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Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
This price issue about RP being so much more expensive is just myth and misunderstanding.


I do agree. If I was using synthetic and buying regular price (without hunting for rollbacks), why should I choose WM's M1 when I could buy RP from a local supplier at the same price? If Walmart has a smoking deal, I have no problem buying from there. I'd rather support the small business when I can, though. Walmart isn't one of my customers, so I certainly don't feel obligated to be one of theirs.

Heck, I can have a case of RP delivered to one of my businesses for no additional charge and I can pay at my convenience. Will WM or Canadian Tire do that for me?
 
For $10/qt (normal price in my area) there are other oils I'd rather have.

When it's on sale at Pep Boys, it's a good buy.
 
Johnny DC

I am new to the forums myself. There is a plethora knowledge on these forums.

In response to your question. I have a friend who is the Manager at my local NAPA.

He uses RP for his race car. I have a SUV and use another product. Its vehicle specific and a personal preference. As others recommend an analysis may assist you as a long time goal.

Good hunting Sir!
 
Originally Posted By: dparm
For $10/qt (normal price in my area) there are other oils I'd rather have.

When it's on sale at Pep Boys, it's a good buy.


Not sure why you'd have to pay 10$ a quart for RP,when you can search online and find it at least 3$ cheaper for the API version of RP,and there's not anything wrong with it either,regardless of the non-sense thats spread on these forums.

Obviously,the HPS version is gonna be 9$ a quart,some of you need better shopping skills thats for sure.
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
This price issue about RP being so much more expensive is just myth and misunderstanding.


I do agree. If I was using synthetic and buying regular price (without hunting for rollbacks), why should I choose WM's M1 when I could buy RP from a local supplier at the same price? If Walmart has a smoking deal, I have no problem buying from there. I'd rather support the small business when I can, though. Walmart isn't one of my customers, so I certainly don't feel obligated to be one of theirs.

Heck, I can have a case of RP delivered to one of my businesses for no additional charge and I can pay at my convenience. Will WM or Canadian Tire do that for me?


Here in the US I pay about $5.50 a qt(5 qt jug) for M1 0-20 at WM. That's an every day price. I was paying $5 a qt in 1978 for M1 5-20. WMs price by the qt is $6.50.
 
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Oregoonian
Here we go again.....another RP shootout!

But, but... we haven't had one this month yet.
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Here's the one from last month...

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2679530

And the one from the month before:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2657291#Post2657291





WOO! I'm getting some cred around here finally...
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
"it makes my 1963 Dodge run rough"

To be fair, you'll hear similar comments made about Mobil, Castrol, and just about any other oil out there, too.




LOL so this makes me think the oil is not the problem, it's the 1963 Dodge
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sorry I just had to...
 
If Calumet wants me to try their RP they need to take out the purple dye & bring the price down more in line with other quality synthetics. I'm sure it's good but I can't bring myself to put purple in my engine. M1 & PP works great for less $.
 
If RP was really that big of a rip off, we wouldn't be starting wars over it.

City Star is a rip off, but we don't start wars over it. It's obvious that there's people that really like Royal Purple, and people who don't think that other people should like it.

That's all there is to it, folks.


Personally, I have three bottles that I bought on clearance, haven't used them yet, but I will get around to it eventually. I may end up buying extra qt or 2 to make the oil change capacity of my vehicle.
 
Originally Posted By: Capa
RP gear oil's have a good reputation, however, as so many have stated, their motor oil is overpriced (for most). Besides Walmart's 5 quart gallons Oreilly's, Auto Zone, Advanced Auto, etc will sell 5 quarts of synthetic oil with a real long drain oil liter for around $32, and those sales are going on at least every other month in one of those stores. How can a boutique oil compete with that? And then, of course, there is this:

http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_article001398592.cfm

That's quite amusing considering the claims Castrol make about Edge Ti http://castroledge.co.nz/oils/
  • Castrol EDGE is up to 40% stronger* at reducing metal to metal contact when under the engine’s severest pressures
  • Independent tests also proved that Castrol EDGE is stronger for up to 35% longer^.
*In a test of the oil’s strength across a variety of engine speeds, the Castrol EDGE range average metal to metal contact is 40% lower than a leading competitor.
^We asked a third party laboratory to test the Castrol EDGE range using our Maximum Endurance Test and on this test Castrol EDGE was proven to be on average 35% stronger for longer compared to a competitor brand from another major lubricant supplier.


Back on topic, red tractors are faster than purple ones
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Here in the US I pay about $5.50 a qt(5 qt jug) for M1 0-20 at WM. That's an every day price. I was paying $5 a qt in 1978 for M1 5-20. WMs price by the qt is $6.50.


And I can certainly do better than the pricing I provided, tig1. I was just using WM's and Canadian Tire's regular price on the top end synthetics for comparison's sake. WM here doesn't tend to stock a lot of RP, but CT/Partsource has started. At that establishment, RP is competitively priced with the other high end synthetics.

That being said, as I've mentioned before, if I were to buy synthetic, M1 has the best everyday price; I'd just have to buy it at a place people don't normally look for oil. Its price there has only risen once (by about $2 for the big jug) in around 15 years. And my M1 source is a weird store, yes. For M1, buying by the big jug is the better deal. If I buy Mobil conventional there, it's significantly cheaper by the quart. Go figure.

By the quart, though, my regular price on RP is better than the regular M1 price. I have not gone out to specifically find what the best RP price is for a 5 quart jug, yet.

