Really a price Difference between Dino an Syn Oil?

[jeepman]

Originally Posted By: Virtuoso
These days I take dino to 7,500 miles when I used to change synthetic at 3-4k...

Most people change syn wayyy too often. [censored] most people seem to change dino too often... JMHO YMMV


Here, here. What cracks me up is some folks who tout the benefit of using a syn so they can go longer OCI's and then posting used oil analysis at 3-4k.

Both of our cars can go 7500 miles on dino, but our usage allows me to change in 6 month intervals of around 5k each, and I still feel like I'm getting ripped off by losing the extra 2500 miles I could get out of the dino. But the 6 month April/October thing works to keep me from a winter time oil change....

 

[Scotty1981]

If someone was switching to synthetic without extending the OCI would the synthetic still offer any benefit such as better protection/lubrication or is a longer OCI the only benefit over dino?

 

[Scotty1981]

Originally Posted By: GROUCHO MARX
Originally Posted By: cassidy
Yeah, dino with shorter intervals. I dont care what anybody says, there is nothing as good as draining out the contanimants from your engine and oil is cheap.


I would be going dino at 5k intervals but 5k is coming around too fast for this old boy.


What do you think about dino with a 6k/7k interval(depending on the OLM in my car)?

Also why doesn't anyone mention dino/synthetic blends very often?

 

[ZZman]

Originally Posted By: Scotty1981
If someone was switching to synthetic without extending the OCI would the synthetic still offer any benefit such as better protection/lubrication or is a longer OCI the only benefit over conventional?


Well if you believe the oil companies and all their research ...YES.

Most Syn oils are not touted as long OCI oils. They are meant to be a better performing oil over conventional for the same oci you would use a Conventional oil.

 

[ZZman]

Originally Posted By: Scotty1981

What do you think about conventional with a 6k/7k interval(depending on the OLM in my car)?

Also why doesn't anyone mention conventional/synthetic blends very often?


Manufacturers assume people run Conventional oil use their car calls for Syn oil so that shoyuld be no problem. (Remember the 3,000 mile change is old news)

I think most people don't talk much about the blends because they are either fine running Conventional or want the full benefits of a Syn oil. Why "water" down the Syn Oil?

 

[Scotty1981]

My OLM won't let me tell it if I am using conventional or synthetic and until the warranty expires I am reluctant to follow someones advice and just run the OLM down to 0% and reset it and run it down again for one OCI of synthetic vs. just running it down once for a change of dino.

Given the situation then I was thinking of using a blend to save a little money since I wasn't trying to extend the OCI but still wanted a little better protection. Although given rebates and sales I also suppose it doesn't really matter much in the end.

My only other problem is I was hoping to run OEM filters but most oil sales require a filter and oil purchase for the sale prices, at least at Advance and Autozone and such, I'll have to go up to Walmart and check around, I won't be needed the oil changed for about another month so I havn't looked into it too hard yet, just trying to ask around on here to get an idea what would be best. The service guys at the dealership said the OEM filter would be best but I am not sure. If I had a problem would I have to "fight" the dealer to get warranty work done on the car if I had a non OEM filter on the car?

 

[otis24]

If longer OCI was the only reason to use synthetic, I would not be using it. I would run dino and change at 3k miles. Also, many people overlook the fact that dino can be run in excess of 3k miles, under the right circumstances.

I do short trips (less than 3 miles) with some highway miles thrown in. I also see a lot of sub-zero temps in the winter (about 5 months this year) and high summer temps. I believe that synthetics help under my severe driving circumstances.

 

[Zedhed]

7-8k OCIs on the OLM using synthetics is not wasteful, just insurance.

 

[ZZman]

Scotty1981

You can't beat Walmart's everyday oil prices by the jug.

No you do not need to use OEM parts. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act allows us to use aftermarket parts with no risk to warranty work.

Many OEM filters are good. However there are many awesome aftermarket filters out there. These include Mobil 1, Purolator Pure One/Bosch Premium, Wix/Napa Gold/Carquest Blue filters.

If most manufacturers think people are going to run Dino in their cars for the OLM, the Syn oil for sure will make it fine.

Is the $ 5-10.00 difference per oil change for Syn oil really that big of a deal? That is like one nice lunch out somewhere.

 

[cp3]

Originally Posted By: ZZman

Is the $ 5-10.00 difference per oil change for Syn oil really that big of a deal? That is like one nice lunch out somewhere.



I'd agree for $5!! Unfortunately it's a bigger difference up here. At Walmart, Valvoline conventional is $11.88/5L, PP is $34.98/5L, Edge $47.98/5L!

 

[ZZman]

Man that is outrageous man!

Time to rent a big truck and head to the border!

 

[cp3]

Might be a plan!! But I understand what you're saying and agree. If you extend the OCI on syn it isn't that bad. My dilema is both cars have the OLM which is nice and easy but the G5 goes alot longer, making me think it might be better to put synthetic in it.....then I look at the prices!

 

[Virtuoso]

I'd rather have the lunch.

 

[jeepman]

Originally Posted By: ZZman
Originally Posted By: Scotty1981
If someone was switching to synthetic without extending the OCI would the synthetic still offer any benefit such as better protection/lubrication or is a longer OCI the only benefit over dino?


Well if you believe the oil companies and all their research ...YES.


That is marketing hype, not research. Most modern dino's turn in as good or better used oil analysis on this board as their synthetic counterparts. Don't get me wrong, I'm not running a dino out to 10k, but very few who tout the special properties of synthetics do either. 5000-7500 on dino is fine in most cases. But no one has every shown factual evidence that using a synthetic for that same time frame has any advantage, except in extreme conditions such as the equator or artic circle. Under normal driving conditions in moderate climates, conventional and synthetic are equal in most regards for a reasonable OCI.

 

[Scotty1981]

Originally Posted By: Virtuoso
I'd rather have the lunch.


Some days, me too, but most days I'd probably go with the syn.