RIP 2012 Hyundai Sonata engine 101k miles

[wemay]

OP, sorry to hear and hopefully Hyundai takes care of this for you.

2011-2014
Recall for metal shavings left during engine machining process at Alabama plant. If you took your car in, they'd check and replace engine if necessary. Along with that, all vins identified as having possible issue get 120,000 mile engine warranty. As in all these threads, people (some) have a tendency to knee-jerk opinions. I have close to 100k on my wife's Santa Fe Sport, same engine, not a single issue. But that last sentance is just as anecdotal. Forums always magnify issues.

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: caprice_2nv


I did a lot of research on the problem since my girlfriend has one of these. It could very well be a design problem and the replacement engines are just as likely to fail eventually.


This would be news to me. Could you please share this information/research?

 

[JLTD]

Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Originally Posted By: JLTD
Bummer. I had one as a rental, didn't like the way the trans shifted at very slow speeds into high gears and lugged the engine...this is what happens I guess!


Must be CAFE/Obama's fault. LOL


What are you getting at here?

 

[Lolvoguy]

Still relieved the MIL totalled off her 2011 Sonata (I purchased for her) shortly after the recall.

Thing is, even when they perform the recall, all the dealer does is look for signs of oil burning.
If none are present, they'll simply change the dipstick (

what that's supposed to do?!?!?) and send you on your way.

 

[bullwinkle]

Originally Posted By: JLTD
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Originally Posted By: JLTD
Bummer. I had one as a rental, didn't like the way the trans shifted at very slow speeds into high gears and lugged the engine...this is what happens I guess!


Must be CAFE/Obama's fault. LOL


What are you getting at here?
I think he's referring to the shift mapping on these, much like my Transit 250-PCM wants to upshift into as high a gear as possible, as quickly as possible, then start lugging the engine to attempt to improve MPG.

 

[caprice_2nv]

I got the information from several threads on Hyundaiforums.com. There were a few Hyundai techs posting in there that have been doing a lot of the engine replacements. They don't seem to think the problem is over exaggerated or that Hyundai's story about the machining debris has any truth to it. I made a post on here asking about this issue and someone here posted a link.

Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: caprice_2nv


I did a lot of research on the problem since my girlfriend has one of these. It could very well be a design problem and the replacement engines are just as likely to fail eventually.


This would be news to me. Could you please share this information/research?

 

[Danno]

Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Still relieved the MIL totalled off her 2011 Sonata (I purchased for her) shortly after the recall.

Thing is, even when they perform the recall, all the dealer does is look for signs of oil burning.
If none are present, they'll simply change the dipstick (

what that's supposed to do?!?!?) and send you on your way.


The procedure is the dealer listens for a low end knock and that indicates a crank bearing issue. Issue found, long block is replaced.
The dipsticks are changed to either orange, meaning the car has been checked, no issue found and the dipstick is calibrated to allow more oil capacity in the sump.
The red dipstick means the engine has been replaced, again with more sump oil capacity calibration.

I had a 2013 2.4L Sonata so I was quite interested in the recall. Great car, too bad it was totalled in a collision.

 

[caprice_2nv]

Sorry it's Hyundai-forums.com

 

[2strokeNorthstar]

Orange dipstick was already installed. That is obviously not a fix. Oil changes done at dealer. Warranty on affected vehicles extended to 10yes 120k miles. Loaner / rental is authorized or reimbursed. Only after repair is authorized under recall which is sort of a drag. They wouldn't give one at the dealer on drop off. Completely obvious the motor is finished but have to jump through the hoops.
I don't see how a motor will last 100k miles and die from debris that should have been long flushed out with overly conservative oil changes especially. Automatics lugging the motor especially in ECO mode might be a contributor I think. I wonder if manuals are less likely to die??

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: caprice_2nv
I got the information from several threads on Hyundaiforums.com. There were a few Hyundai techs posting in there that have been doing a lot of the engine replacements. They don't seem to think the problem is over exaggerated or that Hyundai's story about the machining debris has any truth to it. I made a post on here asking about this issue and someone here posted a link.

Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: caprice_2nv


I did a lot of research on the problem since my girlfriend has one of these. It could very well be a design problem and the replacement engines are just as likely to fail eventually.


This would be news to me. Could you please share this information/research?


Ok got it. Thanks for the reply.
Again, i don't take forums all that seriously as they magnify issues and bring out "haters". For instance, the Hyundai forums i visit (being an owner of several Hyundai now) don't make this out to be a widespread issue. I'm acquainted with the service mgr at the Hyundai dealership i sometimes visit (our wives are neighborhood friends) and he hasn't seen a spate of engine replacements.

 

[Wolf359]

Originally Posted By: JLTD
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Originally Posted By: JLTD
Bummer. I had one as a rental, didn't like the way the trans shifted at very slow speeds into high gears and lugged the engine...this is what happens I guess!


Must be CAFE/Obama's fault. LOL


What are you getting at here?


I think he was just blaming the president in power at the time. Like you can blame WWII on Roosevelt.

The new CAFE standards did get passed in 2008. But then again, many other manufacturers also met it and didn't have engine problems so you can't really blame CAFE or Obama, just Hyundai.

 

[MONKEYMAN]

Food for thought:

Hyundai's GDI engine was a problem from the beginning

Hope it works out.

 

[HeritageHighRoof]

The only person I know who owns a Hyundai/Kia, just had their 2013 Sorento 2.4L engine replaced at 99K. Driving along, engine starts making noise and stalls. Metal on dipstick.

 

[NormanBuntz]

I didn't think the turbo engines were included in the Hyundai/Kia extended warranty. I thought it was only the 2.4L engines.

 

[THORROMIG]

Hope the engine replacement works out for you. Crazy -- Hyundai motors with less than 100,000 miles shot!! How many Honda and Toyota motors do you ever hear about on that??? Heck, my Acura is just broken in I feel with 103,xxx miles. LOL


Dale

 

[fdcg27]

I'd be a little irritated, but as long as Hyundai steps up to the plate and gives the car a new engine, there really isn't any serious cause for complaint, especially if Hyundai will also comp a rental.
Consider that many Asian, Euro and North American makers would simply tell you so sorry with an out of warranty engine failure and the dealer would quote you a new long block installed.
While engines shouldn't die after a mere 100K, it seems generous of Hyundai to accept responsibility and replace them without charge.
Makes me think maybe I should be shopping Hyundai/Kia in the future.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: racin4ds
Just out of curiosity what oil did you primarily use in this car? What weight?


I'm curious about this too. Apologies if this has already been answered and I missed it reading the thread.

 

[4WD]

KORUS

 

[KrisZ]

It's good that Hyundai will install a new engine,but hardly considered a huge favor. Also, lets hope that the new one is good for more than 100k.

 

[SumpChump]

Originally Posted By: BAJA_05
Hope the engine replacement works out for you. Crazy -- Hyundai motors with less than 100,000 miles shot!! How many Honda and Toyota motors do you ever hear about on that??? Heck, my Acura is just broken in I feel with 103,xxx miles. LOL


Dale


True. This makes me feel better about my 2008 Scion xb with the Toyota 2.4 L that drinks oil she’s got 145,000 miles on her still going drinking away.