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Pep Girls runs a special on it once or twice a year.

If I order online, the shipping prices kill any savings.

I just wish the local stores would stock RP 0w40. I'd use that in a heartbeat.
 
Originally Posted By: Zako2
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Capa
RP gear oil's have a good reputation, however, as so many have stated, their motor oil is overpriced (for most). Besides Walmart's 5 quart gallons Oreilly's, Auto Zone, Advanced Auto, etc will sell 5 quarts of synthetic oil with a real long drain oil liter for around $32, and those sales are going on at least every other month in one of those stores. How can a boutique oil compete with that? And then, of course, there is this:

http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_article001398592.cfm


Originally Posted By: Zako2
A quart of RP may be less than $1 more expensive than a quart of Mobil 1 or similar. However, no smart buyer buys Mobil 1/Castrol Edge/Synpower either in quarts or big jugs at auto parts store, unless it's on sale. When they're on sale, the quarts drop in price significantly, very much to big jug levels (per quart). RP on the other hand never seems to go on sale and is only available in quart bottles.


LOTS of people buy those synthetics in qt bottles. It may be because their sump takes less than 5 qts and they don't want to deal with the left over from a 5qt jug or many sumps take more than 5qts which requires a few qt bottles as well. Lots of people won't shop at Wal-Mart as well. The main point made was when comapring qt bottle costs RP is no more expensive than the others.


But that's not a relevant price comparison. Like I said, a smart shopper will buy quarts of synthetic oil when they're on sale. When they're on sale, it doesn't matter if he buys either quarts or jugs. The per quart cost will be the same, usually in the $5-6 range per quart. RP never seems to be on sale at auto parts stores.


It has nothing to do with being a smart shopper. It is a simple comparison of regular prices. Not everyone ONLY buys their oil on sale. However, if you wish to force sale prices into it PepBoys routinely offers RP oil on sale w/ and w/o filters. O'Reilley's has had sales on RP as well. AAP has it right now for 7.49 a qt( M1 EP is $9.19 ). So you can get it for a reasonable cost is all I am saying.
 
Originally Posted By: dparm
Pep Girls runs a special on it once or twice a year.

If I order online, the shipping prices kill any savings.

I just wish the local stores would stock RP 0w40. I'd use that in a heartbeat.


PM sent
 
Originally Posted By: Capa
Who buys at regular prices on BITOG?


Anyone who is brand specific/loyal, who has no oil on hand and needs to do an OC, and that brand is not on sale anywhere.

Hey, I buy my RP on sale when I can. I don't think it is better to buy oil at full price or anything. I took advantage of the recent PepBoys deal and got my 10 qts of 5W20 like any BITOG member would( only allowed 2 5qt deals ). However, if I need oil and no where has RP on sale I still buy it. I don't pick something else. I just go to my cheapeast source for regular prices.

Lots of people like to use one specific brand and not change every OC. Not everyone only buys oil that is on sale. Even at BITOG.
 
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Originally Posted By: 02zx9r
over priced, under performer


Never used it, useless opinion
 
Royal Purple is a tier 1 oil, in the same league as Amsoil and Redline.

For those that value UOA results, a few years ago I did an analysis of UOA results:

There is a thread in the UOA section where "nicrfe1370" posted a speadsheet with 120 Subaru UOA's. Of course this is many different engines, climates, driving styles, etc.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1293170&fpart=1

I eliminated the data with less than 20,000 miles (break-in) and OCI less than 4000 miles to get rid of short OCI's. I was left with 90 samples.

I then sorted the data by ppm iron per 1000 miles.

Amsoil, Redline and Royal Purple dominate the top performers.

