quote:No. Rotella T Syn is comprised of 70-80% XHVI with NO esters or PAO. Helix Ultra has about 10-20% XHVI with the rest of the base oil being PAO and esters. For purposes of comparing Rotella T Syn to Helix, it is more like Helix Plus than Helix Ultra. Helix Plus is primarily XHVI based.
Originally posted by TSoA: I've got $60 a quart, no problem. Isn't Rotella Synth the same basestock with more additives?
quote:Base stock depends on Helix Ultra grade (see links): http://www.shell-lubricants.com/products/products.php?c=2 http://www2.shell.com/home/se-sv/html/iwgen/produkterandtjanster/produkter/varuinformationsblad/smorjmedel/dir.htm http://www3.shell.no/op/hmschess/chess/html/grp_4/dir.htm In Europe retail prices of 0W-40 and 10W-60 are nearly equal and may vary from country to country: - E.Europe: $ 9,50-13,00/l - W.Europe: e 10,00-19,00/l and they are in line with those of Shell competitors. The highest price I saw was at Shell Gas Stations in Germany: e 19,00/l for any grade: 0W-40, 5W-30 5W-40, 10W-60. Given Distributors' wholesales prices in E.Europe 5W-40: $ 5,70-7,65 0W-40: $ 7,15-9,10 10W-60: $ 7,70-9,70 min. 15 % margin, 10 % Import Duty and 20 % VAT, I would suppose their price in the USA and Canada may be in the range of $ 9-11/l, if naturally Shell decides to supply 0W-40 and 10W-60 to your market. At least they should not exceed prices of Mobil1 0W-40 and Motul 8100 0W-40.
Originally posted by G-Man II: Helix Ultra uses a mix of PAO, esters, and XHVI (Shell's proprietary Group III wax isomerate). You can get it in North America at Ferrari dealers—just be prepared to pay anywhere from $20.00/qt (0w40) to $60.00/qt (10w60). These are the only two grades imported.
quote:That deserves a couple of these also...
Originally posted by Dr. T: Except the motor's $100k!!!
quote:Believe 15W-50 is one of the best, but it is not available even in Spain with their hot climate. Everything is OK with 5W-30, contradictionary opinions on 0W-40, but as for 5W-40, given what I know about this stuff myself I would trust to Shell employee at gas station in Germany who, showing 5W-40, shortly said: "scheisse". Not really, but slightly above an average oil and worse then Helix Plus 10W-40. Think it was really good only in early 90th.
Originally posted by Doug Hillary: Hi, Shell Helix Ultra is an extremely good lubricant with a great reputation Shell have been manufacturing synthetics for a very long time - for engines and driveline My first use of their diff and gearbox synthetics occurred about 25 years ago I have used Helix Ultra for at least a decade in a variety of engines. From ride on mowers to a Porsche UOAs for this oil in my Porsche have been posted here four times I believe that Shell's XHVI base stocks are used by other oil makers too Regards
quote:John, I don't have the RL. I sold it. My wife's car is on Amsoil and I've used both Amsoil and M1 over the course of 138k miles. RL is expensive for me and I have a pref. customer rate with Amsoil so I wanted to take advantage of it. I'm going to start using just Amsoil/Mobil 1 in the future for cost and availability reasons and the fact they are very similar. I also think these might be better extended drain oils and this winter I really want to get away from changing it often. I still believe RL will prove to be a great oil. I do sometimes wish I tested in the Corolla bc the engine is very clean. Sorry. Redline oils are not ACEA certified, but that doesn't mean anything. If any oils meet these specs., it's RL! Amsoil 5w-30 does meet the A3 spec.
buster, Do you have a quick link to A3 spec.? buster did you ever decide if you were going to keep the case of Redline you bought? I am asking out of selfish reasons really. I am trying to get as many people to try Redline as possable to get some data. I am especialy interested since it would be going in your trusty Corolla! Thanks! P.S. How does Redline 5W30 and Amsoil 5W30 compare in reguards to A3 spec.??