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"On edit to add, I'm also sorry to sound harsh, but I doubt you could yourself could complete my job task.. We hire people, and very few can make the job, the 12 hour swing shift on a concrete floor is one thing, learning curve another.. and the few that do make the job can't perform the job, they are incapable of learning curve required to do so... "
Been there,done that brother.Working 14+ hour shifts in a unheated warehouse on a concrete floor.Now i'm just a Firefighter and just a little more of a physically demanding job......Just a little.Sure i have a lot of wear and tare on my discs/back/joints but not as bad as you yet.
 
Is the standard for disability that you cannot do the work you previously did or is it you are unable to do any type of work? I thought it was or used to be the former. Sure, one could theoretically find a job that had little physical demand. Maybe one could go straight from being a production worker to part-time CEO. There's lots of those types of jobs lol.

Also I was curious about having a disibility and receiving resonable accomodations by your employer or hiring preference for civil service/government jobs. Does a Dr's diagnosis suffice or do you need to be deemed to have a disability by SSA? That could be a catch-22.

I think anyone who has a disabling condition and has payed into SS should not feel bad about getting disability. That is what it is there for. And let's face it, even if you did work you are probably not the most competitive employee. Employers are all about competiveness and performance not charity. We have enough unemployed youth and able-bodied. The old and truly disabled shouldn't be forced to work and suffer pain or aggravate their condition.
 
Get a lawyer who specializes in disability and employment law.

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"On edit to add, I'm also sorry to sound harsh, but I doubt you could yourself could complete my job task.. We hire people, and very few can make the job, the 12 hour swing shift on a concrete floor is one thing, learning curve another.. and the few that do make the job can't perform the job, they are incapable of learning curve required to do so... "

Not to be nosey, but what exactly do you do thats so harsh on your body ?
 
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I would not get an attorney until at least the first denial. Could you imagine giving that guy 25% of your income for the rest of your life, for what could be a pretty easy/strong case? And if you do get better in a year or two could you imagine how PO'd he'd be to lose your payment? Make sure any contract doesn't have a clause regarding this.

Even at 34 you've put enough money into the system to get a reasonable SSD payment... but what sort of health insurance you get with that I have no idea, medicaid?
It is not 25% for the rest of your life.It is a one time payment that comes out of any back pay that the claimant gets if they win.You pay nothing upfront and only pay the 25% if you win.

As far as insurance,the OP would most likely get SSD which is Social Security Disability.He would then get Mecicare after being on disability after two years.He probably would not get medicaide but that differs from state to state on the income limit for that.Also,having kids will most likley make a difference too.

If the OP has a doctor that will back him and an attorney/rep from the very start,he has a much better chance of getting disability and doing it quicker.

You dont want to wait to get an atty/rep until you are denied,you want one at the start of the process.They get everything going and help with paper work and such.They will tell you if you have a case and will help to get what you need filed as evidence when it needs to be filed and in the correct way.

You dont have to be out of work for a year either,you can sign up for disability as soon as you are no longer able to work but you have to be out of work for 5 months to qualify for SSD,until then,you can sign up for SSI.

I think it is terrible that some here on the board have made some of the comments to the OP that they have.Some here are cold and seem to lack any feelings for a person that has worked since they were 14 years old.This is not some guy that is a bum but some here are acting as if he is.

Shame on those that have done so,none of you know when you may be in the same boat.
 
My job is Machine Technician in a textile plant.. 12 hour swing shift, and 1 hour drive each way to work/home. I worked local for many years, they shut the plant down, so I helped move the machines to another location, then moved to my current location. I have to do a lot of jerking which really kills my neck/arm, I can work smart on wrenching using leverage, and even ask for help at times.. but it's an every day task when working I have to jerk very hard to clear clogged passages ( i can't go into much detail I hate to get fired as my place of work is very very confidential )

I swear I'm not trying to work the system, I have spent hundreds of dollars on pillows thinking I may get some relief from the night time dead arm, I have at least refused to take nerve meds so far to help me with sleep... my wife left me when my pay check started shrinking, and I started becoming a liability instead of a paycheck.. and she left the kids with me... however we come together ( I did it for the best of my kids no kids need to hate their mother) and we have split custody now.. I know two sides to every story, but I again swear this is true... for an internet forum I guess that does not mean much... Just judging from my wife leaving me, personal job offers to me which would have been almost double income, half the driving yet the conversation was over when i explained my condition... I guess this has gave me a mind set.

