Rear rotors and pads?

[hk24]

I need to do rotors and pads - rear - on an Accord '07 EX.
Is there a difference when doing the rear brakes vs front?

Second question - which brand/model?

In Canada, *local* prices are pretty bad - and so I'm ordering online - Rock Auto charges $40 shipping so I'm just comparing prices/choices vs Parts Avatar which has free shipping and so it should come out a bit cheaper. Not as many choices and a bit confusing - some parts that RA says is Premium - is categorized under 'OE' on PA.

Anyway, I'm confused/indecisive or maybe just overthinking - the parts seem pretty comparable - except for slight changes on price - or maybe someone reading this will think certain ones are 'better?' Also, I guess they're all from China, now? Unless, I pay extra, they are probably all pretty similar quality wise or am I wrong? If so, please explain and recommend?

Rotors:
Centric 320.40055F - $44
Rear Performance Rotor - RAYBESTOS Specialty - 980138 - $51
Eurorotor HO594 (states 'premium - high carbon' - dunno if just marketing but I read a post on here of a guy who likes them) - $31
I need 2 so obviously x2

Pads:
Power Stop Z17-537 - $51
Bosch BC537 QuietCast - $49
Raybestos Element3 - $57* (*these seem to have mixed reviews for now /current - quality has gone down maybe? But, the reason I was going to rate the other 2 higher is because they're a bit cheaper and probably as good or better?).

What would you choose if these are the choices?

 

[supton]

Don't know your car, so I'd be concerned about if the rear brakes need to have the pistons wound back in instead of pressed in. If it has a parking brake like the old school drum brakes, then no; otherwise... I'd google it. GOOGLE. Personally I'd look for a video where someone does this for you, and films it--fast that way to find any gotchas.

 

[ctechbob]

I don't know if they changed it from my 2003, but if you have the parking brake in the caliper you will need to wind the piston back in as opposed to pressing it back in.

You're going to get 10000 opinions on pads/rotors. If you live in the salt belt, you'll want something coated, if not then the cheaper ones will be just fine.

The rear brakes on these cars don't do a ton of work, so whatever you choose will likely work well.

 

[ctechbob]

Don't know your car, so I'd be concerned about if the rear brakes need to have the pistons wound back in instead of pressed in. If it has a parking brake like the old school drum brakes, then no; otherwise... I'd google it. GOOGLE. Personally I'd look for a video where someone does this for you, and films it--fast that way to find any gotchas.

Or cheat and look on Rockauto at caliper pics.

Just looked, they are the windback style.

Don't go trying to mash them in with a C-Clamp, you'll either need a windback tool, or another way to spin them back in.

 

[Trav]

None of those, you are correct the Elements 3 have turned to crap. Years ago I used them on my VW that ran every winter after 4 years there was no significant rust or scoring and the brake performance was excellent. FFW to 2023 I used them on another winter car, holy cow 11K and they are rotted and scored, poor brake performance, they are like a totally different product.

I went OE to replace them for not much more than Akebono or Advics pads and rotors which would be my choice if not OE. Check the price of OE at an online dealer first.

 

[BMW Dom]

None of those, you are correct the Elements 3 have turned to crap. Years ago I used them on my VW that ran every winter after 4 years there was no significant rust or scoring and the brake performance was excellent. FFW to 2023 I used them on another winter car, holy cow 11K and they are rotted and scored, poor brake performance, they are like a totally different product.

I went OE to replace them for not much more than Akebono or Advics pads and rotors which would be my choice if not OE. Check the price of OE at an online dealer first.

What's wrong with Bosch?

 

[hemitom]

I need to do rotors and pads - rear - on an Accord '07 EX.
Is there a difference when doing the rear brakes vs front?

Second question - which brand/model?

In Canada, *local* prices are pretty bad - and so I'm ordering online - Rock Auto charges $40 shipping so I'm just comparing prices/choices vs Parts Avatar which has free shipping and so it should come out a bit cheaper. Not as many choices and a bit confusing - some parts that RA says is Premium - is categorized under 'OE' on PA.

Anyway, I'm confused/indecisive or maybe just overthinking - the parts seem pretty comparable - except for slight changes on price - or maybe someone reading this will think certain ones are 'better?' Also, I guess they're all from China, now? Unless, I pay extra, they are probably all pretty similar quality wise or am I wrong? If so, please explain and recommend?

Rotors:
Centric 320.40055F - $44
Rear Performance Rotor - RAYBESTOS Specialty - 980138 - $51
Eurorotor HO594 (states 'premium - high carbon' - dunno if just marketing but I read a post on here of a guy who likes them) - $31
I need 2 so obviously x2

Pads:
Power Stop Z17-537 - $51
Bosch BC537 QuietCast - $49
Raybestos Element3 - $57* (*these seem to have mixed reviews for now /current - quality has gone down maybe? But, the reason I was going to rate the other 2 higher is because they're a bit cheaper and probably as good or better?).

What would you choose if these are the choices?

Take a look at. Max brakes .com. quick search shows there value line at $84. Canadian
I put a set front and rear on my winter beater and have had absolutely no issues and I have about 30k on them.
Plus free shipping.

