Nissan Rogue CVT fluid and service advice

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We have a 2016 Nissan Rogue with the dreaded Jatco CVT. CVT has always been serviced on time. It seems like they just do a drain and fill and don't mess with the filters.

The fluid isn't too old, but it down shifts kind of hard when going downhill. It might be normal, hard to know. I was thinking of swapping the fluid out to something better than OEM which isn't even synthetic apparently. I know there are differing opinions on this. It's also extremely expensive.

I was wondering what people's experiences have been recently with different fluids.

AMSOIL seems to have universally good reviews. Since the fluid isn't that old, I was thinking of just doing a single drain and fill which will get out about half or so. You can't get it all out. Then I'd be good for another 30k miles or so. HPL seems to make a CVT fluid too now. Anyone tried it?

People also seem to have good experiences with the Castrol CVT fluid, but in all of the threads and reviews I've read, it was before they switched to a universal ATF/CVT fluid: https://www.castrol.com/en_us/unite...s/our-brands/automotive/castrol-transmax.html Anyone try this one recently?

How are people servicing these? Dropping the pan and changing the filter? There's an in-line filter too, in addition to the one in the pan. I think Nissan considers them "lifetime."

Since this is the weak point on the car, I want to be proactive.
 
Well lets clarify that no CVT actually shifts gears despite how it might feel. I have 2 CVT cars right now and have had 2 CVT cars before these current ones. I can recommend Idemitsu CVT fluid, or Eneos CVT fluid or Aisin CVT fluid. I have used Idemitsu rather than Nissan CVT primarily because the non OEM brands are slightly cheaper, but I know that Nissan dealers have lowered the retail price of their CVT fluid so the prices might be the same. Please note that Nissan Corp does NOT produce their own oils !! they and Jatco specify the type and forumulation standards that must be met and oil formulators produce to the recipe. Idemitsu, Eneos, Aisin and others are direct suppliers to Nissan and Jatco, so take comfort if you choose to use non-OEM brands from my list of quality brands. Naturally the Nissan brand fluid is just fine, but I can assure you it's made by one of the oil formulators and not Jatco or Nissan.

A drain and fill is perfectly fine, no need for doing the inside pan filter, HOWEVER, I do recommend to replace the pleated filter on the outside of the transmission case. This is found under a aluminum housing and has 4x 10mm bolts. The filter is going to be about $30
and I think it's a good idea to change every 60k miles if you are going to do a drain and fill of the CVT oil at 30k mile intervals.

Filter - Nissan (3172628X0A)​


This is for the pleated filter on the side of the case, there is a large O-Ring that you should also purchase for this housing. Might add $5
 
I've used transmax in my jf011e and it's great. Thankfully this one isn't programed with fake shifts like that one. Change it frequently. Shortest interval i've done is 7k miles. Get an aftermarket dip stick if it's one of those jatcos without one just a stupid plug but no stick to measure.
 
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Well lets clarify that no CVT actually shifts gears despite how it might feel. I have 2 CVT cars right now and have had 2 CVT cars before these current ones. I can recommend Idemitsu CVT fluid, or Eneos CVT fluid or Aisin CVT fluid. I have used Idemitsu rather than Nissan CVT primarily because the non OEM brands are slightly cheaper, but I know that Nissan dealers have lowered the retail price of their CVT fluid so the prices might be the same. Please note that Nissan Corp does NOT produce their own oils !! they and Jatco specify the type and forumulation standards that must be met and oil formulators produce to the recipe. Idemitsu, Eneos, Aisin and others are direct suppliers to Nissan and Jatco, so take comfort if you choose to use non-OEM brands from my list of quality brands. Naturally the Nissan brand fluid is just fine, but I can assure you it's made by one of the oil formulators and not Jatco or Nissan.

A drain and fill is perfectly fine, no need for doing the inside pan filter, HOWEVER, I do recommend to replace the pleated filter on the outside of the transmission case. This is found under a aluminum housing and has 4x 10mm bolts. The filter is going to be about $30
and I think it's a good idea to change every 60k miles if you are going to do a drain and fill of the CVT oil at 30k mile intervals.

Filter - Nissan (3172628X0A)​


This is for the pleated filter on the side of the case, there is a large O-Ring that you should also purchase for this housing. Might add $5
Thank you for the help! 🫡

I really didn't want to drop the pan and have to get a new gasket for it. I think there's 19 bolts for it.

The part number is extremely helpful. I will inquire about the gasket. Hopefully they can give me the right one. I have a big Nissan dealer close by, but you're kind of dependent on the parts guy to find the right part for you.
 