Can I still function, work maybe part time etc sure, 14 hours or so a week, but I have a family to support, and even at that the pay would be pretty low.. Is this how they look at it, if I can work 14 maybe 24 hours a week part time, when all my life I have made good money, been on the cutting edge of technology within my working environment... and if i could get a part time job would they let me work when I don't hurt which I can't schedule when my pain level is all over the place...

Previous poster, as you said the lady that worked, took less pain meds etc, and she died a few weeks ago due complications from a spinal procedure... if that were me who would take care of my two kids 10, and 5 ?

By the way my doctor helped me get a discount on one of my meds, it's called lyrica, the price on a bottle if 80 is $384, and that's monthly !! He could not believe the price and at first I thought he didn't think I was telling the truth, I told him I would bring him a receipt, but he was not believing that they would/could charge this amount.. he called the company, and got me a rebate card where I only have to pay around $30 a month.
 
Originally Posted By: rclint



Previous poster, as you said the lady that worked, took less pain meds etc, and she died a few weeks ago due complications from a spinal procedure... if that were me who would take care of my two kids 10, and 5 ?



Heaven forbid something happen to you but......wouldn't your ex take care of the kids???
 
"Previous poster, as you said the lady that worked, took less pain meds etc, and she died a few weeks ago due complications from a spinal procedure... if that were me who would take care of my two kids 10, and 5 ?"

She caught spinal menengitis in the hospital,Didn't recover from that.If you get run over crossing the street who is going to take care of them?
 
Originally Posted By: QuOk
"On edit to add, I'm also sorry to sound harsh, but I doubt you could yourself could complete my job task.. We hire people, and very few can make the job, the 12 hour swing shift on a concrete floor is one thing, learning curve another.. and the few that do make the job can't perform the job, they are incapable of learning curve required to do so... "
Been there,done that brother.Working 14+ hour shifts in a unheated warehouse on a concrete floor.Now i'm just a Firefighter and just a little more of a physically demanding job......Just a little.Sure i have a lot of wear and tare on my discs/back/joints but not as bad as you yet.






Stop posting. You're adding NOTHING to this thread but hyperbole and negative comments towards someone who needs help. You are not the original poster. You have no clue how much pain he might be in. Get over yourself super trucker.

To the OP, I'd for sure try to get disability with the help of an attorney and your doctors, but in the meantime, try and find another less physical job, and also see what kind of paid medical leave your company offers.

At 34, you might not want to be stuck on disability forever with no future prospect of working again. Just some food for thought. If you do get disability, you can work part time up to a limit.

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10095.html#part2

See if you can work with your company about doing the trial period for SSDI while also trying to find another job that you're capable of doing without agony.

Good luck.
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"Stop posting. You're adding NOTHING to this thread but hyperbole and negative comments towards someone who needs help. You are not the original poster. You have no clue how much pain he might be in. Get over yourself super trucker."

5 years from now when he is still trying to qualify for disability he may wish he took my advice to change careers.
Maybe you could support him in the meantime?

Good luck with your Disabilty case.
 
Originally Posted By: QuOk
5 years from now when he is still trying to qualify for disability he may wish he took my advice to change careers.
Maybe you could support him in the meantime?

Good luck with your Disabilty case.


Unless you have had chronic pain,you dont know what it is like.Changing jobs most likely wont help enough to amount to anything.Pain is something that sometimes you dont just get rid of by changing what you do and the OP sounds like someone that fits that description.

I am sure that you have had a bad tooth ache in your life that didnt get any better after taken meds.,now,take that pain and apply it to a large part of your body and you might get an idea of how bad a bad back or neck can be for some people.

The OP has from what he has said,nerves that are being irritated/compressed and when a nerve gets that way,that is some of the worst pain that you can have and changing jobs is not going to help in many cases.
 
