Seems the old XG9972 is now the new Titanium filters which cost way more What are your thoughts on the new XG9972 on the right? I am not really impressed.
Based on what ?I am not really impressed.
Yes says 20k. I looked at Fram's website and the XG9972 is now FS9972 Titanium. The new ones are a tad bit shorter as well.The right one is simply a Champ XL w/Fram name on it. They rate them at 15,000 miles. Does the box say 20k?
No wire and media feels like paper. Nothing like the previous version so I will be returning them. Seems like all of them are going to the shorter smaller media.Is the one on the right wire backed? Or even spray-on synthetic? Looking like the First Brands race to the bottom continues… Hengst cartridges for me!
I'm thinking the Champ XL's might have gotten a synthetic media bump to increase their mileage rating to 20,000 miles from 15k. Interesting.Yes says 20k. I looked at Fram's website and the XG9972 is now FS9972 Titanium. The new ones are a tad bit shorter as well.
Wouldn’t synthetic media need to be wire backed? Or at least “sprayed on”?? Looks like neither!I'm thinking the Champ XL's might have gotten a synthetic media bump to increase their mileage rating to 20,000 miles from 15k. Interesting.
The 15k versions were just like a simple cellulose/synthetic blend media but this newer 20k version looks more "white" in color than the previous "yellowish" media. I've associated "white" to mean more synthetic media but I don't know. I've always been surprised how Champ rated their filters. They were not a premium looking filter but they rated them in mileage like they were LOL.Wouldn’t synthetic media need to be wire backed? Or at least “sprayed on”?? Looks like neither!
More like crapflation-not much better than a base Champ or Fram CH9972, for multiples more $.As long as it continues to filter well and not fail i can't complain. It's shrinkflation, same price lesser product but it's still better than oem at least.
This new version would be like a Fram CH9972 (10k) & Fram TG9972 (15k) had a baby. Not quite either or & not quite as nice looking like a Tough Guard. But they are rated for higher mileage than these filters (20k). In short it's a downgrade.More like crapflation-not much better than a base Champ or Fram CH9972, for multiples more $.