Wow, I've changed the oil at 3000 regardless because I would rather spend the money now and have a car work forever than spend money later and have to buy a new engine. Sorry, maybe I just don't understand some things
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Originally Posted By: jtaylor
Wow, I've changed the oil at 3000 regardless because I would rather spend the money now and have a car work forever than spend money later and have to buy a new engine. Sorry, maybe I just don't understand some things
Dude, trust me on this one, no matter how long your engine lasts, that Accord's auto trans ain't gonna last past 150k miles no matter what you do to it or the rest of the car. Once that transmission grenades, try, just try to get it fixed and have it last another 50k before being fixed again. I know Honda auto transmissions and they do not last for anyone.
Honda is already having to replace auto transmissions on the 2008 Accords
Wow, I've changed the oil at 3000 regardless because I would rather spend the money now and have a car work forever than spend money later and have to buy a new engine. Sorry, maybe I just don't understand some things
Dude, trust me on this one, no matter how long your engine lasts, that Accord's auto trans ain't gonna last past 150k miles no matter what you do to it or the rest of the car. Once that transmission grenades, try, just try to get it fixed and have it last another 50k before being fixed again. I know Honda auto transmissions and they do not last for anyone.
Honda is already having to replace auto transmissions on the 2008 Accords
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Originally Posted By: Zedhed
Dude, trust me on this one, no matter how long your engine lasts, that Accord's auto trans ain't gonna last past 150k miles no matter what you do to it or the rest of the car. Once that transmission grenades, try, just try to get it fixed and have it last another 50k before being fixed again. I know Honda auto transmissions and they do not last for anyone.
Honda is already having to replace auto transmissions on the 2008 Accords
I agree. I mentioned this to him last night. If this were the same type of automatic transmission found in the Acura TL, that has the stick shift type gear selector and the option to switch gears like a manual that would be one thing. But this is the normal style Honda automatic transmission with 1, 2, D3, and D4. This type is definitely not meant to be switched between gears and revved out to 6500 rpms like he is doing. It's meant to be put on D4 and driven from there. If he had wanted a manual he should have got a manual.
Driving his transmission like this there is no way it will make it to 150k. I wouldn't be surprised if it grenades prior to 75k.
Dude, trust me on this one, no matter how long your engine lasts, that Accord's auto trans ain't gonna last past 150k miles no matter what you do to it or the rest of the car. Once that transmission grenades, try, just try to get it fixed and have it last another 50k before being fixed again. I know Honda auto transmissions and they do not last for anyone.
Honda is already having to replace auto transmissions on the 2008 Accords
I agree. I mentioned this to him last night. If this were the same type of automatic transmission found in the Acura TL, that has the stick shift type gear selector and the option to switch gears like a manual that would be one thing. But this is the normal style Honda automatic transmission with 1, 2, D3, and D4. This type is definitely not meant to be switched between gears and revved out to 6500 rpms like he is doing. It's meant to be put on D4 and driven from there. If he had wanted a manual he should have got a manual.
Driving his transmission like this there is no way it will make it to 150k. I wouldn't be surprised if it grenades prior to 75k.
Originally Posted By: jtaylor
Wow, I've changed the oil at 3000 regardless because I would rather spend the money now and have a car work forever than spend money later and have to buy a new engine. Sorry, maybe I just don't understand some things
As others have tried to tell you.
You are driving that car like a banshee from he!!, you can change the oil every day, and it ain't gonna do anything for you except lighten your pocket book.
It's a Honda automatic, you want to pretend it is some kind of hopped up ricer, go ahead. Your time, your money, and it is going to be your wreck of a car when you grenade the transmission.
In all honesty, do you really think that engine will last "forever"? If you really want the car to last, you are going to have to change your driving habits---- not the oil.
Save the money you are spending on oil and put it towards your new car you are going to need in a year or so.
Wow, I've changed the oil at 3000 regardless because I would rather spend the money now and have a car work forever than spend money later and have to buy a new engine. Sorry, maybe I just don't understand some things
As others have tried to tell you.
You are driving that car like a banshee from he!!, you can change the oil every day, and it ain't gonna do anything for you except lighten your pocket book.
It's a Honda automatic, you want to pretend it is some kind of hopped up ricer, go ahead. Your time, your money, and it is going to be your wreck of a car when you grenade the transmission.
In all honesty, do you really think that engine will last "forever"? If you really want the car to last, you are going to have to change your driving habits---- not the oil.
Save the money you are spending on oil and put it towards your new car you are going to need in a year or so.
jtaylor - Actually, it is not best to tell a service dept. what to fix.
Always tell the the symptoms in as full detail as you can. What conditions it occurs, simulate the sound, , etc..