I've used transmax in my jf011e and it's great. Thankfully this one isn't programed with fake shifts like that one. Change it frequently. Shortest interval i've done is 7k miles. Get an aftermarket dip stick if it's one of those jatcos without one just a stupid plug but no stick to measure.
Thank you! Just to confirm, you're referring to this universal ATF/CVT fluid I linked in the OP? It's a recent change I think. They used to have a specific CVT fluid.

Do you just do a single drain and fill?

I saw on some Youtube videos that people do buy the dip stick. I have the silly plug in ours.
 
I've used Valvoline and Castrol CVT fluid in a well used, high mileage Altima with good results. I recently used Lubegard CVT in a '17 Accord Sport; it seemed to work very well. I would just continue to service it, every 25K miles. Good luck.
 
I've used Valvoline and Castrol CVT fluid in a well used, high mileage Altima with good results. I recently used Lubegard CVT in a '17 Accord Sport; it seemed to work very well. I would just continue to service it, every 25K miles. Good luck.
Do you just do a single drain and fill? Did you change the filter?

I'm not far out from my CVT service, but I was thinking of doing it again to swap the filter out and also switch to a synthetic fluid.

Castrol Transmax ATF/CVT is only $24 at Walmart for a gallon.
 
Thank you! Just to confirm, you're referring to this universal ATF/CVT fluid I linked in the OP? It's a recent change I think. They used to have a specific CVT fluid.

Do you just do a single drain and fill?

I saw on some Youtube videos that people do buy the dip stick. I have the silly plug in ours.
I've always done a single drain and fill. I've only changed the separate filter once and it was very clean. Cut the paper out and stretched it and with a strong flashlight i saw nothing. Didn't think to take pictures of it. The two magnets had almost nothing too. These can go at least 150k on the original filter as long as it's serviced and not failing.

The metal pickup tube in the pan is just a fine mesh but i got another only for the O ring since that was flattening and i didn't want it to suck air as that would be a disaster. Even if the pickup or filter don't have anything in them the O ring has to be changed.

I'd only ever do multiple ones if it was neglected but if I had to do that to a cvt in the first place i'd be trading it in while it still works. Cvt's are reliable if cared for but they are completely intolerant of neglect. But since I took care of it the fluid never got dark on the stick before I changed it. Though i've noticed that a very small and fine amount of metal collects on the stick when I wipe it but it's almost nothing.

And yes i've only used the atf/cvt. Never used their dedicated cvt before that. I think the atf/cvt has existed since 2019 or 2020. it's been out for a while. I waited for other to test it and used the proper green stuff which also had a smell to it which this one doesn't but that doesn't seem to affect anything.
 
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I've always done a single drain and fill. I've only changed the separate filter once and it was very clean. Cut the paper out and stretched it and with a strong flashlight i saw nothing. Didn't think to take pictures of it. The two magnets had almost nothing too. These can go at least 150k on the original filter as long as it's serviced and not failing.

The metal pickup tube in the pan is just a fine mesh but i got another only for the O ring since that was flattening and i didn't want it to suck air as that would be a disaster. Even if the pickup or filter don't have anything in them the O ring has to be changed.

I'd only ever do multiple ones if it was neglected but if I had to do that to a cvt in the first place i'd be trading it in while it still works. Cvt's are reliable if cared for but they are completely intolerant of neglect. But since I took care of it the fluid never got dark on the stick before I changed it. Though i've noticed that a very small and fine amount of metal collects on the stick when I wipe it but it's almost nothing. And yes i've only used the atf/cvt. Never used their dedicated cvt before that. I think the atf/cvt has existed since 2019 or 2020. it's been out for a while. I waited for other to test it and used the proper green stuff which also had a smell to it which this one doesn't but doesn't seem to affect anything.
Thanks a lot. This is very helpful.

And yes i've only used the atf/cvt. Never used their dedicated cvt before that. I think the atf/cvt has existed since 2019 or 2020.
Most of the reviews I found are that old actually, so that's also what prompted me to ask again here. A lot has changed in 5-6+ years.
 
Do you just do a single drain and fill? Did you change the filter?

I'm not far out from my CVT service, but I was thinking of doing it again to swap the filter out and also switch to a synthetic fluid.

Castrol Transmax ATF/CVT is only $24 at Walmart for a gallon.
Never changed the filter. Just did short services until the fluid stopped darkening quickly. I did the 1st 2 services a long with 5K oil changes. Maybe did the 3rd about 10K later.
I've not used the ATF/CVT fluid. I might try the Lubegard I'd I were you. Good luck.
 
I've had mine serviced every 30,000 miles at the dealership. Drain and fill with the expensive OEM fluid. It's over 190,000 miles now. No filter changes.

