Retail slow down.

I can’t even find a parking spot half the time at the mall closest to me. Some malls have gone to almost no5ing, others are packed. I don’t quite understand it. Often the stores are the same.

Black Friday also had some decent deals and seemed pretty busy.
 
Malls are crime magnets. I won't go to one day or night.
Glad I live where I do, no crime was in the malls but they priced themselves out of business through excessive rent being replaced by the same stores in snow covered outdoor malls.

Based on the bitog commentary this video is apparently representative of daily life and what happens in a restaurant visit.



Wait a minute... there are still malls out there? Seriously!

I can divide a century in half to figure the last time I was in one. Really.

For every indoor mall there was there are 3 strip malls, are those better?

For me the nearest indoor mall is 105 miles and it’s fairly busy still
 
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The closest Mall to me was torn down years ago, to be rebuilt as a village of stores. The THOUGHT was that people didn't want to be walking from store to store in climate controlled comfort. NO they really wanted to walk outside between stores in blazing 100° F temps in summer, and below 0° F in winter...

Needless to say it was a stupid idea.

THEN there was four years of rampant inflation, along with declining brick and mortar sales, and it has never been rebuilt. Now it's a vacant site.
Our one like that(redo into open air) is actually intensely successful. We get that range too however mostly 35f to 75f Economy is very strong in area and people travel from MA and ME which is 15 mins away to avoid sales tax.
 
Malls are busy here in Florida but how much of that spending is done with credit cards and Buy Now Pay Later plans with no real plan to pay it off ?

I don’t shop at any malls but I know many people like to buy stuff at malls out of boredom.
 
Most people I know don’t even go to malls anymore or shop in person. They all do online shopping. I personally will always prefer to go to the store for something if possible. To me it’s not surprising that the malls are dead. When I went in the bigger mall that we have in my town it was a ghost town at peak time. Walmart has not been to busy either. I still wish they would open 24 hours again though as I like to do late night shopping when it is for sure a ghost town.
The problem is that time and time again malls get put in with tax breaks and incentives for roughly 30 years. After that the anchor stores seem to leave and then other stores leave. Personally I detest Amazon and like shopping in person.
 
we used to have 2 malls. the one was torn down 15 years ago and remains an empty lot.
the other had 4 anchors at one point, Sears, Elder-Beerman, JC Penney, and Macys.
Through the 2000's, we've lost 3 of those,and if Penny's closes, it will literally cut the mall in half, you have to go through it to get from one side of the mall to the other. the only positive sign at that mall, is that last summer Target bought the old Macy's building( attached to, but built separate from the rest of the mall), tore it down, and is now building a new store. ( there have been rumors of Target coming here for 20+ years, at one point they were rumored to be looking at the empty lot that was the other mall.)
 
Some bankrupt malls are now being used for car dealership overflow parking storage lots.
 
Destination retail(Malls)is dying and in many areas alread dead. E-commerce, failed retailers, I e. Sears, JC Penny, Bed Bath Beyond, Macy's and Saks to a more limited extent but they've closed dozens of stores that were mall anchors.
We live near a mall in Delaware, which has no sales tax drawing customers from PA, NJ and MD, it's a ghost town now. Macy's hangs on but it's tired and no money will be spent to remodel it. The Sears is a huge store...empty for years now.
People still flock to the Best Buy next store for big ticket items but even Best Buy has changed. It's an online retailer that acts as a warehouse for customer pick-up. It's no longer the elaborate technology showroom it used to be.

Warehouse clubs have devoured the retail market share that malls once had as well.
Replacing the concept of malls is the so-called "mixed use" space... apartments, office space smaller retail and restaurants.

Some malls will continue to thrive. King of Prussia outside of Philadelphia will as will malls located near wealthy suburbs
 
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Theft runs rampant in shopping malls and the stores have about a third of the merchandise as they had 15 years ago. I still like to actually try on clothing instead of buying online. I go to the mall quite often however come out empty handed many times and still get the feeling I went shopping. It's kind of sad to see these malls half shut down but it's a sign of the times. I had a friend that worked in a popular Sunglass shop that caught a burglar stealing glasses and walked out of the store. She grabbed the mall cop and they caught the burglar red handed however the employee was fired for having the arrest made.
 
The Mall in Fort Smith is a ghost town and the Malls in the Little Rock area are where the locals go to shoot at each other. I guess they like the convenience of a Mall where you can shoot the dude that disrespected you AND grab that Christmas gift at the same time.
 
I live in a relatively affluent area. But the malls are still dead/closing and a thing of the past.

People are busy and prefer to shop with their mouse. There are Amazon, FedEx and UPS trucks everywhere here.

Other than groceries almost all our shopping is done on line and delivered to our doorstep.
 
Our mall went south when radio shack and Sears left. Most people over 30 had no reason to go to the mall after that.

In the 80's, a mall was being built in my town.
Some of the workers went on strike and formed a picket line.
To continue building the mall, the contractor hired a helicopter to lift steel beams up and fly them over the picket line.
That mall was actually built over a 10' wide creek.
Driving past the Mall on the Thruway, you can see the creek going under it.

I was in that mall recently and was surprised to see ALL the clothing stores in it.
I suspect it will eventually be turned into housing or an Amazon warehouse.

What I see more in my area are shopping plazas.
 
Malls are so 20th Century. Locally we've lost several. Some of them have been converted to mixed use area and some just demoed entirely. Getting in my car, driving to a store, browsing around, and purchasing items in person is so cumbersome. I suppose you guys take personal checks too.
 
Wife and I were talking about Macy's Furniture store here. Pretty dead in a largish strip mall. HG, Sierra, HL are all doing big B

Our discussion revolved around what they carry and their reaction speed to their market. Their online presence is now finally decent and full, store empty and barren. Makes economic sense at some level, but they had since what to evolve and adapt? 2000? 2005? So darn slow!!

Also of note are TJ's TR etc pretty packed now. Do people really want to go inside a mall or just hit stores when they do cruise missile shopping?

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