Realtor's commission...?

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I have a vacant building lot that I bought a few years back, while the economy was still decent. Well, we all know what has happened since then...

I stuck a "For Sale" sign on the lot, just to see what would happen, and have gotten a few phone calls, but no serious leads.

Now, the local school district has announced that a new school will be built 3 blocks away, and my lot is the nearest lot that is on the market to the new school. There aren't any lots that will be developed in the foreseeable future that are closer to the school.

I was contacted late last week by a realtor who has an interested buyer. I'm willing to take a small loss on the lot, and through verbal conversations, the buyer is at that price. However, the realtor is stuck on his 3% commission, and is unwilling to budge. This will force me to take an even bigger loss. I don't think that he's worth $1300 to ME to sell this lot for me, to HIS buyer. He doesn't represent me at all.

This lot will now generate considerably more interest, with the imminent construction of the new school in the newspaper. In fact, the design of the new building was revealed last night, with construction to begin next Spring. Plus, there is a brand new city park next to the school site, with a full playground and a little league ball diamond.

I suggested that the realtor take a 2% commission to seal the deal, and he basically told me that his fee wasn't negotiable at all. I should have told him that 2% of something is worth a lot more than 3% of nothing, and left it at that for him to think about.

So, in a down economy like this, is it unusual for a realtor to refuse to back down on his commission? He came to me, not the other way around. Plus, there's no house. It's just a bare, vacant lot. It should be less work for him... there's no "house" issues to deal with.

And the other thing is that *I* get to pay his commission, and the buyer (who is actually the one who "hired" him) gets me to pay the realtor's 3% fee for him.
 
He has a buyer, you don't.

If you don't want to pay the commission, he'll simply find another property for his buyer. That's what I would do. It really is that simple.

That said, maybe you should contact another real estate agent to try and get a fair market value for the property. Be upfront with your current situation, tell him you have an offer for XXXX selling it on your own, but you're wondering if it's worth more. I'd probably suggest talking to 2 different agents and see what they say.

Good luck!
 
I'd think that with a new scholl going up near it, your lot will become a LOT more valuable...but i don't know much about RE.

Personally, I'd wait to see how this plays out - I wouldn't take a loss on RE, which is generally a good performer, with some cylclical glitches....

I'd sit on this.
 
I would tell him NO on his offer, and let him cook on that. The lot wont be worth much as residential next to a school - but it may have some commercial value or the town may want that land - i would check with a zoning selectman in the town to se what's up with the new school zoning.
 
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I would tell him NO on his offer, and let him cook on that. The lot wont be worth much as residential next to a school - but it may have some commercial value or the town may want that land - i would check with a zoning selectman in the town to se what's up with the new school zoning.


It's strictly a lot for a home. It is zoned solely as single family residential, in a residential subdivision that is about 5 years old.

Some good feedback here. I think I'm going to place a call to a realtor who I've worked with in the past, and pose some of this to her as we
 
With the school going up - I would wait until it's close to completion before selling the lot. It will be a lot more desirable for people who want a lot to build a house on.

When the wife and I are ready to have kids we will look for a house close to a school so the kiddos can walk.

That is, if you can wait.
 
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Realtors always get in the way of a good deal. If I had been able to work with the actual sellers/buyers instead of a realtor, things would always have been 1) easier 2) cheaper and 3) less time consuming.
 
A long time ago a friend told me something that I have always thought of when buying and selling things. He said that the important number is what the item is worth to you, not what anybody else says or what the other party says. In other words, if you feel you're not going to get enough for the property using the broker than you're not getting enough. Often brokers will tell you that they will get so much more money for the property that the commission will be worth it. In this case it sounds like you are not going to get more so I would say the commission is not worth paying.
 
Beware of real estate agents telling you they have an "interested buyer". Thats the oldest trick in the book to get you to sign a listing agreement with them.

If he truly has a buyer, tell him you will sign a 48 hour listing agreement and have hime present an offer
 
This property will sell itself now,just put a for sale by owner sign on the lot and make a profit.I bought commercial real estate for a large convience store chain from Iowa for three years,from what you describe about the property and the amount of traffic generated by the school this will be valuble property for a c-store or similar business.Do not pay the real estate agent any commission that is what the buyer has hired the agent to do purchase your property.The agent contacted you.The city will often give a zoning variance and change the zoning if it is a practical situation,sit on the lot and see what happens with developement in the area.
 
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Tell the agent to bring you a written offer, that will shake out the agents [censored], if he really does have an offer. Agents have been known to lie to get a listing. Since the agent represents the buyer the deal can be written so the buyer pays the agent.
 
If you have an offer I'd submit a counter offer 3% or 1300 higher. The buyer will get the hint at what is happening.

If there is no offer, are you sure there really is a "interested buyer"?

I'd also be tempted to wait for the school to be built.
 
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just tell him he get 0% from and give him $1000 cash or something, but be polite, say sorry bud,
 
So he has a buyer and wants 3% commision and you counter at 2%??

Maybe you will get lucky and that person who wants the lot will have an ounce of brains and give you a call if he sees your "for sale" sign and you can do a deal sans the realtor.

what does the 1% delta amount to???

what does a buildable lot go for??

We have a new 28 million $ elementry school going in a 1/4 mile away and I wouldnt want to live next to it, have all the [censored] noise in the morning, no thanks!
 
I can't understand why anyone would try and cut out the poor Realtor.

He brought the buyer in, and the seller pays. That's the way it works.

When I bought my current home the deal was discovered by my wife online, and we still used our Realtor. We didn't pay him, the seller did. And he earned every penny.

I think it is unreasonable to expect them to do that for nothing.
 
Originally Posted By: MegaCorp
Beware of real estate agents telling you they have an "interested buyer". Thats the oldest trick in the book to get you to sign a listing agreement with them.

If he truly has a buyer, tell him you will sign a 48 hour listing agreement and have hime present an offer


While that may be the case, it also could be completely legitimate. I've done this with "for sale by owner" properties, and you just write an "open listing contract". You just have to be careful with what you're signing.
 
Dealing directly with me would have been a lot cheaper. A little paperwork from my lawyer, and close the deal.

My cell phone number is on the sign. The buyer did call and speak to me, then for some reason, he dragged this realtor in on the deal. Maybe he wanted to help his buddy the realtor make $1300 on the deal as well. The realtor did not find the lot, the potential buyer did.

I'm still not sure why it is *my* responsibility to pay for someone that the buyer felt that he had to insert into this deal.

I guess I just need to counteroffer with the statement "Realtor is buyer's agent, therefore buyer will pay for all realtor's fees".
 
I'm sure the realtor is used to 6%, or something like that . The 3% is a loss to him.

When houses were $20,000, it was not a big deal.
Now that housing can be $2,000,000, it is an outrage.

It is like tipping at a restaurant. Why pay more for the same work?
Is it harder to carry our a plate of pasta, or a lobster dinner?
But we have to relinquish more of a tip for the expensive food?
Why pay more with a real estate agent for an expensive house??
I abhor real estate agents. Legal theft.
 
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