Let them determine what is actually wrong.
This is smart for a bunch of reasons.
For instance, they won't put a new belt on because you mentioned a belt, and the original problem is still there.
Always tell the the symptoms in as full detail as you can. What conditions it occurs, simulate the sound, , etc..
Let them determine what is actually wrong.
This is smart for a bunch of reasons.
For instance, they won't put a new belt on because you mentioned a belt, and the original problem is still there.
Originally Posted By: twentynine
As others have tried to tell you.
You are driving that car like a banshee from he!!, you can change the oil every day, and it ain't gonna do anything for you except lighten your pocket book.
It's a Honda automatic, you want to pretend it is some kind of hopped up ricer, go ahead. Your time, your money, and it is going to be your wreck of a car when you grenade the transmission.
In all honesty, do you really think that engine will last "forever"? If you really want the car to last, you are going to have to change your driving habits---- not the oil.
Save the money you are spending on oil and put it towards your new car you are going to need in a year or so.
Don't get preachy. He's been very respectful thus far. No reason for you to be so patronizing and condescending.
As others have tried to tell you.
You are driving that car like a banshee from he!!, you can change the oil every day, and it ain't gonna do anything for you except lighten your pocket book.
It's a Honda automatic, you want to pretend it is some kind of hopped up ricer, go ahead. Your time, your money, and it is going to be your wreck of a car when you grenade the transmission.
In all honesty, do you really think that engine will last "forever"? If you really want the car to last, you are going to have to change your driving habits---- not the oil.
Save the money you are spending on oil and put it towards your new car you are going to need in a year or so.
Don't get preachy. He's been very respectful thus far. No reason for you to be so patronizing and condescending.
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Originally Posted By: twentynine
As others have tried to tell you.
You are driving that car like a banshee from he!!, you can change the oil every day, and it ain't gonna do anything for you except lighten your pocket book.
It's a Honda automatic, you want to pretend it is some kind of hopped up ricer, go ahead. Your time, your money, and it is going to be your wreck of a car when you grenade the transmission.
In all honesty, do you really think that engine will last "forever"? If you really want the car to last, you are going to have to change your driving habits---- not the oil.
Save the money you are spending on oil and put it towards your new car you are going to need in a year or so.
Don't get preachy. He's been very respectful thus far. No reason for you to be so patronizing and condescending.
Preaching? Nope!
Condesending? Nope!
Only doing what a few others have done.
Simply stating what should be a plain as the nose on your face. Mr Taylor is driving his vehicle in a manor that does not promote longevity, but yet he claims he wants the engine to last forever. Am I the only one that possibly sees a conflict in his ideas.
Look I had a son, got the kid a truck. When I gave him the truck on his 18th birthday, I told him it was his, to do what he wanted with it. Two years later he is complaining that the truck is a no good piece of trash. Well, when I asked him about the operation of said truck, his operation consisted of putting gas in the tank. That's it. I guess he expected me to foot the bill on repairs. Nope-- not one red cent. Frankly for what it is worth I thought it was a pretty good truck, two years no oil changes, two years same tires, two years same filters, two years same belts hoses and brakes. I think the truck would have lasted Lord only knows how long if it would have been given even moderate care, but it got nothing.
Now what does that have to do with Mr Taylor? Simply put, he doesn't have realistic expectations. He constantly over revs the engine, abuses the transmission, power turns, and on and on and on. And he has no idea that operating that vehicle in that manner will impact the mechanical integrity? But he is going to buy some spendy oil and fix all that!
Go on. Their was a story about a little girl, a wicked step mother and sisters, along with something about a slipper too. Fun story, but guess what it ain't true.
Originally Posted By: twentynine
As others have tried to tell you.
You are driving that car like a banshee from he!!, you can change the oil every day, and it ain't gonna do anything for you except lighten your pocket book.
It's a Honda automatic, you want to pretend it is some kind of hopped up ricer, go ahead. Your time, your money, and it is going to be your wreck of a car when you grenade the transmission.
In all honesty, do you really think that engine will last "forever"? If you really want the car to last, you are going to have to change your driving habits---- not the oil.
Save the money you are spending on oil and put it towards your new car you are going to need in a year or so.
Don't get preachy. He's been very respectful thus far. No reason for you to be so patronizing and condescending.
Preaching? Nope!
Condesending? Nope!
Only doing what a few others have done.
Simply stating what should be a plain as the nose on your face. Mr Taylor is driving his vehicle in a manor that does not promote longevity, but yet he claims he wants the engine to last forever. Am I the only one that possibly sees a conflict in his ideas.
