Originally Posted by john_pifer
Originally Posted by GumbyJarvis
Originally Posted by john_pifer
Originally Posted by bubbatime
I dont think you read what I wrote. Lets try this again. A Turkish made gun that will be obsolete and out of production in 3 years, and impossible to find parts for in 5-7 years, and will be a dead non working boat anchor in someones closet in 10 years.
Or, spend less money, and get a Mossberg 930. They generally work. They have factory support. You can get parts for it 25 years from now. I'd still prefer a Beretta, Benelli, or maybe even the new Remington V3, a Benelli clone.
If you want a Turkish made, cheap semi auto, then get one. For $250. Not almost $700, like the VR80.
https://grabagun.com/firearms/shotguns/semi-automatic-shotguns/armscor-88.html
An actual shotgun, from an actual shotgun company, if on a budget...
https://grabagun.com/mossberg-930-tact-12-18-5-3-matte-8-1.html?source=igodigital
Admittedly I don't have experience with this particular shotgun, but I have to say, from what I know about the Turkish gun industry, it's not going anywhere any time soon.
In general, the Turkish gun companies are putting out good products for good prices.
I would say if someone was interested in getting one, prices will probably drop a bit, eventually, as they always do.
Not to get political, but ongoing relations with Turkey could lead to export/import sanctions later on, making it even harder to get parts.
Why not something out of the Remmington 870/Mossberg 500 family?
Maverick 88 if on a budget.
I'd recommend the 500 Persuader
If you insist on magazine feed, get a 590M which is cheaper and 10round capacity.
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsupers...mp-action-shotgun-with-10-round-magazine
You need to re-read what the OP said.
He looked at one, in person. He said the build quality and fit/finish is very good.
Have you held one, yourself?
He also said it won't be used primarily for self-defense purposes - it'll be mostly for fun.
I'm quite sure if he wanted a conventional, vanilla-flavored shotgun like everybody and their brother have, he'd buy one. Pretty sure he already has at least one conventional shotgun, as this isn't a shotgun most would buy as their first shotgun.
As far as replacement parts, this is distributed through Rock Island Armory, which is a reputable company in the Philippines, a US protectorate. So, I'm sure they're going to make sure parts are available.
OP - Get one! I'm sure it'll be a heck of a lot of fun! Let us know how you like it and post a review.
thank you...
nope, not my fist shot gun, and not my last. Will I use it for home defense...no, will I use it for hunting...most likely, no...will it save my life, probably not...will it be a ton of fun...YES, and will it kill zombies...YES!
OK, I had to kid. Honestly, the feedback is good. I am again just looking for a toy. I work with a ton of friends who don't experience the liberties that we have (for now)(they are foreign), and I love to shoot at my house and take advantage of the freedom I do have for now. I was looking for another way to spread the joy of America and the freedom we have in firearms.
I was just looking to see if anybody on this forum had experience with this firearm...