When I bought the car back in 2013, there wasn't as much information available about maintenence and the manual said to inspect the fluid, which I couldn't do. I took it in because it whined when driven hard, which I figured meant it was time for a fluid service. I couldn't even get the fluid dipstick cap off, so for a biennial change I said to hell with it and let the dealership do it for the past twelve years.

I finally got the dipstick out. Rubber o-ring was just really grippy. Now that I know more about it I'm going to service it myself next time with one of the aftermarket fluids. Probably Valvoline since I'm sticking with the 30k interval.
 
I have a Suzuki Kizashi with a JATCO cvt. At just 56K miles now. Have exchanged about 10 quarts of fluid with an extractor over a couple of years. Always used Valvoline CVT fluid. Used fluid looked normal. I did add a few magnets to the outside of transmission pan for added protection. Never dropped the pan or replaced the external filter yet. Filter and O ring is available from a Mitsubishi part. No problem yet. I drive the car very gingerly.
 
We have a 2016 Nissan Rogue with the dreaded Jatco CVT. CVT has always been serviced on time. It seems like they just do a drain and fill and don't mess with the filters.

The fluid isn't too old, but it down shifts kind of hard when going downhill. It might be normal, hard to know. I was thinking of swapping the fluid out to something better than OEM which isn't even synthetic apparently. I know there are differing opinions on this. It's also extremely expensive.

I was wondering what people's experiences have been recently with different fluids.

AMSOIL seems to have universally good reviews. Since the fluid isn't that old, I was thinking of just doing a single drain and fill which will get out about half or so. You can't get it all out. Then I'd be good for another 30k miles or so. HPL seems to make a CVT fluid too now. Anyone tried it?

People also seem to have good experiences with the Castrol CVT fluid, but in all of the threads and reviews I've read, it was before they switched to a universal ATF/CVT fluid: https://www.castrol.com/en_us/unite...s/our-brands/automotive/castrol-transmax.html Anyone try this one recently?

How are people servicing these? Dropping the pan and changing the filter? There's an in-line filter too, in addition to the one in the pan. I think Nissan considers them "lifetime."

Since this is the weak point on the car, I want to be proactive.
I've just done drain and fill with oem on 3 Nissans but we never exceeded 100k miles because I wanted to trade before the cvt started acting bad.
 
I've just done drain and fill with oem on 3 Nissans but we never exceeded 100k miles because I wanted to trade before the cvt started acting bad.
I think they're reliable if the fluid is changed regularly. The vast majority of complaints I see online are from people with high mileage that never serviced the fluid. The problem is that Nissan has a perception as a cheap car. The people purchasing them overlaps with the type to not do regular maintenance.
 
Nothing wrong with the Nissan NS-3 fluid. Go for a 30 minute drive get the transmission up to temperature… “drain”measure what you get out and replace I did two drain and refills and replaced the cooler cartridge filter. I used LUBE GARD COMPLETE CVT fluid and haven’t witnessed any issues.

You won’t find one fluid better than the other… as long as it meets spec, compatible with OE fluid and not an all automatic universal transmission fluid you’re good to go.

I did my service at 60k, purchased the vehicle around 58k.. I don’t have a predetermined date for the next transmission service but I may do the pan strainer filter then. I only put on 5-6,000 miles since.
 
I think they're reliable if the fluid is changed regularly. The vast majority of complaints I see online are from people with high mileage that never serviced the fluid. The problem is that Nissan has a perception as a cheap car. The people purchasing them overlaps with the type to not do regular maintenance.
The only "repair" we had was an O2 sensor on a 70k mile V6 Altima that I replaced myself.
 
The only "repair" we had was an O2 sensor on a 70k mile V6 Altima that I replaced myself.
I had several repairs, but the majority related to routine maintenance or parts failure that I would consider normal for a vehicle with 190,00 miles. Every vehicle I've owned has needed increasing maintenance after 150,000 miles, and the Altima has been no different. But the severity and cost has been low and I was able to complete most of the work myself.
 
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Here's a link to another post regarding JATCO CVT maintenance:

TLDR
- update your firmware
- keep your CVT fluid CLEAN (and that means keeping the pan & magnets clean)
- keep your CVT fluid from overheating (monitor temps)
 
Here's a link to another post regarding JATCO CVT maintenance:

TLDR
- update your firmware
- keep your CVT fluid CLEAN (and that means keeping the pan & magnets clean)
- keep your CVT fluid from overheating (monitor temps)
Thank you.

It's been dealer serviced twice so I hope that they updated the firmware. They said they reset the computer, whatever that means, when I picked it up last time.

It seems many do not recommend dropping the pan. People seem 50/50 on the paper cartridge filter that is external. Doesn't seem like it fills up very fast.

Did you replace the transmission pan gasket?
 
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