Originally Posted By: rclint
I have been having fighting neck problems for some time now, and I have several MRI's, and my doctor will also back me up as well as to the extent of my problems. My neck is pretty much shot from c3-c7 with spurs, stenosis, osteophytes, (one or more herniated disc) foraminal narrowing.. every one is effected on at least one of these, and several are effected on more than one, and one disc has all of the above. On top of that I'm one of the very very few people who was born with an extra rib in the neck, a cervical rib.. not a nub etc, a full rub that extends 3/4 in the x-ray that looks like something out of a horror movie. I also have stenosis down the rest of my back/thorasic spine. I'm 34 years old, and have two kids to raise... I have spent tons of money on doctors, and also have missed a lot of work because of my neck, my doctor also told me that he knew I had to be out, and I have a FMLA. BUT I also work on a production job, I love my job, and have been working with the company 17 years, but my work is very strenuous, and I can not complete my job task anymore. I have tried, and tried every way i know.. I'm on pain medication, and that's just a fact, yet my shift is a swing shift, and I can't set a schedule for my meds, yet I can't run out, nor can I alter more than I take as I signed a contract.. and I don't want to abuse any pain meds. I'm at my limit of the meds I take, I take strong meds, both long term slow release, and for what they call breakthrough which is when my neck is killing me, or to get through to the next long term pain med. My doctor told me to let him know when I have had enough, and a couple of days ago I did, but what can I do

My options disability, I would take this.. and I'm not trying in any way to work the system.. I have worked since I was 14 years old not off, and on, but regular work, I also worked during high school after turning 16 paying in ssi, and have worked ever since that time, if I could continue work I would.. but I can't..

My doctor asked me what i wanted to do, and I told him I wanted to get my neck fixed, he said he was going to send me to a neurosurgeon just to see if he could help me out any, but he didn't know what if anything it would help if I go right back to my job jerking, and on my feet which is not so bad walking 12 hours.. 8 hours would not be so bad.. but the shift is 12 hour swing.

I'm in a horrible situation, I can't loose my insurance, yet I can't complete a work week to say the least, I try to go in work as many hours as I can before either my neck starts hurting so bad, my neck, arm, shoulder etc goes into spasm that I have to go home.. My works has been so good to me, but I do also know that they can't keep on doing this as they need someone on this production job, and they are not even talking of anything of a job change to a lesser hour job, or a straight shift...

I don't want any sympathy at all, but I want some advice.. my time is over I can't do it anymore.. I have heard to get disability your looking at two years or more !! but I have two kids, and Christmas is not going to be much at all this year ( this kills me) I can't even cook for my kids anymore which my parents help out with that, and I would loose my house everything I own.. and I have no idea how I would provide for my kids in 2 years with no pay !!

If I get surgery, and as the doctor said go back to work doing the same thing, it will be the same story over again, and myself thinking it may even be worse after they perform surgery I would think it would make my neck weaker, the doctor said they may be able to do some cleaning up/out between the joints etc.. ( i forget the exact term)


Is there any options for someone 9single male) trying to raise two kids who has tried to fight as long as he can, but just can not go any more.. ? Any help would be appreciated, if you have gone through this, or know someone please let me know how long etc..

on edit I have been to a neurosurgeon 4 times to see about having surgery done, they wouldn't touch me... and told me that I had a pain management problem. The neurosurgeon was/is one of the best, and has written books etc on how to etc, and I was told that he is the one whom other doctors go to when they need surgery on the spine etc


Regardless of your condition and what your Dr's say plan on being denied on your 1st application with about a 95%+ guarantee. You can also pretty much bet on the fact you will only receive disability these days following an appeal of a denial. Almost no one gets approved, regardless of how seriously they are disabled, the 1st time. I would wager it will take you a minimum of a year and plan on 2+ years to get approved( and by this I mean the appeals process )unless you are lucky. There are always those who try and abuse the system and they should be stopped but SS has gone way over board and truly disabled people are being denied. It is a travesty.

Plan on being told you can still work, and even at your current job, even if it is impossible. Plan on them basing the decision on only part of the Dr's reports they receive as well while conventiently not using the ones from the Dr's who actually treat you for the condition and affirm you are disabled. They will use every trick in the book to deny you.

