Schaeffers All-Trans fluid has been updated

[denny2w]

This may be old news to some but...

Today I opened my new case of All-Trans Supreme 204 Schaeffer’s
The first thing I noted was a different label from my 2 year old bottles. The words "semi synthetic" have been removed and "Full Synthetic" has taken its place.

Nissan Matic-J has now been added to the Nissan Matic-D recommended ATF list.

These may not be the only changes but the ones that effect me as I own a 350z which calls out the hard to find "Matic-J"

Other owners of 350z, G-35 etc may find this helpful in the search for transmission fluid...

 

[BoiseRob]

Schaeffer's 204SAT also has a VI of 196. That's 28 points higher than Castrol Transynd's VI of 168.

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: BoiseRob
Schaeffer's 204SAT also has a VI of 196. That's 28 points higher than Castrol Transynd's VI of 168.

Higher VI isn't necessarily a good thing.

 

[BoiseRob]

VI being Viscosity Index. How can a higher VI be bad?

 

[unDummy]

Higher VI could simply using more additives. Higher VI fluids could shear more if VII/VM is the cause. It depends on what is used to make the higher VI.

I never really found matic-j hard to find.

I expect the Schaeffers to be a superbly performing ATF.

 

[bmwtechguy]

Originally Posted By: unDummy

I expect the Schaeffers to be a superbly performing ATF.


Yes, and at a price that doesn't break the bank.

 

[G-MAN]

Originally Posted By: BoiseRob
Schaeffer's 204SAT also has a VI of 196. That's 28 points higher than Castrol Transynd's VI of 168.


One of the reasons Transynd has such a "low" VI is that it doesn't use any VI improvers. The VI is solely the product of the high VI base oils used. It's the same with Amsoil's "version" of Transynd: VI is 171. Amsoil's Quick Shift ATF has no VI improvers and a VI of 133.

With a VI of 196, I'd be willing to bet the Schaeffer's fluid is using VI improvers.

 

[denny2w]

One other item I've noted. This ATF has a very noticeable fish smell when you open the bottle.
I remember back in the 1970's they banned Whale oil use in ATF,
well this Schaeffer's sure has the smell...

 

[BearZDefect]

Scheaffer's aren't whalers. They use synthetic fish in the ATF.

Fish is a fine ingredient, whether conventional or synthetic.
Just omit the mercury and lead.

Ok, enough of that.

Do you have a nearby dealer where you can get only 12 quarts?

 

[denny2w]

Originally Posted By: BearZDefect
Scheaffer's aren't whalers. They use synthetic fish in the ATF.

Fish is a fine ingredient, whether conventional or synthetic.
Just omit the mercury and lead.

Ok, enough of that.

Do you have a nearby dealer where you can get only 12 quarts?


I live in the St.Louis area about (40 miles) from where Schaeffer's is made so getting it is not a problem. One of the guys in our car club is a dealer so we just order it from him. The last order was around $700, 5 guys I work with at Boeing put together an order. A case of 12 is not a problem. If you need his phone number let me know.