See below for the iron ppm/1000 miles sort - RP oils tended to perform very well:

Miles iron/1000 Oil Brand
13500 0.2 Amsoil S2000
12664 0.3 Amsoil S3000
5786 0.3 Amsoil
4982 0.4 Redline
4323 0.5 Amsoil S3000
6904 0.6 RP Racing 21
22000 0.6 Amsoil S2000
4871 0.6 Redline
7490 0.7 Mobil 1
7156 0.7 Amsoil
5022 0.8 Royal Purple
4983 0.8 Royal Purple
4963 0.8 Redline
7382 0.8 Amsoil
5592 0.9 Tech2000
7777 0.9 RP Racing 21
8800 0.9 Chevron Supreme
7521 0.9 RP Racing 21
5319 0.9 Pennzoil/Pennzoil Plat
5174 1.0 Amsoil ASL
4131 1.0 Redline
5012 1.0 Redline
4950 1.0 Tech2000
5800 1.0 Mobil 1
7579 1.1 Mobil 1
7504 1.1 RP Racing 21
6500 1.1 Amsoil S3000
4632 1.1 Castrol High Mileage
7230 1.1 Amsoil S3000
4407 1.1 Motorcraft
5200 1.2 Amsoil ASL
6840 1.2 Synergyn
7666 1.2 Mobil 1
6790 1.2 Pennzoil Platinum
5089 1.2 Castrol Syntec
5061 1.2 Castrol Syntec
5840 1.2 Pennzoil Platinum
4082 1.2 Castrol GTX
7100 1.3 Castrol Syntec
8332 1.3 Mobil 1, Amsoil S3K
7534 1.3 Mobil 1
5174 1.4 Amsoil S2000
8077 1.4 Amsoil AMO
6540 1.4 Synergyn
5023 1.4 Synergyn
5003 1.4 RP Racing 21
5000 1.4 Mobil 1
7000 1.4 Pennzoil
4888 1.4 Mobil 1
8843 1.5 Amsoil
10000 1.5 Royal Purple
8000 1.5 Schaeffers
5200 1.5 Amsoil ASL
7780 1.5 Mobil Delvac 1
7000 1.6 Mobil 1
4411 1.6 Motorcraft
5000 1.6 Mobil 1
4316 1.6 Mobil 1, Amsoil S3K
13500 1.6 Amsoil ATM
4906 1.6 Castrol GTX
4796 1.7 Mobil 1
4788 1.7 Castrol Syntec
5930 1.7 Castrol Syntec
7000 1.7 Mobil 1
4000 1.8 Mobil 1
6213 1.8 Mobil 1
6165 1.8 Mobil 1
6144 1.8 Castrol Syntec
6000 1.8 Amsoil ATM
7600 1.8 unknown dealer non-synth
7000 1.9 Royal Purple
5921 1.9 Castrol GTX
4284 1.9 Pennzoil blend
6362 1.9 Mobil 1/Amsoil S3K/Mobil 1 T&SUV
7845 1.9 Castrol Syntec (GC)
4046 2.0 Amsoil
6524 2.0 Motul 300V Chrono
5303 2.1 Amsoil S3000
6261 2.2 Mobil 1
9581 2.3 Amsoil S2000
4647 2.6 Mobil 1
6000 2.8 Amsoil
7566 2.9 Mobil 1
7183 2.9 Mobil 1
6470 3.1 Schaeffers
5083 3.1 Castrol Syntec (GC)
7505 3.3 Mobil 1
7433 3.4 Mobil 1
4100 4.1 Schaeffers
 
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: 02zx9r
over priced, under performer


Never used it, useless opinion


And just like clockwork, he chimes in. Man I have my puppet trained well on here
 
children...children..calm down you guys act like your mother was insulted...Its just oil and we ALL know RP,Amsoil, Redline are the kings...
 
Originally Posted By: mva
Royal Purple is a tier 1 oil, in the same league as Amsoil and Redline.

For those that value UOA results, a few years ago I did an analysis of UOA results:

There is a thread in the UOA section where "nicrfe1370" posted a speadsheet with 120 Subaru UOA's. Of course this is many different engines, climates, driving styles, etc.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1293170&fpart=1

I eliminated the data with less than 20,000 miles (break-in) and OCI less than 4000 miles to get rid of short OCI's. I was left with 90 samples.

I then sorted the data by ppm iron per 1000 miles.

Amsoil, Redline and Royal Purple dominate the top performers.

