Royal Purple Roughness?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression this was a 2008 Accord V6, not a BMW. I think he was saying that it sound(ed/s) like a BMW V8 to him.

As far as "reasonable OCI", I think something else is at work here. With 15k on the motor, I'd be inclined to think you could have done no oil changes on a Honda motor and you wouldn't need Seafoam to clean it out...
 
I too am suspicious of the original poster. Don't forget the V-8 as we all know is an American thing and they have all sounded good no matter what vehicle they are in. For him to compare some foreign V-8 to an American V-8 when it appears he does not own either is ridiculous. Maybe he ought to enlighten the rest of us, as a honda v-6 doesn't sound anywhere as good as an American V-8, no way, no how.
 
Originally Posted By: cchase
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression this was a 2008 Accord V6, not a BMW. I think he was saying that it sound(ed/s) like a BMW V8 to him.


You're not wrong, we're just seeing how many BITOG'ers have issues with reading comprehension.
 
Originally Posted By: D Bone
It's gotta be Royal Purple's fault. As it usually is...........On here anyway.

No one ever said that except maybe the OP in his speculations.

A few people have rightly advised him to reserve judgment. The comments about changing the oil were because of the Seafoam he added. The only reason we're talking about other oils is that the OP wants to switch and we see no reason for him not to, because we have no dog in that hunt.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: D Bone
It's gotta be Royal Purple's fault. As it usually is...........On here anyway.

No one ever said that except maybe the OP in his speculations.


Doesn't matter. RP is a fine oil that has been unmercifully, senselessly bashed here repeatedly. Common knowledge.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
And that has exactly what to do with this thread?


Ummmm, seems to me if RP can be blamed (see title) in this thread, RP can be defended, too. Isn't that how an open discussion forum works?
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
And that has exactly what to do with this thread?


Everything,look at the title,Royal Purple is part of the subject line.
 
You buy an expensive high performance vehicle than you put two different kinds of crud in the engine
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Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Ummmm, seems to me if RP can be blamed (see title) in this thread, RP can be defended, too. Isn't that how an open discussion forum works?

Originally Posted By: DragRace
Everything,look at the title,Royal Purple is part of the subject line.

Oh, okay. So you mean you read the title but didn't bother to read the thread before responding?
 
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
1st of all you have hurt NOTHING running the Seafoam in your oil. NOTHING!!!!!! It is 100% safe to do that. It is not a harsh solvent that is going to hurt your gaskets or seals. Yes, it is a type of solvent but it is 100% petroleum based and is 100% safe for use in the crankcase. OMG some people on this site just talk without a clue. I have run Seafoam in my vehicle's crankcases for YEARS for everything from a moisture remover, to freeing stuck lifters, to a flush in dirty engines. It has hurt NOTHING!

I actually use it before every OC in my current vehicle( 2008 5.7L HEMI Ram ). Just so happens that means it is added to RP 5W-20 like you. I do it because it helps remove moisture. The PCV system design on my vehicle stinks and leads to a lot of condensation in the crankcase. Even running it to full operating temp doesn't get it all out( winter anyway ). The Seafoam helps a lot with this issue for me.

Seafoam is an excellent product as is the RP oil. neither by themseleves being added should cause your engine to run rough. Actually, RP is probably the best oil I have ever used for making engines smoother as a rule. How many miles on this vehicle? What kind of maintenance was done on it prior to this fill of RP? Are you the original owner or did you get it used? Is it possible it was not maintaned well and has a lot of miles? If so maybe the RP dissolved a lot of crud in there and has overloaded the oil filter and effected oil flow which can make it feel like the engine is running rough.

About all I can think of. Neither the RP nor Seafoam should be causing a rough condition? I would suggest changing the oil and filter right away however. Not because you have caused harm with the Seafoam or because the RP is a bad oil but because it sounds like it is needed now. Check out the oil real good for any chunks and gobs of goo and compare the weight of the filter you take off( drain what oil you can )to the new one to see if the old filter is really heavy by comparison( which means it is loaded up! ). Try the Ultra you are interested in and see how it does. Sounds like a good plan.

If things still do not smooth out I would look for issues other than oil or additives.


lol, ok, RP with Seafoam, gotcha.

If RP is so great, why do you need to use Seafoam all the time?

Is Seafoam tested for seal compatibility, outside of the ocean?

It's widely known here that solvents, just like fuel, in the engine physically and chemically damages the oil permanently.

The SF you added has long boiled off, spreading any dissloved sludge around. with it.

I can't believe this junk is sold with a labeled use that is so bad for engines.


Man you are a hoot. I knew there was a good reason I had you on the ignore list. Thanks to the member who PM'd me to let me know about this post.

