Remember microGreen?

[Zee09]

Here you go.....

 

[UncleDave]

This is the gen 2 version that supposedly didnt work as well as the original.

 

[Zee09]

This is the gen 2 version that supposedly didnt work as well as the original.

Yes that is correct.

 

[wpod]

When you consider a properly maintained vehicle's engine usually outlasts the drive train and chassis bar quality or design issue what are we getting at?

 

[Kira]

I remember seeing some shelf space dedicated to them in the oil filter section.
The color screamed, "gimmicky" or perhaps merely, "Look at me".
Then they were gone.
Bring back "Steed" oil treatment.....you know, the one with the devil running on the label.

 

[fantastic]

Never heard of this brand or ever seen one before. Interesting & I love the green paint job! Appears to be a decent filter. I'm going to assume it's a cellulose/syn. fiber mix because it mentions "extended performance".

 

[Zee09]

I remember seeing some shelf space dedicated to them in the oil filter section.
The color screamed, "gimmicky" or perhaps merely, "Look at me".
Then they were gone.
Bring back "Steed" oil treatment.....you know, the one with the devil running on the label.

 

[Zee09]

Never heard of this brand or ever seen one before. Interesting & I love the green paint job! Appears to be a decent filter. I'm going to assume it's a cellulose/syn. fiber mix because it mentions "extended performance".

I reviewed these years back on here. I used maybe 7 of them and have a few left... @ZeeOSix and I had many discussions here on them.

 

[Zee09]

Never heard of this brand or ever seen one before. Interesting & I love the green paint job! Appears to be a decent filter. I'm going to assume it's a cellulose/syn. fiber mix because it mentions "extended performance".

I didn't know they left this webpage up...

https://www.microgreenfilter.com/

 

[fantastic]

I didn't know they left this webpage up...

https://www.microgreenfilter.com/

Interesting stuff on that page. There filter captures more of the smaller particles it seems is their thing.
Browsing a bit further they state:

• At the 10,000-mile oil change interval, only the microGreen® filter should be changed-the oil should remain in the engine and simply topped-off as necessary.
• At the 20,000-mile oil change interval, repeat the process. Change the filter, let the oil remain and top-off as necessary.
• After 30,000 miles, both the filter and the oil should be changed.
• Two filters in one system, keeping oil cleaner - longer.
• Patented microfilter captures particles down to 2 microns.
• 65-70% reduction in oil maintenance costs.
• 70% reduction in oil use.
• U.S. patents issued: 6,605,215 and 7,048,848.

So, it will cost you 3 oil filters over 30k miles. Makes me appreciate the new fram TG/Endurance for 2 & 1 filters over this same duration. However, if this "hybrid" filter is capturing more of the smaller particles I can see the need for more filters & it may be worth it for some. Thanks for the link!

 

[Zee09]

Interesting stuff on that page. There filter captures more of the smaller particles it seems is their thing.
Browsing a bit further they state:

• At the 10,000-mile oil change interval, only the microGreen® filter should be changed-the oil should remain in the engine and simply topped-off as necessary.
• At the 20,000-mile oil change interval, repeat the process. Change the filter, let the oil remain and top-off as necessary.
• After 30,000 miles, both the filter and the oil should be changed.
• Two filters in one system, keeping oil cleaner - longer.
• Patented microfilter captures particles down to 2 microns.
• 65-70% reduction in oil maintenance costs.
• 70% reduction in oil use.
• U.S. patents issued: 6,605,215 and 7,048,848.

So, it will cost you 3 oil filters over 30k miles. Makes me appreciate the new fram TG/Endurance for 2 & 1 filters over this same duration. However, if this "hybrid" filter is capturing more of the smaller particles I can see the need for more filters & it may be worth it for some. Thanks for the link!

The thrill for cheapskates was you didn't change the oil and only the filter....many of us tried it or close.

 

[fantastic]

The thrill for cheapskates was you didn't change the oil and only the filter....many of us tried it or close.

That is an excellent point & if paying a premium on your oil it makes it more appealing not having to change the oil.

 

[AutoMechanic]

Interesting Jim. I haven’t heard of these but then again I’m a young buck lol. I personally don’t think I’d use it as I’m picky about oil filters and oil haha. Maybe you can send one here to your mechanic friend for his collection that he displays on his dresser haha .

 

[Zee09]

That is an excellent point & if paying a premium on your oil it makes it more appealing not having to change the oil.

The old ones might have been great with HPL eh???

 

[kschachn]

Also note however that they never gave a filtering efficiency, without that a "down to 2 microns" is pretty worthless. They do state that "ISO 4548-12 multi-pass tests have been conducted to determine the filtration efficiency and dirt holding capacity of the convention pleated full-flow filter element inside the microGreen filter", but this ignores the disk and as far as I know they never reported the results of that test.

UnceDave and I and others had long discussions about this at the time but I never remember any resolution. My take then and now is that if an entity does not provide this information then it becomes suspicious to me at least.

This was a relevant thread at the time:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/microgreen-possibly-stunning-development.282099/

 

[Zee09]

Interesting Jim. I haven’t heard of these but then again I’m a young buck lol. I personally don’t think I’d use it as I’m picky about oil filters and oil haha. Maybe you can send one here to your mechanic friend for his collection that he displays on his dresser haha .

You want the cut one?
If I get another Mitsubishi the ones I have will fit...I will try to find them
Can get you one of each

 

[Zee09]

Also note however that they never gave a filtering efficiency, without that a "down to 2 microns" is pretty worthless. They do state that "ISO 4548-12 multi-pass tests have been conducted to determine the filtration efficiency and dirt holding capacity of the convention pleated full-flow filter element inside the microGreen filter", but this ignores the disk and as far as I know they never reported the results of that test.

UnceDave and I and others had long discussions about this at the time but I never remember any resolution. My take then and now is that if an entity does not provide this information then it becomes suspicious to me at least.

They did change the disc material a few times and they got loaded up in my use. Penny pinching...
The price then was $7 but factory direct they gave repeat buyers deals... sometimes 50 percent off.
Many of us just used it as a basic filter in the end.

 

[Owen Lucas]

What's the white felt / paper insert for, another layer of filtration? Looks pretty thick for a filter to me.

 

[kschachn]

What's the white felt / paper insert for, another layer of filtration? Looks pretty thick for a filter to me.

Yes, and if I recall correctly, it was a sintered polymer, maybe Teflon?

 

[Zee09]

What's the white felt / paper insert for, another layer of filtration? Looks pretty thick for a filter to me.

In the end it was Binderless glass microfiber filter media like used in the mushroom business. Really...even the size used was a standard off the shelf product.