See below for the iron ppm/1000 miles sort - RP oils tended to perform very well:

Miles iron/1000 Oil Brand
13500 0.2 Amsoil S2000
12664 0.3 Amsoil S3000
5786 0.3 Amsoil
4982 0.4 Redline
4323 0.5 Amsoil S3000
6904 0.6 RP Racing 21
22000 0.6 Amsoil S2000
4871 0.6 Redline
7490 0.7 Mobil 1
7156 0.7 Amsoil
5022 0.8 Royal Purple
4983 0.8 Royal Purple
4963 0.8 Redline
7382 0.8 Amsoil
5592 0.9 Tech2000
7777 0.9 RP Racing 21
8800 0.9 Chevron Supreme
7521 0.9 RP Racing 21
5319 0.9 Pennzoil/Pennzoil Plat
5174 1.0 Amsoil ASL
4131 1.0 Redline
5012 1.0 Redline
4950 1.0 Tech2000
5800 1.0 Mobil 1
7579 1.1 Mobil 1
7504 1.1 RP Racing 21
6500 1.1 Amsoil S3000
4632 1.1 Castrol High Mileage
7230 1.1 Amsoil S3000
4407 1.1 Motorcraft
5200 1.2 Amsoil ASL
6840 1.2 Synergyn
7666 1.2 Mobil 1
6790 1.2 Pennzoil Platinum
5089 1.2 Castrol Syntec
5061 1.2 Castrol Syntec
5840 1.2 Pennzoil Platinum
4082 1.2 Castrol GTX
7100 1.3 Castrol Syntec
8332 1.3 Mobil 1, Amsoil S3K
7534 1.3 Mobil 1
5174 1.4 Amsoil S2000
8077 1.4 Amsoil AMO
6540 1.4 Synergyn
5023 1.4 Synergyn
5003 1.4 RP Racing 21
5000 1.4 Mobil 1
7000 1.4 Pennzoil
4888 1.4 Mobil 1
8843 1.5 Amsoil
10000 1.5 Royal Purple
8000 1.5 Schaeffers
5200 1.5 Amsoil ASL
7780 1.5 Mobil Delvac 1
7000 1.6 Mobil 1
4411 1.6 Motorcraft
5000 1.6 Mobil 1
4316 1.6 Mobil 1, Amsoil S3K
13500 1.6 Amsoil ATM
4906 1.6 Castrol GTX
4796 1.7 Mobil 1
4788 1.7 Castrol Syntec
5930 1.7 Castrol Syntec
7000 1.7 Mobil 1
4000 1.8 Mobil 1
6213 1.8 Mobil 1
6165 1.8 Mobil 1
6144 1.8 Castrol Syntec
6000 1.8 Amsoil ATM
7600 1.8 unknown dealer non-synth
7000 1.9 Royal Purple
5921 1.9 Castrol GTX
4284 1.9 Pennzoil blend
6362 1.9 Mobil 1/Amsoil S3K/Mobil 1 T&SUV
7845 1.9 Castrol Syntec (GC)
4046 2.0 Amsoil
6524 2.0 Motul 300V Chrono
5303 2.1 Amsoil S3000
6261 2.2 Mobil 1
9581 2.3 Amsoil S2000
4647 2.6 Mobil 1
6000 2.8 Amsoil
7566 2.9 Mobil 1
7183 2.9 Mobil 1
6470 3.1 Schaeffers
5083 3.1 Castrol Syntec (GC)
7505 3.3 Mobil 1
7433 3.4 Mobil 1
4100 4.1 Schaeffers

Thanks for taking the time to gather this data.There is much more value to this,then people who contribute with nothing more then "it's over-rated,it's junk oil" etc with no data or anything to support their "claims".
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Capa
But that's the beauty, they used it and it was overpriced for it's performance:

http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_article001398592.cfm


The article is full of outdated information. I haven't seen the HP claims anymore (and anyone who believed them in the first place should have his head examined) and RP does have SN/GF-5 oil, with actual approval.


