RLI Oil Order Arrived

[AEHaas]

‘Just got my shipment of 0W20 and 0W30 Renewable Lubricants motor oils. I was initially attracted to them because of their fluidity at room temperature. When I unpacked the first gallon jug I thought is was apple juice, just a little darker but certainly no thicker. You guys should certainly check this stuff out. The numbers look good to me. It reminds me of Red Line oils with higher flash points and higher HTHS than other oils within the same grade. The density is 0.88 as well. I cannot wait to pour this water into my cars.

aehaas

 

[SubLGT]

Which vehicles will get what viscosity?

 

[AEHaas]

Lamborghini Murcielago 20 grade, Ferrari Enzo 30 grade.

 

[Greggy_D]

Intriguing.

I checked out their website and motor oils (the website could use a little more work to make it more "order" friendly).

I may give the 0w-20 a whirl in my Mazda 3i. While the oil may seem a bit pricey, I've spent more money on ugly women.

My question is.....do you think these oils can go 5000 miles in city/highway driving?

 

[SubLGT]

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Lamborghini Murcielago 20 grade, Ferrari Enzo 30 grade.

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Did your previous UOAs for these 2 cars show high fuel dilution?

 

[AEHaas]

"Did your previous UOAs for these 2 cars show high fuel dilution?"

From an earlier post, see below. The fuel was 3.5 % at 3,000 miles but went down to 1 % at 4,000 miles sampling the same oil. It was not changed. Just before taking the sample at 4,000 miles I went for a few hour drive at up to 90 MPH:


Oil analysis for 2003 Ferrari 575 Maranello:

The Ferrari was delivered with Shell Helix Ultra 5w30. At 775 miles on 23 May 2003 the oil was changed to 0w30 Mobil 1. At 2,250 miles on 14 November 2003 the oil was changed to 0W-20 Mobil 1. With 5,300 miles on the car, and 3,000 mile on this fill of 0W-20 I sent in a sample for analysis. The original oil tested was from a left over bottle from the original Mobil 1 oil cases. So it is of the same age as the oil in the engine. No additional oil was added to the car. The next sample was at 4,000 miles on Mar 19, ‘05.

__________New __________Ferrari_______
______0W-20 Mobil 1 ___With 3,000 Mi __With 4,000 Mi on the oil
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Iron__________ Chromium _____ Nickel ________ Aluminum ______3__________10___________9
lead __________ Copper ________ Tin ___________ Silver ________ Titanium ______ Silicon ________4___________10__________8
Boron ________247_________220_________178
Sodium _______15__________15__________15
Potassium ____ Molybdenum __ 164_________141_________86
Phosphorus __1375________ 1353________1243
Zinc ________ 1328________1313________1169
Calcium _____ 3456________3143________2742
Barium ______ Magnesium ____53_________154_________111
Antimony _____ Vanadium _____ Fuel %Vol _____0__________3.5__________1.0
Abs Oxid ______?__________48__________28
Abs Nitr _______?__________13__________4
Wtr %vol ______0_________ Vis CS 100C ___9.0________8.1 _________8.3
SAE Grade ____20_________20 __________20
Gly test ______NEG_______NEG _________NEG
TBN _________9.87_______not done_____not done

I tested my oil using this company, I do recommend them: www.youroil.net
Go to this page and download this Excel file to see other peoples results: http://members.rennlist.com/oil/

aehaas

 

[benjamming]

No flashpoint? How do they determine fuel %? FTIR?

 

[RI_RS4]

Ali, that's great. I'm looking forward to hearing your experience with apple juice in the Lambo.

 

[Brian Barnhart]

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The fuel was 3.5 % at 3,000 miles but went down to 1 % at 4,000 miles sampling the same oil. It was not changed. Just before taking the sample at 4,000 miles I went for a few hour drive at up to 90 MPH:

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Is it a good idea to stress an engine (a few hour drive at high speed) with that level of fuel dilution in the oil?

 

[RI_RS4]

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The fuel was 3.5 % at 3,000 miles but went down to 1 % at 4,000 miles sampling the same oil. It was not changed. Just before taking the sample at 4,000 miles I went for a few hour drive at up to 90 MPH:

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Is it a good idea to stress an engine (a few hour drive at high speed) with that level of fuel dilution in the oil?

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It's not a bad idea to cook off the fuel in the oil that way. 90 mph in that car is hardly a stress. Knowing Ali, he was probably running at 10% of full power at any time.

What his experience does show is that worst case fuel dilution can often be much worse than what is sampled, if the sample is taken after the engine has been run on the road for a while. Stop and go driving is just the worst for these sorts of engines.

 

[02zx9r]

So is the Renewable Lubricants oil is mostly for high performance cars and not toyota corollas or cars like that?

 

[double vanos]

Did anybody notice on the members/rennlist that Mobil 1 seemed to do poorly, while GC showed out quite well?

Also, it looks like (to me at least) that the thicker oils seem to hold up better.

Zipping up flame retardant suit.....

 

[Dr_No]

Most think that mobil 1 sucks (exempt daman) due to !SLIGHTLY ! higher iron wear.

IMO they have a great base oil, and add pack.
I dont need the benefits of mobil 1 in my engine though, so i'll stick with cheaper oils

 

[DmanWho]

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So is the Renewable Lubricants oil is mostly for high performance cars and not toyota corollas or cars like that?

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We received a gallon of RLI 5w30 for our economical Suzuki... The almost $20 bucks in shipping, is only lightly offset by the "Environmentally Responsible" label.

Having the Dr. run the same oil in a Ferrari and Lamborghini, that's priceless...

 

[SargeGTO]

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Intriguing.

I checked out their website and motor oils (the website could use a little more work to make it more "order" friendly).

I may give the 0w-20 a whirl in my Mazda 3i. While the oil may seem a bit pricey, I've spent more money on ugly women.

My question is.....do you think these oils can go 5000 miles in city/highway driving?

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Did you use Mobil1 on them ugly women? That is the problem. The high iron in Mobil1 results in ugliness. I use 5 beers and 3 shots of tequila to make the high iron results of Mobil1 on ugly women "dissapear". And FYI....More NASCAR Teams use Mobil1 on their women than any other oil. Seen many of them pit crew wifes lately? I rest my case.

 

[Greggy_D]

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Seen many of them pit crew wifes lately? I rest my case.

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Yes I have. Back in the 90's they were a bit better than now. We used Valvoline.

 

[SargeGTO]

Which on is your wife? We need to talk.

 

[Greggy_D]

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Which on is your wife? We need to talk.

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LOL...not the chunky one.