I specifically explained why I ran the Seafoam in general( variety of reasons )but no where did I say I used it ALL the time in every vehicle I run RP in. To the contrary I don't use it in the crankcase with RP, or anyother brand, unless something outside of the oil's influcence or a problem arises which makes me do so. I mentioned running it with RP simply because currently I am doing so and that is the specific situation the OP posted about. I could discuss both aspects of his concern. Can you say the same or are you just here to spout off rhetoric?

My comments about running Seafoam in my crankcases for years was a simple general statement that I have used the product a lot over the years in my own vehicles with no harm. It was not meant to imply I use it every OC in every vehicle. It was meant to let the Op know he was ok and had not done any harm by running it that way. Your interpretation was far too literal. Based on your history with me I would say it was probably intentional just to try and discrdit my post.

I have run it in my own personal vehicles, family vehicles I care for, and in vehicles where I am helping the owner( friend as a rule )out. Most times it is where the other owners less than ideal OCI's have lead to issues or say in a newly purchased used vehicle with an unknown maintenance history. That is an assumption on your part that every use involves RP in the crankcase.

I am currently using Seafoam to remove moisture that builds up in my 08 Ram due to a poor PCV system( well known issue with Chrysler 4.7L and 5.7L ). Yes, I am running RP in it as well. Doesn't matter what oil you use though they are all at risk in that type of situation. What automotive oil removes moisture in the crankcase on it's own? They don't. Introduce moisture to ANY oil in your engine's crankcase and it is an issue that needs attention.

RP does a great job for me when asked to do what oils are meant to do. Can't ask it to do something it can't do. The Seafoam helps to remove the moisture build up in the crankcase/engine( which is really bad during the colder months which I mentioned as well ). When I don't use Seafoam I get the goo all around the oil fill tube and under the VC that is the common issue with these engines. Not RP's fault and nothing any oil can do about it either. When I add some Seafoam 50 miles or so before an OC it cleans it out.

You don't have to like it or like RP either but clearly you don't use either so why would you try and discredit someone else's experience and knowledge who actually uses them? Seems odd to me? Also, please show me your proof that Seafoam is "so bad for engines" as you claim? There are countless testimonials on this site alone, never mind the countless auto forums around the internet, from people who have used it with great success and NO damage done. Where is your data supporting your vitriol that it is bad other than assumptions and misguided opinion?
 
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Originally Posted By: biodiesel
Originally Posted By: cchase
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression this was a 2008 Accord V6, not a BMW. I think he was saying that it sound(ed/s) like a BMW V8 to him.


You're not wrong, we're just seeing how many BITOG'ers have issues with reading comprehension.



I do have to admit that I have always had problems understanding the English language, especially when it is written so poorly.

the other person wrote:
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but now its starting to sound more like an american v8 rather than the precise v8 of the M3 that it usually sounds like.


He/She never specifically states the make or model of the vehicle. The only thing that gives some clue is the above comment about the M3 V8. He says "but now its starting to sound more like an american v8 rather than the precise v8 of the M3 that it usually sounds like." Why would someone compare a V6 to either an American or German V8?
 
It was my understanding that an engines roughness has more to do with balance (which could be caused by some mechanical failure or something as simple as a cylinder not firing). I can't even fathom how oil would directly vause an engine to run rough, especially one of the correct viscosity and that meets the standards for the engine.
 
The original poster experienced roughness, which may or not be RP related .
If it is RP related, 20 guys who says RP is great won't change that.
 
ok, first of all, i think my car sounds like a v8 because it's got an intake and an exhaust, and at full throttle, its pretty throaty.
second, i'm not bashing royal purple, seafoam, or anything, or anyone, all that was going on was concern for my car because I was worried that maybe the product didn't agree with MY car.
finally, one more question, on some cold mornings, I start the car, and it starts fine, but before the engine is completely cranked and independent of the starter motor, there is a squeeking sound, almost like there is no lube on some of the parts. can there be something going on? or does that just happen sometimes?
 
Originally Posted By: jtaylor
ok, first of all, i think my car sounds like a v8 because it's got an intake and an exhaust, and at full throttle, its pretty throaty.
second, i'm not bashing royal purple, seafoam, or anything, or anyone, all that was going on was concern for my car because I was worried that maybe the product didn't agree with MY car.
finally, one more question, on some cold mornings, I start the car, and it starts fine, but before the engine is completely cranked and independent of the starter motor, there is a squeeking sound, almost like there is no lube on some of the parts. can there be something going on? or does that just happen sometimes?


Using 5w20 in Southern Cal I doubt it gets cold enough to be
oil related.
 
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