Setting up Tire Bead?

[maverickfhs]

Alright so after some technique and learning 2 tires are on the wheels, but now the bead isn't seating and I can hear air leaking.

I tried using a ratchet strap on the wheel. Also pushed lower bead all the way down, while pushing on the wheel from the top to increase the sealing area, but no luck.

Is there a special trick to it? Tire removed were 195/65/15 and they are being replaced with the same size too.

I rather avoid the fire method

Thanks for the help

 

[LotI]

Lube

 

[Chris142]

Take the core out of the stem. Shove your air hose on it with no chuck.

 

[Black_Thunder]

sometimes you'll need a friend to help air up the tire while you adjust/fiddle with the tire.

through experimenting sometimes with the tire sitting up and air to it, you can take a sledge hammer and hit the face of the tire and that jolt will cause the air in the tire to push the sidewalls out and seat the beads.

like anything else it works sometimes

all depends on how flexible the tire is and how wide the rim is

 

[CharBaby]

Originally Posted by Chris142
Take the core out of the stem. Shove your air hose on it with no chuck.


+1

Originally Posted by Black_Thunder
sometimes you'll need a friend to help air up the tire while you adjust/fiddle with the tire.


+1

 

[EricG]

Originally Posted by Char Baby
Originally Posted by Chris142
Take the core out of the stem. Shove your air hose on it with no chuck.


+1

Originally Posted by Black_Thunder
sometimes you'll need a friend to help air up the tire while you adjust/fiddle with the tire.


+1

And a gas powered leaf blower used like a "Cheeta" tank!

If you dont know what a Cheeta is!
https://www.amazon.com/TSI-Cheetah-Bead-Seating-Tool/dp/B000VNHWUM

 

[CapriRacer]

Because I've had trouble with this before, I've made some spacers that I put between the beads a couple of days BEFORE I mount it.

 

[Kestas]

Originally Posted by Chris142
Take the core out of the stem. Shove your air hose on it with no chuck.

+2

You need a fast volume of air to help the beads catch and hold the seat. Airing up with the valve stem core in place isn't going to do it.

 

[vwmaniaman]

Dawn dish detergent on the bead then take out the core and blast it with all you can.

 

[maverickfhs]

Thanks all, I have a small 5 gallon air compressor and I tried multiple times that thing and it didn't cut it.

I took it to some of these air fill places at gas station/costco yesterday, but don't think I can use them without the valve stem.

Will probably ask around

 

[chainblu]

Try setting the tire in the sun for a while. This has worked for me when putting old, age hardened tires on my 'yard cars'.

 

[Traction]

In your situation, I would just take them to a shop and be done with it in a couple minutes. Probably won't cost much, if anything.

 

[jjjxlr8]

air pressure and lube. How high did you inflate them? try going up to 50 psi.

 

[maverickfhs]

Originally Posted by jjjxlr8
air pressure and lube. How high did you inflate them? try going up to 50 psi.

Yeah I am going to use a lot of lube today and I used a small electric compressor to inflate them, I could hear air leaking out of side wall.

 

[jjjxlr8]

Originally Posted by maverickfhs
Originally Posted by jjjxlr8
air pressure and lube. How high did you inflate them? try going up to 50 psi.

Yeah I am going to use a lot of lube today and I used a small electric compressor to inflate them, I could hear air leaking out of side wall.
Yeah, that's most likely your problem. You need a higher pressure and a higher volume of air flow to push the tire such that it will seal enough to fully seat. You could buy an air tank and use your electric compressor to fill it up. The air tank should work better.

 

[Traction]

A tire bead blaster is still the best method, although you still have to be careful I've found out by accidently bumping the discharge valve and sending the tank across my garage. I had to pay over $300 for my Cheetah many years ago, and now there are knock-offs for only $65.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=tire+bea...mp;tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_ytae4t0j9_e

 

[maverickfhs]

Originally Posted by Traction
In your situation, I would just take them to a shop and be done with it in a couple minutes. Probably won't cost much, if anything.

No idea if anyone would be able to do it, but I'll check around.

Is there a way I can tweak valve core in a way that a commercial(gas station) air machine can work with it? Because it won't work if there's no core in the tire.

 

[maverickfhs]

2 tires are on the car now, almost there

 

[CapriRacer]

Originally Posted by maverickfhs
2 tires are on the car now, almost there

So what did you do?

 

[maverickfhs]

All 4 are installed and done, just used some bigger air source. Thanks all