It's not like the link is from the '80's or 90's, this occurred about 3 years ago. Yes, there have been some changes and some of RP's oil are now approved and, yes, RP probably won't be making multiple exaggerated claims again.

And the fraudulent claims weren't just on horsepower but "NAD recommended Royal Purple discontinue claims such as “Increases horsepower and torque by as much as 3 percent,” “Reduces Engine Wear by 80 percent,” “Superior Oxidation Stability” and “Provides Film Strength Up to 400 Percent.” As well as, NAD recommended that Royal Purple discontinue claims that stated, “Improves fuel economy by as much as 5 percent” .
 
Originally Posted By: Capa
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Capa
But that's the beauty, they used it and it was overpriced for it's performance:

http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_article001398592.cfm


The article is full of outdated information. I haven't seen the HP claims anymore (and anyone who believed them in the first place should have his head examined) and RP does have SN/GF-5 oil, with actual approval.


It's not like the link is from the '80's or 90's, this occurred about 3 years ago. Yes, there have been some changes and some of RP's oil are now approved and, yes, RP probably won't be making multiple exaggerated claims again.

And the fraudulent claims weren't just on horsepower but "NAD recommended Royal Purple discontinue claims such as “Increases horsepower and torque by as much as 3 percent,” “Reduces Engine Wear by 80 percent,” “Superior Oxidation Stability” and “Provides Film Strength Up to 400 Percent.” As well as, NAD recommended that Royal Purple discontinue claims that stated, “Improves fuel economy by as much as 5 percent” .


It's called advertising an product. Every oil company does it,so not sure what your point is.
 
Originally Posted By: DragRace
Originally Posted By: Capa
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Capa
But that's the beauty, they used it and it was overpriced for it's performance:

http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_article001398592.cfm


The article is full of outdated information. I haven't seen the HP claims anymore (and anyone who believed them in the first place should have his head examined) and RP does have SN/GF-5 oil, with actual approval.


It's not like the link is from the '80's or 90's, this occurred about 3 years ago. Yes, there have been some changes and some of RP's oil are now approved and, yes, RP probably won't be making multiple exaggerated claims again.

And the fraudulent claims weren't just on horsepower but "NAD recommended Royal Purple discontinue claims such as “Increases horsepower and torque by as much as 3 percent,” “Reduces Engine Wear by 80 percent,” “Superior Oxidation Stability” and “Provides Film Strength Up to 400 Percent.” As well as, NAD recommended that Royal Purple discontinue claims that stated, “Improves fuel economy by as much as 5 percent” .


It's called advertising an product. Every oil company does it,so not sure what your point is.


You are more than welcome to mention other oils that have been forced to remove said advertising. Its called false advertising and,no, every company doesn't do it.
 
Originally Posted By: Capa
DragRace said:
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You are more than welcome to mention other oils that have been forced to remove said advertising. Its called false advertising and,no, every company doesn't do it.


Every oil company,car companies,food,any business uses advertising to sell their product.Thats why they have sales teams,thats why they have commercials,the list goes on. You obviously know nothing about the ways businesses operate to sell products let alone prolly never even used RP. Not everyone has the time or $$$ to sit down to analyze everything in food products you'd quickly discover what we eat is hardly good for us,but thats not what food companies will tell you. Everyone has safe drinking water,that doesnt mean you know exactly whats in that spring water filled bottle of water you just bought.I guess we can start complaining about food companies,etc as well,as many products are not as they seem.
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There is a definite diffence between advertising and false advertising and it is unfortunate that you cannot discriminate between the two. Again, you are more than welcome to mention other oils that have been forced to change their adverting because of false claims.
 
Originally Posted By: Capa
There is a definite diffence between advertising and false advertising and it is unfortunate that you cannot discriminate between the two. Again, you are more than welcome to mention other oils that have been forced to change their adverting because of false claims.


You'r clueless. If you dont understand anything of what I just typed previously,your not worth my time to reply any further.
 
I shall abstain from returning in kind your mediocre personal attacks. Obviously, if you cannot differentiate between advertising and false advertising and then there is no need to continue this discussion.
 
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