I applied not long ago due to Multiple Sclerosis. My lines of work were carpentry/remodeling as well as some web design work. The MS has made me very weak( chronic fatigue - I wake up as tired and worn out as I was when I went to bed - have to take a couple naps each day and need 10-12 hours sleep at night just to barely function )although thankfully I am not crippled at this time, has made me intolerant of activity in heat( even just warm weather - I actually had to be rushed to the ER this summer when I over did it on a hot humid day ), and has also effected my vision( loss of some vision as well as extreme light sensitivity ). I don't have the strength to do a physical job like the carpentry work anymore and I can't anyway as I suffer from heat intolerance. Also, due to vision issues I can not safely use power tools nor do the fine detail work that is needed. Prolonged use of computers causes severe migraine like head aches as well so I am limited to about 2 hours max of computer use a day and even that causes some pain. My former line of work( auto parts )requires too much standing and too much computer work so I can't do that either. I couldn't even be a darn delivery driver anymore.

I was denied benefits and told I could still do either job which is complete and utter rubbish. They did not even consult my Neurologist who treats me for the MS. Instead they contacted the MRI Lab who just has technicians running the machines and the eye exam place that originally saw me for eye pain and sent me to a Neurolgist. THAT is how they operate. They stay away from the people who wiill tell them yes you are disabled and talk to people who have no basis offering even an opinion.

I am 43 years old, sick, and unable to work. Paid SS since I was 14( started working in High School ). The system is not set up to help people who really need it and paid for it. It is set up to help illegals and scum bags who never have worked a day in their life. Those people can get disability and other benefits with ease but god forbid someone who is really disabled and has paid towards the benefits get it without a bloody fight.

Mu oldest Sister( 58 )has been disabled by diabetes. She has so many problems it is not even funny due to the diabetes( vision, joints, tons of general health problems, etc... )including a severe pain issue with her legs and feet that make it almost impossible for her to walk. SS denied her too and told her she could still work no sweat despite statement after statement by her DR's she has one of the worst cases of neuropathy in her legs they have ever seen with a person still able to walk plus all the other issues she has as a result of the diabetes. It took her 18 months and a SS disability specialist( lawyer )to get her benefits on appeal( where the judge/arbitrator ripped SS a new one for denying her initial claim btw ).

I wish you the best of luck. Like you I don't want sympathy. I got sick and I will deal with it. What elese can you do? It infuriates me to no end however that programs designed to help me now that I am sick and not able to work, that I have paid into all this time, are being denied to me yet people who have never workd and are not even citizens of the country can get benefits with ease. Just not right.
 
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Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: rclint
I have been having fighting neck problems for some time now, and I have several MRI's, and my doctor will also back me up as well as to the extent of my problems. My neck is pretty much shot from c3-c7 with spurs, stenosis, osteophytes, (one or more herniated disc) foraminal narrowing.. every one is effected on at least one of these, and several are effected on more than one, and one disc has all of the above. On top of that I'm one of the very very few people who was born with an extra rib in the neck, a cervical rib.. not a nub etc, a full rub that extends 3/4 in the x-ray that looks like something out of a horror movie. I also have stenosis down the rest of my back/thorasic spine. I'm 34 years old, and have two kids to raise... I have spent tons of money on doctors, and also have missed a lot of work because of my neck, my doctor also told me that he knew I had to be out, and I have a FMLA. BUT I also work on a production job, I love my job, and have been working with the company 17 years, but my work is very strenuous, and I can not complete my job task anymore. I have tried, and tried every way i know.. I'm on pain medication, and that's just a fact, yet my shift is a swing shift, and I can't set a schedule for my meds, yet I can't run out, nor can I alter more than I take as I signed a contract.. and I don't want to abuse any pain meds. I'm at my limit of the meds I take, I take strong meds, both long term slow release, and for what they call breakthrough which is when my neck is killing me, or to get through to the next long term pain med. My doctor told me to let him know when I have had enough, and a couple of days ago I did, but what can I do

My options disability, I would take this.. and I'm not trying in any way to work the system.. I have worked since I was 14 years old not off, and on, but regular work, I also worked during high school after turning 16 paying in ssi, and have worked ever since that time, if I could continue work I would.. but I can't..

My doctor asked me what i wanted to do, and I told him I wanted to get my neck fixed, he said he was going to send me to a neurosurgeon just to see if he could help me out any, but he didn't know what if anything it would help if I go right back to my job jerking, and on my feet which is not so bad walking 12 hours.. 8 hours would not be so bad.. but the shift is 12 hour swing.