 

[Trav]

For German cars I use OE or Zimmerman for rotors and ATE and sometimes depending on COO Textar and Pagid for pads, the Bosch I have seen that other people bought and wanted me to install look like most of the other lower priced Chinese parts. Compare them side by side to made in Germany Zimmermans or OE and it is night and day.

 

[demarpaint]

None of those, you are correct the Elements 3 have turned to crap. Years ago I used them on my VW that ran every winter after 4 years there was no significant rust or scoring and the brake performance was excellent. FFW to 2023 I used them on another winter car, holy cow 11K and they are rotted and scored, poor brake performance, they are like a totally different product.

I went OE to replace them for not much more than Akebono or Advics pads and rotors which would be my choice if not OE. Check the price of OE at an online dealer first.

It's lousy to read the Element3 pads and rotors turned to crap, but from what I've been reading it appears they have. Typical and not surprising unfortunately. I still have a set of the good stuff for my Wrangler and Liberty, after that I'll be on the hunt for something else that's good.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Rotors:
Powerstop JBR964EVC
Famous Brand YH145405C (these are Carquest; AAP closed/is closing 700 stores)
Wagner BD126082E

Someone on here found Metrix Premium brand rotors that are made in Turkey instead of China. I think they're sold on Amazon. Fremax rotors are made in Brazil. Most EBC rotors are made in the England, and now they have a Geomet type coating. Advics makes some, but not all, aftermarket rotors in the US, usually when Advics is the OE rotor supplier.

Pads:
Pagid 355035001
Advics AD0537
Akebono ACT537A
EBC UD537 (not available from Rockauto)

 

[hk24]

Advics AD0537

The Advics look really good - their rotors, too, but alas, I can't find them for a good price in Canada.

I like the Akebonos but they're another $25-ish. Should I pay more for them compared to other choices? Kinda on a budget but I suppose I could save up more for them if it's worth it?
I could buy the Power Stop rotors - they're available and price isn't too bad - are they better than the Raybestos Specialty 980138 rotors? I was looking at them, too. Similar in price.
Edit: Oh, the Wagner rotors, as well..... so, 3 choices in rotors, there.

EBC pads available on Amazon - for me, it'd be $75. The Akebono pads cited (I'm familiar with them - bought them for a family member over a year ago) - $78.

 

[Kalle.J]

You are overthinking this, just get any coated rotor and some good pads.
No rotor lasts forever with salt on the road. Brake them in properly helps a bit.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

The Advics look really good - their rotors, too, but alas, I can't find them for a good price in Canada.

I like the Akebonos but they're another $25-ish. Should I pay more for them compared to other choices? Kinda on a budget but I suppose I could save up more for them if it's worth it?
I could buy the Power Stop rotors - they're available and price isn't too bad - are they better than the Raybestos Specialty 980138 rotors? I was looking at them, too. Similar in price.
Edit: Oh, the Wagner rotors, as well..... so, 3 choices in rotors, there.

EBC pads available on Amazon - for me, it'd be $75. The Akebono pads cited (I'm familiar with them - bought them for a family member over a year ago) - $78.

Yes, the Powerstop rotors are better than Raybestos Specialty 980138.

I looked on Parts Avatar and found these UQuality coated rotors (part number 2031315) for only $27 each, and they are fully coated. They seem to be the cheapest fully-coated rotor where the inside hat is actually coated. You have to be careful because most cheap coated rotors aren't coated on the inside hat, and this is critical because an uncoated inside hat will freeze to the hub!

The Eurorotor pads (part number ID537H) are a snazzy red color

They also have the Pagid pads I mentioned earlier for $50. Since they are about $30 on Rock Auto, they are basically the same price, as $30 US is roughly equal to $50 CA.

PA seems to require a $99 total in order to qualify for free shipping, so the cheapest parts on that site without the free shipping may or may not cost more than Rock Auto. Because of that, the real price difference between the Pagid pads and the Eurorotor is only about $10.

 

[shortyb]

For an older Accord, and components you've mentioned, I'd go Powerstop rotors and Akebono ACTs and call it a day.

 

[hk24]

For an older Accord, and components you've mentioned, I'd go Powerstop rotors and Akebono ACTs and call it a day.

I can get these at RA but need to spend $38 for shipping - however, the total is only $179 which isn't bad, really - the Akebono ACTs are only $55 CAD there.

For comparison, PA - Bosch pads and Centric Rotors (BC537 & 320.40055F) are $155 total. I read that some ppl like the E-coated 120 model Centric rotors better and the Power Stop JBR964EVC rotors would be a few more $ if I got them instead. The RA deal with the high shipping charge isn't too bad for $25 more if the Akebono is worth it, right?

 

[Rust_Belt_Pete]

I need to do rotors and pads - rear - on an Accord '07 EX.
Is there a difference when doing the rear brakes vs front?

Second question - which brand/model?

In Canada, *local* prices are pretty bad - and so I'm ordering online - Rock Auto charges $40 shipping so I'm just comparing prices/choices vs Parts Avatar which has free shipping and so it should come out a bit cheaper. Not as many choices and a bit confusing - some parts that RA says is Premium - is categorized under 'OE' on PA.

