Redline 5-30 3348 miles Dakota 4.7 Issues

[rpwilliams]

Couple of notes that need to be considered:
(1) Redline samples were all taken during the coldest winter on record in Ohio
(2) This sample was taken during the hottest summer on record in Ohio
(3) The above will surely have an effect on sample results
(4) Castrol is now being used


Oil - Castrol 5w30
Miles on truck - 19244
Miles on oil - 1619

Miscellaneous
A/F - N
Fuel - N
H2O - N
Viscosity - 56.0

Infrared Analysis
Soot - 19
Oxidation - 31
Nitration - 15
Sulfur - 23

Wear Metals(PPM)
Copper - 2
Iron - 7
Chrome - 0
Aluminum - 4
Silicon - 2
Lead - 1
Sodium - 13
Tin - 0
Nickel - 1
Barium - 0
Silver - 0
Zinc - 785
Boron - 0
Calcium - 2350
Phosphor - 701
Magnesium - 20
Potasium - 3
Molybendum - 13
Titanium - 0
Vanadium - 0

Lab Comments
- All reading acceptable
- Lower viscosity may be from shearing (Breakdown of oil)


Comments anyone? Thanks!!!

 

[fuel tanker man]

Come out, come out, wherever you are!!

All together now~!

REDLINE IS GOOD OIL~!

REDLINE IS GOOD OIL~!

REDLINE IS GOOD OIL~!

 

[fuel tanker man]

Seriously, guys, here's what has almost certainly gone on here:

The Redline has a tendency to draw moisture. That's not an issue with race engines, as they run very hot for extended periods, and the oil is then changed.

Combining an engine with a tendency to build up moisture, and an oil with a tendency to draw moisture has been a bad combination, pure and simple.

By the way, I mentioned that it was John Browning who took issue with my comments earlier in this thread. While I have been whacked by John once or twice for opining in these pages, it wasn't John this time, but Jason Troxwell. Just setting the record straight.

(Sorry, John).

For the remainder of the summer, I would run some Delo, Rotella, or Mobil Delvac (dino) 15W40 truck oil in this engine--and thin it with one quart of Marvel Mystery Oil. This combination should do some likely needed scavenging, and the MMO will be very good for any residual rust which may still be there.

About 4 quarts Delo 15W40, and 1 quart MMO. Run that for the remainder of the summer, then switch back to Castrol or whatever dino 5W30 for the fall/winter. I think Havoline would be a better choice, based on the continuing great UOA's of that brand of oil.

Looks like your engine is getting over its bout with influenza. Not to worry... (unless you put more Redline in there, that is)!

Dan

 

[Drew99GT]

This is why I sold my stash of Redline 10w-30 I got for 2 bucks at Advance Auto. Sold it for a hefty profit to!

REDLINE IS GOOD OIL AND WORTH 7 BUCKS A QUART.

Feel good you have 7 buck a quart protection; after all, the more expensive, the better.

 

[pushrod]

fuel tanker man.

 

[buster]

Bump, c'mon RL gurus. Where yooooous at!

 

[slider]

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Originally posted by buster:
>[QB] Bump, c'mon RL gurus. Where yooooous at!

bored

 

[bulwnkl]

FTM was posting not long ago that he wanted to use RedLine. Does this mean he doesn't anymore (flip-flopping like a presidential fish?), or is he just trying to create lower demand so his price to buy it will go down?

 

[fuel tanker man]

bulwnkl,

You've got me confused with someone else I'm afraid.

Find the post where I claimed that I wanted to use Redline and I'll give you a cookie.

Redline might make a good "wash" for a very dirty engine, but I'd treat it like any engine flush, which is to say I'd drain it out and put some motor oil in there ASAP.

Dan

 

[fuel tanker man]

quote:

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Originally posted by buster:
Bump, c'mon RL gurus. Where yooooous at!

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We might try looking under here...

 

[fuel tanker man]

Or they might possibly still be working on some scientific equations...

 

[Al]

quote:

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Originally posted by buster:
Bump, c'mon RL gurus. Where yooooous at!

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I believe that RL by itself is over rated. But mixing it 25%with other oils it the winner. They have given me superior oil analysises.

 

[fuel tanker man]

Al,

From the UOA's I've looked at, I think you're right--as an additive Redline seems to come into its own.

Dan

 

[bulwnkl]

quote:

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Originally posted by fuel tanker man:
bulwnkl,
Find the post where I claimed that I wanted to use Redline and I'll give you a cookie.

Dan

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Sorry, my post above was supposed to have a

in it.

However, if we're talking REAL cookies, then see your post (and my reply) here.

Maybe I should add another

here.

 

[sxg6]

after an extensive search i found there are countless uoa's where red line has performed very well with 0 water content. red line just not work well in this engine it seems. not to mention that red line was used while this engine was still breaking in, so of course wear will be elevated.

 

[fuel tanker man]

sxg6, the only truly decent UOA's with Redline have been with some Japanese in-line fours. The Subaru engine in particular is noted for its fantastic UOA's--on pretty much any oil. And there are dino UOA's with Subaru engines which show less wear than the one good Subaru UOA on file here...

We've got at least three to one bad UOA's versus good with Redline oils here. Those odds are awful for an oil so expensive.

The current Echo UOA does look good, but again, it's an easy engine to please, and the owner used Lube Control which probably helped (or at least should have helped one would think but the scenario still calls up the question "Why does an 8 buck a quart engine oil need help?")...

Bulwinkl, all I was saying there (in the link you provided) is that if ester content is what is supposed to make AutoRX clean, then Redline should work also (being heavy on esters).

Dan

 

[bulwnkl]

FTM;

All joking aside, I'm far more inclined to follow Terry's comments/direction/advice than anyone else's on here. I use RL MTX lube in my vehicles, and their engine oil in one of them. I have claimed several times on here that I think it is not justifiable from a cost perspective (the engine oil, that is. The gear oil is a bargain compared to parts-store prices on other gear oil). OTOH, neither is any other oil over ~$1.50/qt. (the price of a good quality all-fleet) for hardly any street vehicle, so one wonders why only RL is challenged in this regard.

One also wonders why it is the oil that is disparaged rather than the user for mis-application. Unlike some high-$ oils, RedLine is pretty specific in their marketing: it's a racer's oil which can be used on the street if you want to use it there.

 

[buster]

Most of RL's reputation comes from racing. All of those cars you see on their website, run RL's racing oils. Even the Acuras' of RealTime racing. I guess one could question how much RL tests their street oils based on BITOG UOA's. But as said above, the two most knowledgable guys on here both think RL is an excellent oil.

 

[bulwnkl]

Yes, it has been said a number of times that Redline doesn't care much for UOA results like we see here; don't seem to think they tell you much. I have to say that almost all of the chatter on the UOA boards appears to me to cause Terry either to shake his head in disbelief or occasionally chime in to correct the WAGs being posted. As I said, I'm going with Terry's knowledge and experience rather than my or anyone else's WAGs. Just sent him my Redline sample today, in fact...

 

[buster]

bulwnkl, what car and mileage?