i was born in 1970 and by the early 80's i was into pc's. out of all my friends only 2 of them had IBM machines, the graphics were horrid with pong like gaming. 1 had an apple and the gaming was much more robust. my first machine was the commodore 64 and it was a very good gaming machine compared to the other 2. i used the 64 untill around the mid 80's and then went to the atari ST and used it untill the very early 90's. i can still remember "surfing the web" ala the public domain to download games.