I'm in a horrible situation, I can't loose my insurance, yet I can't complete a work week to say the least, I try to go in work as many hours as I can before either my neck starts hurting so bad, my neck, arm, shoulder etc goes into spasm that I have to go home.. My works has been so good to me, but I do also know that they can't keep on doing this as they need someone on this production job, and they are not even talking of anything of a job change to a lesser hour job, or a straight shift...

I don't want any sympathy at all, but I want some advice.. my time is over I can't do it anymore.. I have heard to get disability your looking at two years or more !! but I have two kids, and Christmas is not going to be much at all this year ( this kills me) I can't even cook for my kids anymore which my parents help out with that, and I would loose my house everything I own.. and I have no idea how I would provide for my kids in 2 years with no pay !!

If I get surgery, and as the doctor said go back to work doing the same thing, it will be the same story over again, and myself thinking it may even be worse after they perform surgery I would think it would make my neck weaker, the doctor said they may be able to do some cleaning up/out between the joints etc.. ( i forget the exact term)


Is there any options for someone 9single male) trying to raise two kids who has tried to fight as long as he can, but just can not go any more.. ? Any help would be appreciated, if you have gone through this, or know someone please let me know how long etc..

on edit I have been to a neurosurgeon 4 times to see about having surgery done, they wouldn't touch me... and told me that I had a pain management problem. The neurosurgeon was/is one of the best, and has written books etc on how to etc, and I was told that he is the one whom other doctors go to when they need surgery on the spine etc


Regardless of your condition and what your Dr's say plan on being denied on your 1st application with about a 95%+ guarantee. You can also pretty much bet on the fact you will only receive disability these days following an appeal of a denial. Almost no one gets approved, regardless of how seriously they are disabled, the 1st time. I would wager it will take you a minimum of a year and plan on 2+ years to get approved( and by this I mean the appeals process )unless you are lucky. There are always those who try and abuse the system and they should be stopped but SS has gone way over board and truly disabled people are being denied. It is a travesty.

Plan on being told you can still work, and even at your current job, even if it is impossible. Plan on them basing the decision on only part of the Dr's reports they receive as well while conventiently not using the ones from the Dr's who actually treat you for the condition and affirm you are disabled. They will use every trick in the book to deny you.

I applied not long ago due to Multiple Sclerosis. My lines of work were carpentry/remodeling as well as some web design work. The MS has made me very weak( chronic fatigue - I wake up as tired and worn out as I was when I went to bed - have to take a couple naps each day and need 10-12 hours sleep at night just to barely function )although thankfully I am not crippled at this time, has made me intolerant of activity in heat( even just warm weather - I actually had to be rushed to the ER this summer when I over did it on a hot humid day ), and has also effected my vision( loss of some vision as well as extreme light sensitivity ). I don't have the strength to do a physical job like the carpentry work anymore and I can't anyway as I suffer from heat intolerance. Also, due to vision issues I can not safely use power tools nor do the fine detail work that is needed. Prolonged use of computers causes severe migraine like head aches as well so I am limited to about 2 hours max of computer use a day and even that causes some pain. My former line of work( auto parts )requires too much standing and too much computer work so I can't do that either. I couldn't even be a darn delivery driver anymore.

I was denied benefits and told I could still do either job which is complete and utter rubbish. They did not even consult my Neurologist who treats me for the MS. Instead they contacted the MRI Lab who just has technicians running the machines and the eye exam place that originally saw me for eye pain and sent me to a Neurolgist. THAT is how they operate. They stay away from the people who wiill tell them yes you are disabled and talk to people who have no basis offering even an opinion.

I am 43 years old, sick, and unable to work. Paid SS since I was 14( started working in High School ). The system is not set up to help people who really need it and paid for it. It is set up to help illegals and scum bags who never have worked a day in their life. Those people can get disability and other benefits with ease but god forbid someone who is really disabled and has paid towards the benefits get it without a bloody fight.

Mu oldest Sister( 58 )has been disabled by diabetes. She has so many problems it is not even funny due to the diabetes( vision, joints, tons of general health problems, etc... )including a severe pain issue with her legs and feet that make it almost impossible for her to walk. SS denied her too and told her she could still work no sweat despite statement after statement by her DR's she has one of the worst cases of neuropathy in her legs they have ever seen with a person still able to walk plus all the other issues she has as a result of the diabetes. It took her 18 months and a SS disability specialist( lawyer )to get her benefits on appeal( where the judge/arbitrator ripped SS a new one for denying her initial claim btw ).

