- Nov 17, 2012
The thread here about clone brands became more interensting to me this past weekend when I bought a pair of new pull-offs that matched my front pair in all aspects but for the name on the sidewall. Both tires have these markings... When I bought KitaCam used from a dealer, it had put on a new pair of "noname" tires (Sumic) up front....the rear were used nonames (Futura)... I hadn't ever heard or seen either, and neither were my choice .....but... I decided to drive them for 2k+ miles in varying conditions, around town/on the highway...before deciding whether to replace them.... ..."testing" them, pushing them, with "emergency" braking, tight turns, quick lane changes, etc...in rain as well as on drive land...only then would I feel comfortable with them... To my surprise the Sumics worked fine...they track better than I expected...but then, this is a CAMRY not a Bimmer so I didn't expect much... The only issue I had was a bit of that soft/floating feeling you get @ speed on the interstate...but that is as much/more due to the Camry suspension than it is a tire issue... So I have no problem with Sumic tires... But those rear pair were 4 years old and I don't like that here on Florida's hot pavement...they were okay but needed to be replaced.... And so...when I came across a good deal on a pair of new "pull-offs" matching the Sumics, I decided to replace the used Futuras with the "like new" tread... And here's the point of the story...the new tires are labled DORAL, a different brand, but identical is tread design and sidewall markings of the Sumics... I'm guessing that SUMIC/DORAL are "vanity" brands labeled differently for local markets... ...curiously.... Both pair were made at the same factory (marked by the 7T on the sidewall) The new rear pair were made in 2012, just 1 week after the front pair...2512/2612...one week was Sumic, and the next week was Doral's turn I guess Sumic and Doral are both made in Indonesia by Sumi (Sumitomo) Rubber... As I said, I had never heard of or seen any tire named Doral, or Sumic tires for that matter (though I've since read they Sumi Rubber makes Dunlops and Goodrich among other brands) ....and then just one day after buying the Dorals, I parked next to my boss's (2009?) Camry and her factory OEM tires were the very same Doral! Strange world... ...I thought this interesting given the other thread on tire brand-clones, so I'm posting this thread to just to add this into the tire branding mix. I should note that the Doral SDL 65A is often INcorrectly pictured on Ebay with instead the tread of the SDL 65....the "A" does make a difference This is not a brand-bashing, or a country-of-origin-clone-bashing thread....I'm pleased with the Sumic/Doral tires... ...actually the Futuras weren't bad either but as already noted they were used and 4 years old, whereas the Sumics/Dorals were made just 6 months ago in 2012.... FRESH tires matter to me, especially on sunny HOT Florida pavement, since I'm going to put only 10k miles a year on them...and 4 years is a safe limit in terms of dry-rot... It would be nice to get more than 25K miles from them as they're rated 400/A/A, (45,000 mi.) but that isn't as important as stopping/tracking/stable performance [over the past 320k miles here in Florida, I've typically gotten about only 30k (half their expected tread-life) from Michelin/Bridgestone/Goodrich tires] Anyway...I thought it may be interesting to show this type of tire branding... ...and invite any other additional multi-branding of identical tires...