Anyway, I'm confused/indecisive or maybe just overthinking - the parts seem pretty comparable - except for slight changes on price - or maybe someone reading this will think certain ones are 'better?' Also, I guess they're all from China, now? Unless, I pay extra, they are probably all pretty similar quality wise or am I wrong? If so, please explain and recommend?

Rotors:
Centric 320.40055F - $44
Rear Performance Rotor - RAYBESTOS Specialty - 980138 - $51
Eurorotor HO594 (states 'premium - high carbon' - dunno if just marketing but I read a post on here of a guy who likes them) - $31
I need 2 so obviously x2

Pads:
Power Stop Z17-537 - $51
Bosch BC537 QuietCast - $49
Raybestos Element3 - $57* (*these seem to have mixed reviews for now /current - quality has gone down maybe? But, the reason I was going to rate the other 2 higher is because they're a bit cheaper and probably as good or better?).

What would you choose if these are the choices?

The prices you posted? Is it a lot more expensive in Canada?

 

[Rust_Belt_Pete]

I held akebono and centric posi quiet pads for my ford flex side by side. Night and day difference in backer plate quality.
Bad stamping that wasn't cleaned up vs nice smooth backers plate with rounded edges that will slide well.
I am biased i have akebono ultra performance pads and I live in Buffalo NY so they do well in the cold.

You may want to look into NRS Brake pads. They are made in Canada and they seem to be decent semi metallic brake pad with good zinc coated backer plate to help with rust jacking and deamination.

Whatever you choose its not gasoline or oil that you are changing. You are changing the most important system in your car that can save or destroy your life your family or strangers.
Brakes is the last place you want to save money on.

 

[shortyb]

I can get these at RA but need to spend $38 for shipping - however, the total is only $179 which isn't bad, really - the Akebono ACTs are only $55 CAD there.

For comparison, PA - Bosch pads and Centric Rotors (BC537 & 320.40055F) are $155 total. I read that some ppl like the E-coated 120 model Centric rotors better and the Power Stop JBR964EVC rotors would be a few more $ if I got them instead. The RA deal with the high shipping charge isn't too bad for $25 more if the Akebono is worth it, right?

E-coated Centrics have been hit or miss in the examples I've seen over the past few months so YMMV. The Power Stops just seem to be more consistent, at least the Geomet coated Evolutions like you are considering. I personally would consider the Akebonos to be worth the difference over the Boschs if you're not considering OE pads (which are probably Akebono sourced).

 

[hk24]

The prices you posted? Is it a lot more expensive in Canada?

Yep. For e.g., my local dealer charges over $130 for rotors (x2) and over $120 for pads. I can find EBC pads on Amazon for $74 and Akebono pads are $80-ish locally and Rock Auto has a good price for them $55 - but, the shipping is $40 so, maybe that cancels out the savings? Depends on how one looks at it? This is all CAD funds.

I held akebono and centric posi quiet pads for my ford flex side by side. Night and day difference in backer plate quality.
Bad stamping that wasn't cleaned up vs nice smooth backers plate with rounded edges that will slide well.
I am biased i have akebono ultra performance pads and I live in Buffalo NY so they do well in the cold.

You may want to look into NRS Brake pads. They are made in Canada and they seem to be decent semi metallic brake pad with good zinc coated backer plate to help with rust jacking and deamination.

Whatever you choose its not gasoline or oil that you are changing. You are changing the most important system in your car that can save or destroy your life your family or strangers.
Brakes is the last place you want to save money on.

That's true. I will look into that - I was under the impression that they might be louder, though?

E-coated Centrics have been hit or miss in the examples I've seen over the past few months so YMMV. The Power Stops just seem to be more consistent, at least the Geomet coated Evolutions like you are considering. I personally would consider the Akebonos to be worth the difference over the Boschs if you're not considering OE pads (which are probably Akebono sourced).

OE pads locally - at the dealer is super expensive - over $125 (not including tax). I thought I should call and see what the prices would be. Dunno is that typical everywhere - I suspect it's not so bad in the USA? But, where I am from, it seems pretty high. If you mean 'OE-equivalent' pads, there's a bunch of choices but I suspect they're all made in China - and probably pretty comparable? I guess if I want something made in Mexico, Canada, UK or Japan (for e.g.), I'll have to pay more. :-/

The car isn't even in pristine condition anymore but like the other guy said - brakes are pretty important so I was thinking of paying a bit extra if I can get something like Akebono for not much more. But, I kinda have a budget of $400 for everything ($200 for both rotors/pads). I'm not doing it myself but I also need to find out how the calipers are....sure hope I don't need to replace those, too.

 

[D1dad]

If you want something decent and not made in China then ebc. The raybestos specialty streets are going on my 24 when it needs brakes but in no way can I say they’re good. I have never used them. The specs and being g3000, along with price was the reason I have them. I can vouch for ebc as they’re about as good as you going to get in a rotor that’s priced decently and made in the uk