I wish you the best of luck. Like you I don't want sympathy. I got sick and I will deal with it. What elese can you do? It infuriates me to no end however that programs designed to help me now that I am sick and not able to work, that I have paid into all this time, are being denied to me yet people who have never workd and are not even citizens of the country can get benefits with ease. Just not right.


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I dont know how you or others have went about trying to get your disability but I cant stress enough that if ANYONE is trying to get disability,get an attorney/representative from the very start,dont wait until you are denied to do this.

When you get an atty/rep from the start,they will help you fill out paperwork and do it in a way that Soc. Sec. will have a harder time useing there tricks to deny you.The atty/rep will file the paperwork for you,you wont even have to go to the Soc. Sec. office.

The atty/rep will make sure that your medical information is submitted on time and when it is supposed to be.Many dont know that Soc. Sec. will only allow medical information to be submitted at certain times during the process and if it isnt done right,it isnt considered.

It is much better to get an atty/rep from the very start,they dont get ANY money unless,and if,you win your case and then it is ONLY 25% of any back pay that you get,it is not for the duration of you disability.

If you get your disability in a year and say you get $12,000.00 in back pay,the atty/rep would get a fee of $3,000.00 and that must be approved by Soc. Sec.
Again,if you dont win,you dont pay them anything.

Some may say that this is a lot to give someone but you have to look at it from the long term side,you have your disability and will have one less thing to worry about.
 
Originally Posted By: QuOk
My wife worked with a woman that was quadriplegic,If she could work anyone can.


Really? Anyone can?

So Terry Schiavo and Karen Quinlan were just slacking off all those years in a persistent vegetative state then.

You really should think some before making such blanket statements.


I'm on disability too.
 
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To rclint and NHHEMI, Been there, done that. You have paid into SS, which includes paying for possible disability and it is yours by right when you quality. I have no doubt that you qualify and should get the benefit you have paid for. Rclint, I hope and pray that you will get the benefit you paid for and deserve. NHHEMI, I'm glad you got your coverage you paid for.
I was a numbers cruncher, on a big scale for a local government. I was also running 6 or 12 miles 5 days each week. No laziness can be suspected here. Then it hit me. First, the pain in my lower back, legs and feet. I could handle the pain to some degree, but my motor (nerve) capabilities put me onto the floor and I couldn't do anything about it. I completely lost the keen ability I had working with figures. Personnel Development asked me to submit two doctor's statements on my ability to work. I turned in FIVE, all of which strongly stated I was 100% and permanently unable to work.
For you that haven't been there some of you cannot understand it. This comes at a price among your work associates and a big price among people in a church if you're in one. You lose a bit of esteem. However, if you have to go through it you just must take that road.
I was on a local government pension fund and didn't have to go through the struggle with SS. They sent me to a neurosurgeon who told me it was supposed to be his job to block my disability retirement. When he examined me and reviewed the statements from the five doctors I had submitted he agreed fully with them and I went into immediate retirement.
My disorder is a (non specific) neurological deficit disorder. The one they thought I had would have been fatal (so they told my wife and me). They told me that in some of these cases the exact one can be determined only at autopsy. I've stayed around and in the way of that one.
While I feel for you, rcling and NHHEMI, with the stress of work removed you can have a life when you are removed from the pressure of it. No one has any right to regret that you (and I) get what we paid for and when it is fully deserved and there was no other choice.
 
I think it is cruel for those that have made disparaging remarks about the one(s) that is/are trying to get disability.There are those that work the system but there are those that can no longer work and they need the disability and it is plain to see that these are not working the system

I have said it before and I will say it again,NO ONE on this board knows when they THEMSELVES could be in a similar situation and not ONE of you would want to be told the things that YOU have said here.

Those that have said some of the things they have said were uncalled for and disrespectful and in some ways,childish.

The lack of descency and respect for a fellow man that has become unable to work is just,astounding.
 
Originally Posted By: motorguy222


I have said it before and I will say it again,NO ONE on this board knows when they THEMSELVES could be in a similar situation and not ONE of you would want to be told the things that YOU have said here.

Those that have said some of the things they have said were uncalled for and disrespectful and in some ways,childish.

The lack of descency and respect for a fellow man that has become unable to work is just,astounding.