All I'm saying is that prices are all over the place. If I needed one quart bottles or M1 0w-40 or RP 0w-40 (M1 0w-40 is still only available in litres up here), RP has the better price, barring rollbacks. In the big jug, M1's price beats everything out there, bar none, excepting rollbacks.

It's just not an apples to apples comparison when one is looking at the prices of synthetics like M1 or PP (or even M1 EP, PU, or Edge with Titanium) that are routinely sold at places with huge rollbacks versus something like RP that is mostly available at parts stores.

If I were to switch to synthetics, M1 and RP would be among my top choices, simply because I can get both at a reasonable "regular" price, at locations that are convenient for me, without having to hunt for rollbacks. Rollbacks here on synthetic are usually a recipe for immediately empty shelves, anyhow.
 
Originally Posted By: SXE10
That's quite amusing considering the claims Castrol make about Edge Ti


Yep, find a major oil out there with any type of advertising strategy and see if they don't make flowery claims. RP shouldn't advertise some percentage of wear protection, yet Defy gets to reduce 98% of all future wear, whatever that means? And M1's competitors could have 8x less wear than M1?

I suppose it's acceptable if the claims are meaningless (future wear) or based upon a bad batch.
 
Originally Posted By: tig1

Here in the US I pay about $5.50 a qt(5 qt jug) for M1 0-20 at WM. That's an every day price. I was paying $5 a qt in 1978 for M1 5-20. WMs price by the qt is $6.50.


When is the last time you priced M1 syn oil at Wal-Mart in the qt bottle? Haven't seen $6.50 for over a year around here at the WM's.
 
Originally Posted By: SXE10
Originally Posted By: Capa
RP gear oil's have a good reputation, however, as so many have stated, their motor oil is overpriced (for most). Besides Walmart's 5 quart gallons Oreilly's, Auto Zone, Advanced Auto, etc will sell 5 quarts of synthetic oil with a real long drain oil liter for around $32, and those sales are going on at least every other month in one of those stores. How can a boutique oil compete with that? And then, of course, there is this:

http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_article001398592.cfm

That's quite amusing considering the claims Castrol make about Edge Ti http://castroledge.co.nz/oils/
  • Castrol EDGE is up to 40% stronger* at reducing metal to metal contact when under the engine’s severest pressures
  • Independent tests also proved that Castrol EDGE is stronger for up to 35% longer^.
*In a test of the oil’s strength across a variety of engine speeds, the Castrol EDGE range average metal to metal contact is 40% lower than a leading competitor.
^We asked a third party laboratory to test the Castrol EDGE range using our Maximum Endurance Test and on this test Castrol EDGE was proven to be on average 35% stronger for longer compared to a competitor brand from another major lubricant supplier.


Back on topic, red tractors are faster than purple ones
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Well, RP can always try to call Castrol's "bluff" just like Castrol called RP's bluff and won:

http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_article001398592.cfm

For most people RP is more expensive than other synthetics. I will admit, depending on the special, RP can come close but it still is more expensive. Is it worth the extra cost? Well, according to that article that I linked, no.
 
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: tig1

Here in the US I pay about $5.50 a qt(5 qt jug) for M1 0-20 at WM. That's an every day price. I was paying $5 a qt in 1978 for M1 5-20. WMs price by the qt is $6.50.


When is the last time you priced M1 syn oil at Wal-Mart in the qt bottle? Haven't seen $6.50 for over a year around here at the WM's.


$6.47 a qt. in these parts. I was in the WM in Bath, Me. last month and their prices were the same as here in the heartland.
 
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Originally Posted By: gfh77665

The constant "It's too expensive" refrain is an opinion, not a factual statement. If someone wanted to comment on TBN, or viscosity, etc., then have at it. All those who FEEL "It's too expensive" FOR THEM is stating no more than an personal opinion.




My point about $10/qt was meant in reference to other off-the-shelf oils. I agree it can be had much cheaper online, but at that point if I'm going through the trouble of ordering online there are still others I'd rather own.
 
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Capa
RP gear oil's have a good reputation, however, as so many have stated, their motor oil is overpriced (for most). Besides Walmart's 5 quart gallons Oreilly's, Auto Zone, Advanced Auto, etc will sell 5 quarts of synthetic oil with a real long drain oil liter for around $32, and those sales are going on at least every other month in one of those stores. How can a boutique oil compete with that? And then, of course, there is this:

http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_article001398592.cfm


Originally Posted By: Zako2
A quart of RP may be less than $1 more expensive than a quart of Mobil 1 or similar. However, no smart buyer buys Mobil 1/Castrol Edge/Synpower either in quarts or big jugs at auto parts store, unless it's on sale. When they're on sale, the quarts drop in price significantly, very much to big jug levels (per quart). RP on the other hand never seems to go on sale and is only available in quart bottles.


LOTS of people buy those synthetics in qt bottles. It may be because their sump takes less than 5 qts and they don't want to deal with the left over from a 5qt jug or many sumps take more than 5qts which requires a few qt bottles as well. Lots of people won't shop at Wal-Mart as well. The main point made was when comapring qt bottle costs RP is no more expensive than the others.


But that's not a relevant price comparison. Like I said, a smart shopper will buy quarts of synthetic oil when they're on sale. When they're on sale, it doesn't matter if he buys either quarts or jugs. The per quart cost will be the same, usually in the $5-6 range per quart. RP never seems to be on sale at auto parts stores.
 
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