/hmschess/chess/html/grp_4/dir.htm In Europe retail prices of 0W-40 and 10W-60 are nearly equal and may vary from country to country: - E.Europe: $ 9,50-13,00/l - W.Europe: e 10,00-19,00/l and they are in line with those of Shell competitors. The highest price I saw was at Shell Gas Stations in Germany: e 19,00/l for any grade: 0W-40, 5W-30 5W-40, 10W-60. Given Distributors' wholesales prices in E.Europe 5W-40: $ 5,70-7,65 0W-40: $ 7,15-9,10 10W-60: $ 7,70-9,70 min. 15 % margin, 10 % Import Duty and 20 % VAT, I would suppose their price in the USA and Canada may be in the range of $ 9-11/l, if naturally Shell decides to supply 0W-40 and 10W-60 to your market. At least they should not exceed prices of Mobil1 0W-40 and Motul 8100 0W-40.
Originally posted by G-Man II: Helix Ultra uses a mix of PAO, esters, and XHVI (Shell's proprietary Group III wax isomerate). You can get it in North America at Ferrari dealers—just be prepared to pay anywhere from $20.00/qt (0w40) to $60.00/qt (10w60). These are the only two grades imported.
quote:That deserves a couple of these also...
Originally posted by Dr. T: Except the motor's $100k!!!![]()
quote:Believe 15W-50 is one of the best, but it is not available even in Spain with their hot climate. Everything is OK with 5W-30, contradictionary opinions on 0W-40, but as for 5W-40, given what I know about this stuff myself I would trust to Shell employee at gas station in Germany who, showing 5W-40, shortly said: "scheisse". Not really, but slightly above an average oil and worse then Helix Plus 10W-40. Think it was really good only in early 90th.
Originally posted by Doug Hillary: Hi, Shell Helix Ultra is an extremely good lubricant with a great reputation Shell have been manufacturing synthetics for a very long time - for engines and driveline My first use of their diff and gearbox synthetics occurred about 25 years ago I have used Helix Ultra for at least a decade in a variety of engines. From ride on mowers to a Porsche UOAs for this oil in my Porsche have been posted here four times I believe that Shell's XHVI base stocks are used by other oil makers too Regards
quote:John, I don't have the RL. I sold it. My wife's car is on Amsoil and I've used both Amsoil and M1 over the course of 138k miles. RL is expensive for me and I have a pref. customer rate with Amsoil so I wanted to take advantage of it. I'm going to start using just Amsoil/Mobil 1 in the future for cost and availability reasons and the fact they are very similar. I also think these might be better extended drain oils and this winter I really want to get away from changing it often. I still believe RL will prove to be a great oil. I do sometimes wish I tested in the Corolla bc the engine is very clean. Sorry.
buster, Do you have a quick link to A3 spec.? buster did you ever decide if you were going to keep the case of Redline you bought? I am asking out of selfish reasons really. I am trying to get as many people to try Redline as possable to get some data. I am especialy interested since it would be going in your trusty Corolla! Thanks! P.S. How does Redline 5W30 and Amsoil 5W30 compare in reguards to A3 spec.??