Schaeffers All-Trans fluid has been updated

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This may be old news to some but... Today I opened my new case of All-Trans Supreme 204 Schaeffer’s The first thing I noted was a different label from my 2 year old bottles. The words "semi synthetic" have been removed and "Full Synthetic" has taken its place. Nissan Matic-J has now been added to the Nissan Matic-D recommended ATF list. These may not be the only changes but the ones that effect me as I own a 350z which calls out the hard to find "Matic-J" Other owners of 350z, G-35 etc may find this helpful in the search for transmission fluid...
 
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Schaeffer's 204SAT also has a VI of 196. That's 28 points higher than Castrol Transynd's VI of 168.
 
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 Originally Posted By: BoiseRob
Schaeffer's 204SAT also has a VI of 196. That's 28 points higher than Castrol Transynd's VI of 168.
Higher VI isn't necessarily a good thing.
 
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Higher VI could simply using more additives. Higher VI fluids could shear more if VII/VM is the cause. It depends on what is used to make the higher VI. I never really found matic-j hard to find. I expect the Schaeffers to be a superbly performing ATF.
 
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 Originally Posted By: BoiseRob
Schaeffer's 204SAT also has a VI of 196. That's 28 points higher than Castrol Transynd's VI of 168.
One of the reasons Transynd has such a "low" VI is that it doesn't use any VI improvers. The VI is solely the product of the high VI base oils used. It's the same with Amsoil's "version" of Transynd: VI is 171. Amsoil's Quick Shift ATF has no VI improvers and a VI of 133. With a VI of 196, I'd be willing to bet the Schaeffer's fluid is using VI improvers.
 

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One other item I've noted. This ATF has a very noticeable fish smell when you open the bottle. I remember back in the 1970's they banned Whale oil use in ATF, well this Schaeffer's sure has the smell...
 
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Scheaffer's aren't whalers. They use synthetic fish in the ATF. ;\) Fish is a fine ingredient, whether conventional or synthetic. Just omit the mercury and lead. Ok, enough of that. Do you have a nearby dealer where you can get only 12 quarts?
 

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 Originally Posted By: BearZDefect
Scheaffer's aren't whalers. They use synthetic fish in the ATF. ;\) Fish is a fine ingredient, whether conventional or synthetic. Just omit the mercury and lead. Ok, enough of that. Do you have a nearby dealer where you can get only 12 quarts?
I live in the St.Louis area about (40 miles) from where Schaeffer's is made so getting it is not a problem. One of the guys in our car club is a dealer so we just order it from him. The last order was around $700, 5 guys I work with at Boeing put together an order. A case of 12 is not a problem. If you need his phone number let me know.
 
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