If Tom can find out what M1 uses with G.C., there is no doubt in my mind that any petroleum engineering staff could find out the same thing. This is a matter of profit over principle. In the long run BITOG members will feel better about using an alternative product, but Mobil wont be affected 1/2 of 1%. Blind faith from the majority of the herd will win every time. Now, please excuse me, my neighbor wants an M1/Fram change in her Saturn.
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If Tom can find out what M1 uses with G.C., there is no doubt in my mind that any petroleum engineering staff could find out the same thing. This is a matter of profit over principle. In the long run BITOG members will feel better about using an alternative product, but Mobil wont be affected 1/2 of 1%. Blind faith from the majority of the herd will win every time. Now, please excuse me, my neighbor wants an M1/Fram change in her Saturn.
Think Mobil 1 is over priced? Don't buy it. Think the Sopus or other oils are better or better values? Buy them.
Some of you are acting like your wife cheated on you. It's just motor oil..and I bet still a very good oil at that.
The extra .75-1.00 a qt make you feel like you are getting ripped off...then as I stated above, buy something else.
Some of you are acting like your wife cheated on you. It's just motor oil..and I bet still a very good oil at that.
The extra .75-1.00 a qt make you feel like you are getting ripped off...then as I stated above, buy something else.
I will now buy Amsoil. I now use there ATF, Gear oil and grease. All worked great. I though that is was easy to buy
M1, but how much easer can it get to have it delivered to your door. ________ Al,s and old fighter jockey.
M1, but how much easer can it get to have it delivered to your door. ________ Al,s and old fighter jockey.
I may go back to Amsoil but I dread the thought of how much it may cost given these days of all oils going up in price.
Hi gang, I sent Mobil another e-mail stating that even though they use some PAO that it may be possible that they have switched to a group 3 basestock as their main ingredient. Let's see if that gets them riled up.
I also told them I could always go back to Amsoil where I know I'm getting what I'm paying for.
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I read that link too and it is pretty good reading. Also, I'm completely with you on that statement. It seems we may be getting somewhere with all of this.
So far, no reply from Mobil. They may just dodge my question altogether. I'm losing my trust in them and very well may look to other oils in the future.
Exactly..the customer is always right.
OMG. All this babbling, one BITOG expert later, and everyone is dumping M1?
You gotta be kidding me?
You gotta be kidding me?
Nope. People feel shafted. They expected the best of the best and Mobil1 has (thanks to its marketing) given them the impression the best of the best doesn't include group III.
And that one BITOG expert is certainly in a position to know what he's talking about.
Around the ExxonMobil customer service water cooler...
"So how many questions about whether Mobil 1 is really synthetic today, Jim?"
"About 87,000. Pretty average. Maybe up a bit."
"Yeah, me too. I've been getting some emails from some weirdos though. Say they belong to some group called GOBIT or OBTIG or something."
"Same here. Keep saying Mobil 1 is fake 'cause of some GC test."
"What's German Castrol got to do with us?"
"Beats me. Did you give them the 'Mobil 1 continues to be made from 100% synthetic basestock' one?"
"Of course. But they kept rambling about group III not being true synthetic. Not that we use group III!" (looks around fearfully in case a boss is nearby)
"I know the feeling. I pulled out the 'we use PAO technology in all our oils' line and they still won't go away. One of them even said he'd dug up some big rock and was gonna drop it on my car! Must be some kinda cult."
"Yeah, this job ain't worth it anymore. Used to just be answering stuff like 'How many horsepower will I gain by switching to Mobil 1?' Now I get guys threatening to send me pictures of David Hasselhoff. I'm gonna go ask for a raise."
"So how many questions about whether Mobil 1 is really synthetic today, Jim?"
"About 87,000. Pretty average. Maybe up a bit."
"Yeah, me too. I've been getting some emails from some weirdos though. Say they belong to some group called GOBIT or OBTIG or something."
"Same here. Keep saying Mobil 1 is fake 'cause of some GC test."
"What's German Castrol got to do with us?"
"Beats me. Did you give them the 'Mobil 1 continues to be made from 100% synthetic basestock' one?"
"Of course. But they kept rambling about group III not being true synthetic. Not that we use group III!" (looks around fearfully in case a boss is nearby)
"I know the feeling. I pulled out the 'we use PAO technology in all our oils' line and they still won't go away. One of them even said he'd dug up some big rock and was gonna drop it on my car! Must be some kinda cult."
"Yeah, this job ain't worth it anymore. Used to just be answering stuff like 'How many horsepower will I gain by switching to Mobil 1?' Now I get guys threatening to send me pictures of David Hasselhoff. I'm gonna go ask for a raise."
& who are you?
Have you seen some of their comments to our questions or their adverts? Implies 100% synth PAO...that's the prob.
I think i got not now, you are referring to the 10-25% of the package. They distinguish it as severely hydroprocessed or synthetic basestocks implying that only PAO is synthetic basestock. On the other hand they recognise by definition that a combination between conventional and severely hydroprocessed(group III) can still be called semisynthetic.
That's really confusing.
That's really confusing.
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