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Guess that people are still purchasing them....
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DETROIT (Reuters) – Sales incentives, including zero-percent financing offers, have boosted Toyota Motor Corp's (7203.T) U.S. sales by nearly 50 percent in early March, an industry tracking service and dealers said on Thursday.

Edmunds, which analyzes U.S. auto sales trends, said Toyota sales were up 47 percent from a year earlier in the first eight days of March.

Edmunds estimated that Toyota's U.S. retail market share in early March had jumped to 16.8 percent, up sharply from 12.8 percent a month earlier, when safety recall problems had sent sales tumbling.

Industrywide U.S. auto sales are tracking to hit a rate of 12.5 million vehicles in March because of the steep discounts on Toyota vehicles and a competitive campaign launched by General Motors Co (GM.UL).

GM is offering car shoppers rebates of up to $3,000 on vehicles including the Malibu mid-size sedan, or zero-percent financing.

Toyota, which has traditionally spurned such discount programs in order to protect resale values, has offered up to $3,000 in rebates and dealer incentives on a range of vehicles, including its top-selling Camry, or cut-rate financing.

Both manufacturers are offering steeper discounts on their competing full-size pickup trucks, GM's Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra and the Toyota Tundra.

Edmunds said GM's sales incentives lifted Chevy's retail market share to 12.9 percent, up from 11.4 percent a month earlier.

Several major Toyota dealers said their own sales were running slightly higher than the Edmunds estimate through Tuesday. That would mark a sharp reversal from sales declines in January and February tied to the automaker's recall crisis.

Paul Atkinson, president of the Toyota national dealer's council and a Toyota dealer in Texas, said he expected that the March sales boost from incentives would mirror what the automaker saw during the 2009 "cash for clunkers" program.

Toyota was the big winner from that U.S. government-funded scrappage program, which offered tax credits of up to $4,500 to swap out of older and less fuel-efficient vehicles.

Toyota had a 19.4 percent share of vehicles sold under the "clunkers" program that ran from late July through the third week of August 2009. Toyota's share was the highest in the industry.

"I truly believe that March could rival cash for clunkers," Atkinson said.

Sales at his own dealership were running at three times the level of January and February in early March, he said. Customers shopping for the bargains do not appear concerned by Toyota's recalls, he said.

"Honestly, I think the public has had enough," he said.

Toyota has recalled 8 vehicles globally to address the risk that accelerator pedals on a range of its vehicles could become stuck because of a loose floor mat or a glitch in the pedal assembly.

Unintended acceleration in the company's Toyota and Lexus vehicles has been linked to at least five U.S. crash deaths since 2007. Authorities are investigating 47 other Toyota crash deaths over the past decade.

Just this week, as Toyota sought to shift attention away from the safety problems, at least three U.S. drivers reported new cases of driving vehicles that appeared to surge out of control.

Atkinson has encouraged Toyota dealers to protest GM's incentives in March, saying they amounted to a taxpayer-funded program of discounts because the U.S. government funded GM's restructuring in bankruptcy with $50 billion in aid.

"We just want a level playing field," he told Reuters. "These GM incentives are kind of like using tax dollars to encourage my fellow citizens to not do business with me."

GM has defended its use of incentives, saying such discounts are a well-established part of the way cars are sold in the U.S. market.

(Editing by Gerald E. McCormick)
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Not to start an argument. But Toyotas numbers vs Toyotas numbers from last year aren't nearly as important to them as their market share numbers will be. Because of their expansion and production capacity, if they lose 3-6% market share, that will be disastrous to them. They could easily lose that 3-5% market share, yet at the same time improve year over year.

I'm not saying improved sales numbers aren't important, just not nearly as important as how those improvements compare to the other manufacturers improved numbers. Everybody, in essence, should have a better year than last year, God help us if we dont.
 
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Well others are tooting the horn that Ford sales are up from whatever they were last year and are all giddy about that.
 
Agreed. But Ford should/does have an improved market share as well.

I'm not disagreeing with you that year over year numbers aren't relevant. Just that with Toyotas production capacity and the attendant costs, a loss in market share is damaging to them.

If Toyota sells 1 million more cars than last year it will be irrelevant if Ford sells 5 million more during the same cycle.
 
Originally Posted By: pbm
Buy a Ford...no goverment funding.


The only reason Ford didn't need any Gov't funding was that they re-structured just before the recession hit, GM lost 80 Billion dollars under Rick Wagner, and dragged their feet on re-structuring. At least the Gov't was smart enough to give Rick the axe!
 
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Originally Posted By: rszappa1
And Ford has a lot of debt to pay back to the banks because of that....


The debt they have now is better than being paid to run by the US govt.

"Atkinson has encouraged Toyota dealers to protest GM's incentives in March, saying they amounted to a taxpayer-funded program of discounts because the U.S. government funded GM's restructuring in bankruptcy with $50 billion in aid.

"We just want a level playing field," he told Reuters. "These GM incentives are kind of like using tax dollars to encourage my fellow citizens to not do business with me." "

For god's sake this guy is so full of it and himself. GM is still a company. Auto companies use discounts to draw buyers. How about this, you are using japanese money in order to encourage American buyers not to do business with GM.
 
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Hmmm, yeah, I wonder if that dealer had the same type attitude back when Toyota didn't have any plants here. Back when the only Americans making money off Toyota sales were Toyota salesman....lol.
 
Originally Posted By: rszappa1
Yea companies do that but not when they are owned by us.... the US taxpayers....


You say that, but is there precedent for this? I wuold politely ask you to note that the treasury has not put any more money into GM since the end of the bankruptcy proceedings. If you are shareholder in a bank, would you be [censored] off if they financed the bankruptcy proceedings of another company because you don't want to be paying for it?
 
Just shows a lot of stupid people will put their families lives in jepoardy to get a rebate. I bet Toyota is loosing money on each car they sell.

From Allpar:

"With sales and customer demand falling, Toyota, whose leaders have repeated many times in recent weeks that they would rather have high quality than high production, has brought out heavy subsidies to boost sales.

With free financing, subsidized leases, and free maintenance added to existing incentives, Toyota is adding the kind of rebates slammed by analysts when used on American cars. The incentives are expected to raise Toyota sales by 30% for March 2010, according to analysts, but may have an impact on Toyota’s once stellar resale values, which have already started to fall."
 
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Originally Posted By: VNTS
Just shows a lot of stupid people will put their families lives in jeopardy to get a rebate. I bet Toyota is loosing money on each car they sell.



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Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
Hmmm, yeah, I wonder if that dealer had the same type attitude back when Toyota didn't have any plants here. Back when the only Americans making money off Toyota sales were Toyota salesman....lol.


YES, EXACTLY!!!

The "wanting a level playing field" comment is absolutely HILARIOUS!!!
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