Royal Purple 5w40

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Decided to change oil in my dad's MB E350 since it hit 1000 miles and I like to change the factory filled oil right after it hits the magical 1000 mile mark.

Filled it with 8 quarts Royal Purple 5w40 and a K&N HP-7004 fleece filter(rebranded Mann filter made in Germany)

Dad didn't know I changed the oil since he had to fly out for a reunion. He came back yesterday and called me to ask me if I did anything to the car. I told him that I just changed the oil in his car just to get the factory fill out.

First he gave me a riot act for changing out the factory fill because he is very frugal and stingy and even though I bought the oil and filter and I don't charge him for anything but oh well.

Secondly, he mentioned that the car ran much quieter and smoother now than before the change, hence him calling me to find out so he can continue doing whatever I had done to his car. His exact words to me were that it felt like he was driving on "glass"

Now my dad is not a car "guy" For example, his last car had pinging issues and he was completely oblivious to it. When I asked him why he had not mentioned the pinging to me, he looked at me awkwardly and asked "What is pinging?". So, for him to notice this with just a change in motor oil, I tend to lean towards not being just a placebo effect plus he didn't even know I did an oil change.

I decided to do some googling about Royal Purple motor oil experiences and discussions and to my overwhelming surprise, I found a lot of people on other car forums having the same reactions as my dads. They also noticed that the car ran quieter and smoother after the royal purple oil change than ever before. Maybe there is some truth to this rather than just a placebo effect? What say you guys?

BTW, even though I took my dad's car for a spin after the oil change, I can't say if it ran smoother or better because I have not driven his car extensively to form an opinion about it.
 
It seems that Royal Purple understand that this is how oil sells rather than the used oil analysis and stuff we tend to like here.
 
It has always been my experience with RP that it makes an engine smoother and quieter.
 
I don't know what's worse, the RP or the gauze dirt ingesting filter.

Of course a brand new car gets smoother - it is called breaking in.
 
Originally Posted By: BobFout
Different oils do transmit / muffle sound differently. Was there any butt dyno difference?

Next oil change, RP 0w40 may be a better choice as it meets A3/B3-
04. https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/royal-purple-0w-40-any-thoughts.94675/


I am not the DD of this car so I can't really answer the butt dyno difference but my dad's butt dyno radar did go off hence letting me know that he really likes the glass smoothness he has experienced so far.

I was going to use the Royal Purple 0w40 but instead I went with 5w40 because I have always been a "thick" oil guy. BTW, the 5w40 also meets/exceeds ACEA A3/B3 according to the bottle and the Chris at RP tech hotline.
 
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
I don't know what's worse, the RP or the gauze dirt ingesting filter.

Of course a brand new car gets smoother - it is called breaking in.


Mechtech, the K&N filter is actually just a rebranded Mann filter. Right on the K&N filter it also has a "Made in Germany" stamp. I got the K&N because it was cheaper by $5 dollars. These filters normally sell for $17 dollars. All the used oil analysis I have seen with the Mann filters the insolubles have always been insanely low around 0.1 or 0.2.

Why don't you like the RP oil? I know a lot of the used oil analysis on RP are mediocre or poor but I really don't put a lot of weight on them any more.
 
I'm 7200 miles into an OCI with RP. I've always been a M1 fan but have tried different oils and always said I never felt a difference with any. Until now, RP really feels smoother. I may just use up my M1 stash next couple of OCIs then stick with RP.
 
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
I don't know what's worse, the RP or the gauze dirt ingesting filter.

Of course a brand new car gets smoother - it is called breaking in.


Have you ever driven a vehicle that was swapped over to RP for the 1st time? If not then how can you say it it is due to break in only? Also your RP bias is once again showing.
 
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
I was using RP 15w40 and it was not smooth compared to the QTP 10w30 in now. Big difference.


Compare 15w40 to 15w40 not 10w30. Thinner oil will make it feel smoother.
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Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
It has always been my experience with RP that it makes an engine smoother and quieter.


That blanket statement does not answer this guy's concerns or questions. It's obvious you're a big RP user and that's fine, but let's be objective in our discussions here.
 
Cars always run smoother immediately following an oil change. The effect wears off fairly quickly though.

Also, we have no clue what oil was in there before so right now we're comparing apples to nothing.
 
Originally Posted By: dparm

That blanket statement does not answer this guy's concerns or questions. It's obvious you're a big RP user and that's fine, but let's be objective in our discussions here.


HUH?? What you talikin bout Willis???

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I decided to do some googling about Royal Purple motor oil experiences and discussions and to my overwhelming surprise, I found a lot of people on other car forums having the same reactions as my dads. They also noticed that the car ran quieter and smoother after the royal purple oil change than ever before. Maybe there is some truth to this rather than just a placebo effect? What say you guys?


#1 - I don't see where he has any "concerns". He wasn't asking if using RP in his Dad's car was going to hurt anything.

#2 - My answer to his question of "what say you" was "It has always been my experience with RP that it makes an engine smoother and quieter."

Not sure what you think an appropriate answer would have been? I was simply confirming that what his Dad experienced mirrors what I do each time I swap a vehicle over to RP. I believe I actually did respond to his question based on my personal experience with RP over the years in many, many, different applications.

Doesn't matter what vehicle I have swapped over to RP I have noticed it runs smoother and quieter with it vs the other brands used in the vehicle. Those brands range from factory fills( GM, Chyrsler, Ford ) to Pennzoil to Valvoline to Quaker State to Castrol to Amalie to Wolf's Head to Kendall and even some others I have probably forgot. conventional and synthetic varieties as well.

Am I not being objective because I said something positive about RP and I have stated before I like it? One of the reasons I like it so much, and have stated many times, is how smooth and quiet it makes the engine. I am very objective because I have used it and seen the results 1st hand. I can't say the same for many on this site.
 
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My car is running super on RP 0w40 now. Closing in on 2k mi on it. Have no complaints at all. Seems a very good oil. Got it on the O'Reilly's special w/ K&N filter so price was good. Once it goes on sale again, I will definitely be stocking up on it. After this run I'm going to run a run of Castrol Edge 5w30 and see if my car likes it as much as the other cars in my sig that I ran it on. But RP did not dissapoint. Butt dyno did feel like I've gained a bit of power, but since that's not real evidence, I just mention it in passing.
 
NNHEMI,would you happen to know or be able to find out what is the pour point of Royal Purple 0W-40?

I must say I have never seen any 0WXX oil with such a high flash point. RP's flash point for 0W-40 is 465F! unheard of really!
 
Contact RP tech support and ask. I am sure they would tell you. I have no clue, sorry.
 
Happy RP user here :^) I always buy it by the case and it comes out to only $6 a quart. Cheapest pao oil I`ve ever seen! Car runs smooth as glass on it,especially when I put my foot in it. I`m very pleased with it and it will probably the only oil I`ll ever use.
 
FWIW, I am not and have never been convinced that an engine can objectively be considered "smoother" on one brand or another, assuming all other factors equal. I experience all the post-OC "warm fuzzies" but if I put my mind into Vulcan mode, I an't tell one oil from antother. I can concede you MIGHT be able to tell a heavier oil from a lighter one or new oil from old oil (still not totally convinced either) but I'd be very surprised if there is some objective means of telling one 5W40 from another by "smoothness." That's such an indefinite and subjective word anyway, as applied to engines.
 
I thought the same thing till I used RP. But there's nothing wrong with a little subjectiveness. We're not competing for the Nobel prize in Tribology.
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