Here's a video of the process with bushings:
Basically, thin layer of teflon tape on everything prior to greasing. In North America, there is pink teflon tape that is thicker which may be more durable.
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Here's a video of the process with bushings:
Basically, thin layer of teflon tape on everything prior to greasing. In North America, there is pink teflon tape that is thicker which may be more durable.
You'll notice a difference in NVH. Lancers aren't NVH friendly.
Are you going with stock shocks? If so and you want to keep your current level of comfort I'd recommend just leaving the bushings alone.
In combination with above, if you're not tracking it with sticky tires and a suspension to match, I'd also leave it alone.
If not stock shocks and you're getting aftermarket ones that lower your car, look into a roll center kit first.
Are you going with stock shocks? If so and you want to keep your current level of comfort I'd recommend just leaving the bushings alone.
In combination with above, if you're not tracking it with sticky tires and a suspension to match, I'd also leave it alone.
If not stock shocks and you're getting aftermarket ones that lower your car, look into a roll center kit first.
I'd go with all one brand and what every combo they suggest. The brand likely to last the longest is my choice
I mentioned I probably would not do it now, mostly because I don't need any extra performance from my F-Type. Despite being a performance driver and HP junkie, I'm older, so I don't want to spend a week changing bushings.
But I do like the feel of a car with a well configured set of poly bushings. Tight and responsive.
Well, most probably that's what I will do. I will follow the company's combination and since this is a road car, I will choose the softest kit.
I don't have anything to lose if I apply teflon. I don't know if there is a thicker version available in Greece, but if I wrap more layers of the tape I guess the result will be the same or similar with using a thicker one.
But why should the tape be applied prior to greasing? Is there a downside if the bushing has been greased. The bushings have grooves or different patterns of gaps to hold more grease in there. I personally would apply grease twice, prior and after wrapping the bushings with the teflon tape.
I'm going to use adjustable Tein dampers. I have upgraded front and rear sway bars and stiffer rear springs on the car. The car is stock height.
Oh I just started to relate this and your other thread.
Partially continuing from your other thread, I didn't realize you already changed out the sway bars too.
IMO, stay away from any solid bushings in the lancer unless you're willing to pay the price with noise and vibration from the plastic panels. I don't think I can take the same punishment as I did when I had one 10+ years ago.
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I had already changed dampers, both sway bars (along with adjustable end links) and rear springs, but now I'm moving to Tein dampers, because of a strange and unexpected failure of one of the Koni struts I have on the car.
Do you mean interior plastics? I can't say that I have any particular issue with them. The Lancer is a car that is not very soundproof, that's its main problem with noise, but I don't get noises from any specific parts of the car.
I had already changed dampers, both sway bars (along with adjustable end links) and rear springs, but now I'm moving to Tein dampers, because of a strange and unexpected failure of one of the Koni struts I have on the car.
Do you mean interior plastics? I can't say that I have any particular issue with them. The Lancer is a car that is not very soundproof, that's its main problem with noise, but I don't get noises from any specific parts of the car.
Like I said before, I recommend rubber bushings, I only went with Poly coz toyota dont make them for my car anymore. Go poly if you have no choice.
When I have them on the car I will share my experience. Hopefully the experience will be positive.
Got the poly bushes installed today.
I used teflon tape as @KevinMalone suggested. I wrapped all bushings and their axles a few times to make the teflon relatively thick.
There was no space to use shims as @alcyon had suggested. The poly bushings of the arms fitted too tight within the front and rear crossmembers.
No difference regarding NVH at all. I didn't have the chance to drive the car on really bumpy roads, but my first impression is that the car feels only a little stiffer with the 80 shA bushings. Based on my first impression I could easily choose to go to stiffer ones.
I used teflon tape as @KevinMalone suggested. I wrapped all bushings and their axles a few times to make the teflon relatively thick.
There was no space to use shims as @alcyon had suggested. The poly bushings of the arms fitted too tight within the front and rear crossmembers.
No difference regarding NVH at all. I didn't have the chance to drive the car on really bumpy roads, but my first impression is that the car feels only a little stiffer with the 80 shA bushings. Based on my first impression I could easily choose to go to stiffer ones.
After driving the car with the poly bushings for 2 weeks I should give an update.
Along with the bushings I also installed Tein adjustable struts and shocks and I had initially set them to 2 (0 is the firmest and 16 their softest setting).
Well, I initially thought that all the difference regarding firmness was due to the setting of the front struts. That's not the case. Even with the softer setting the car is still firmer than before installing the poly bushes. Actually the difference is made only by the big bushings of the front control arms. There in no significant difference in the rear axle by the small bushings.
What I found interesting is that when I set the struts to 10, which is the softest setting I tested, the dampening was poor and hitting potholes was more uncomfortable than using a firmer setting, at least firmer to a certain point. In my personal opinion the sweet spot is 6.
To summarize, if we categorize the road surface smoothness in 3 categories, let's say smooth, medium and bad / very bad, driving the car to roads that are in the third category while having the 80 shA bushings installed will definitely make a noticeable difference. Other than that the difference is not really felt and the ride remains comfortable.
Along with the bushings I also installed Tein adjustable struts and shocks and I had initially set them to 2 (0 is the firmest and 16 their softest setting).
Well, I initially thought that all the difference regarding firmness was due to the setting of the front struts. That's not the case. Even with the softer setting the car is still firmer than before installing the poly bushes. Actually the difference is made only by the big bushings of the front control arms. There in no significant difference in the rear axle by the small bushings.
What I found interesting is that when I set the struts to 10, which is the softest setting I tested, the dampening was poor and hitting potholes was more uncomfortable than using a firmer setting, at least firmer to a certain point. In my personal opinion the sweet spot is 6.
To summarize, if we categorize the road surface smoothness in 3 categories, let's say smooth, medium and bad / very bad, driving the car to roads that are in the third category while having the 80 shA bushings installed will definitely make a noticeable difference. Other than that the difference is not really felt and the ride remains comfortable.
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