Look I had a son, got the kid a truck. When I gave him the truck on his 18th birthday, I told him it was his, to do what he wanted with it. Two years later he is complaining that the truck is a no good piece of trash. Well, when I asked him about the operation of said truck, his operation consisted of putting gas in the tank. That's it. I guess he expected me to foot the bill on repairs. Nope-- not one red cent. Frankly for what it is worth I thought it was a pretty good truck, two years no oil changes, two years same tires, two years same filters, two years same belts hoses and brakes. I think the truck would have lasted Lord only knows how long if it would have been given even moderate care, but it got nothing.
Now what does that have to do with Mr Taylor? Simply put, he doesn't have realistic expectations. He constantly over revs the engine, abuses the transmission, power turns, and on and on and on. And he has no idea that operating that vehicle in that manner will impact the mechanical integrity? But he is going to buy some spendy oil and fix all that!
Go on. Their was a story about a little girl, a wicked step mother and sisters, along with something about a slipper too. Fun story, but guess what it ain't true.
Well to be fair, I think Mr Taylor is just a little confused and mis-informed about car maintenance and has bought in to the "magical lubricating elixir" myth that gets passed around so many shops and garages. We all want to know what's in the oil we use, but just for the ability to choose an oil that suits our actual needs (not wants) We also don't want to pay for something (boutique oils) that can be had more cheaply. He has accepted the myth that an engine can last indefinitely given a high enough quality oil and OCIs. He is not alone in this type of thinking...
Car maintenance should take the whole vehicle into consideration not just the engine. For most cars, replacing the engine in not the worst-case scenario. Nicely re-manufactured engines can be had for reasonable prices. I try to ensure the engine will last for it's intended life span, but expect that eventually I will have to repair or replace it.
Import automatic transmissions? That is another story altogether.....
Car maintenance should take the whole vehicle into consideration not just the engine. For most cars, replacing the engine in not the worst-case scenario. Nicely re-manufactured engines can be had for reasonable prices. I try to ensure the engine will last for it's intended life span, but expect that eventually I will have to repair or replace it.
Import automatic transmissions? That is another story altogether.....
What is the story on "import autos"?
Interested to hear.
Interested to hear.
Seafoam in the crankcase of a new car? Why???????? Have you taken this advice from the people on acurazine? There is no reason to run this on a new car or a car that's been treated right ever. Running a solvent in the oil is bad.
I'm also not a fan of RP but to be fair I would say there's a 99.9% chance it's not the oil that's making the car run rough.
I'm also not a fan of RP but to be fair I would say there's a 99.9% chance it's not the oil that's making the car run rough.
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Originally Posted By: biodiesel
Originally Posted By: cchase
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression this was a 2008 Accord V6, not a BMW. I think he was saying that it sound(ed/s) like a BMW V8 to him.
You're not wrong, we're just seeing how many BITOG'ers have issues with reading comprehension.
I do have to admit that I have always had problems understanding the English language, especially when it is written so poorly.
the other person wrote:
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but now its starting to sound more like an american v8 rather than the precise v8 of the M3 that it usually sounds like.
He/She never specifically states the make or model of the vehicle. The only thing that gives some clue is the above comment about the M3 V8. He says "but now its starting to sound more like an american v8 rather than the precise v8 of the M3 that it usually sounds like." Why would someone compare a V6 to either an American or German V8?
Personally I think most American V8s (definately not all) have a distinct rumble while foreign V8s or I should specify, high output car V8s have a higher pitched smoother sound. I like both but prefer American any day.
However, the Honda V6 sounding like a V8? No way, not with any exhaust or intake. People equate loudness or a deep tone to a V8 which is not correct.
Originally Posted By: biodiesel
Originally Posted By: cchase
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression this was a 2008 Accord V6, not a BMW. I think he was saying that it sound(ed/s) like a BMW V8 to him.
You're not wrong, we're just seeing how many BITOG'ers have issues with reading comprehension.
I do have to admit that I have always had problems understanding the English language, especially when it is written so poorly.
the other person wrote:
Quote:
but now its starting to sound more like an american v8 rather than the precise v8 of the M3 that it usually sounds like.
He/She never specifically states the make or model of the vehicle. The only thing that gives some clue is the above comment about the M3 V8. He says "but now its starting to sound more like an american v8 rather than the precise v8 of the M3 that it usually sounds like." Why would someone compare a V6 to either an American or German V8?
Personally I think most American V8s (definately not all) have a distinct rumble while foreign V8s or I should specify, high output car V8s have a higher pitched smoother sound. I like both but prefer American any day.
However, the Honda V6 sounding like a V8? No way, not with any exhaust or intake. People equate loudness or a deep tone to a V8 which is not correct.
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