Originally Posted By: azsynthetic
Originally Posted By: jpr
(1) I believe there is more criticism of unthinking boosterism of Redline than of the oil itself. But I believe this is the case for any oil discussed on BITOG, Redline has not been singled out. There is generally little patience here for claims that cannot be substantiated regardless of manufacturer.
(2) The second area of criticism is more about Redline's exaggerated and often misleading marketing claims, which can sometimes be reminscent of snake oil sales pitches. But again, I believe this sort of criticism occurs on BITOG for all oils from all manufacturers. It's that the bigger the claim and the less the data to back it up, the more pointed the criticism will be.
If you look past those two areas of criticism, I think you'll find the consensus opinion of Redline to be similar to that of most other synthetics - generally a good oil, better for some applications than others.
I do have data to backup Redline claims but sadly you don't want to pay to play. My offer still stands, put up or step off. Manufacturers (including Mobil, Amsoil, etc) do not reveal their secrets just because you might want to buy a few quarts of their oils. The proof is on the race track. When you race and rebuild engine on a regular basis then may be you will understand what good oil such as Redline, Amsoil, and RP means. If all you drive is a Toyota Corolla then by all means stick with the API stuffs on sale at $1/quart.
I am willing to bet that the general consensus opinion of Redline at the race track is that it is NOT similar to most other synthetics. Consensus opinion of bench racers, grandmas, and specs readers like yourselves is another matter.
Thank you for providing such an excellent example of the phenomenon I mentioned.
Originally Posted By: jpr
(1) I believe there is more criticism of unthinking boosterism of Redline than of the oil itself. But I believe this is the case for any oil discussed on BITOG, Redline has not been singled out. There is generally little patience here for claims that cannot be substantiated regardless of manufacturer.
(2) The second area of criticism is more about Redline's exaggerated and often misleading marketing claims, which can sometimes be reminscent of snake oil sales pitches. But again, I believe this sort of criticism occurs on BITOG for all oils from all manufacturers. It's that the bigger the claim and the less the data to back it up, the more pointed the criticism will be.
If you look past those two areas of criticism, I think you'll find the consensus opinion of Redline to be similar to that of most other synthetics - generally a good oil, better for some applications than others.
I do have data to backup Redline claims but sadly you don't want to pay to play. My offer still stands, put up or step off. Manufacturers (including Mobil, Amsoil, etc) do not reveal their secrets just because you might want to buy a few quarts of their oils. The proof is on the race track. When you race and rebuild engine on a regular basis then may be you will understand what good oil such as Redline, Amsoil, and RP means. If all you drive is a Toyota Corolla then by all means stick with the API stuffs on sale at $1/quart.
I am willing to bet that the general consensus opinion of Redline at the race track is that it is NOT similar to most other synthetics. Consensus opinion of bench racers, grandmas, and specs readers like yourselves is another matter.
Thank you for providing such an excellent example of the phenomenon I mentioned.