Thank you for that. I am a person who was never sick a day in my life to speak of. The flu now and then and a few sports accidents resulting in sprains as a kid. Got shot once while target shooting( guy with me was not paying attention to where he was pointing his gun )and ended up with a hole in my hand and a broken wrist and forearm as a result. Never "sick" though and never in the hospital other than an in and out same day to remove the bullet in my arm. Very healthy person until late 2007.

In late 2007 I started to feel odd. Couldn't explain it but I was becoming tired and just felt blah all the time. Had trouble working the construction jobs and would come home and just pass out in bed I was so tired. It got worse and worse but no Dr could figure it out. Blood work was all great and no tests showed anything wrong. This went on until March 2009 when I started having trouble with my left eye that eventually lead to the diagnosis.

Woke up on a Tuesday with such pain behind the left eye I almost couldn't take it. By Friday I was out of my mind in pain and the vision was gone( clouded over like milk being poured across my face ). That started visits to many Dr's and specialists until finally in June an MRI revealed Multiple Sclerosis.

It is behind my chronic fatigue and the vision issues. I am one of the lucky ones though in that it has not crippled me. Yet anyway. When I go for steroid treatments or MRI's and I see what it has done to others with this disease it scares the living beejesus out of me. At some point chances are I will be wheel chair bound and possibly in a vegetative state( mind will work but nothing else will - can't talk or move ). That is a great future for someone just 43 to have to look forward to.

I am 6' 3" and 300lbs and have always been a big strong guy that was the one to call when a real physical job was needed to be done. My 12 year old nephew has more strength than I do now. It S U C K S! I can't go grocery shopping without becoming exhausted and sweaty from exertion. I don't want to take ANY assistance at all. I hate it. I delayed as long as I could before doing it but I have no chocie. I can not work. Not even part time sitting down.

I actually have NOT received any SS benefits for those who think I have. My Sister won her appeal and got benefits but I am not receiving any. I have been denied and told I can work no problem even though mowing the lawn is almost more than I can do now. I have to have an MRI 2X's a year at 4K a pop, I have to have medicine( shots )3X's a week at $3000 for the month( which btw give me severe physical and emotional side effects ), and I have to regularly go to the Dr's for blood work and check ups to make sure the MS med's are not causing liver, kidney, etc... problems. That runs a good $400 a month. My savings accounts are completely wiped out and I have little to no money coming in( I do a little web design on the side but under $200 a month ). I have had to swallow my pride and ask for medical assistance. Thank god the medicine company will provide me the shots at no charge or I would be in real bad shape.

Things are ROUGH! None of this is for sympathy either. I just want those who are disparaging people applying for benefits to stop and think "but for the grace of god there go I". Remember, until the MS hit me I was healthy and had never had anything but minor illnesses and injuries. This hit me literally out of the blue with no warning. I only hope those slamming those of us with real disabilities never have to go through this. I would wish it on NO ONE! Stuff like this literally destroys your life and it is not as easy to remedy as just getting a different job as some seem to think.

Sorry for the rant. Having a bad day.
 
Originally Posted By: QuOk
"Previous poster, as you said the lady that worked, took less pain meds etc, and she died a few weeks ago due complications from a spinal procedure... if that were me who would take care of my two kids 10, and 5 ?"

She caught spinal menengitis in the hospital,Didn't recover from that.If you get run over crossing the street who is going to take care of them?


Was it your wife that caught spinal meningitis or the OP?
If it is you then I'm sorry.
No family to take care of them?

I'm confused...over and out!
 
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There is a string of illinesses that have broad and varying dibilitating symptoms, MS, chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, chronic pain and several I'm forgetting. Most of them are not life threatening, like say cancer, but they can be very painful and dibilitating. Medicine doesn't know the cause or know a cure (how much do they cure anyway?). Some Drs are so ignorant to even chalk it up to depression. The thing is they all can be as disabling as paralysis from what I've heard. These conditions seem more common for some reason.

I guess since the problem is hard to see or understand SS thinks it is not disabling. Or maybe it's just SS just wants to prevent paying out disability regardless. I'm sure no one just suddently decides to fake an mysterious systemic illness one day. I'm sure some might overplay an injury or back pain sometimes. Anyway there is a whole list of illnesses out there that seem to damage the nervous system's operation and cause pain and fatigue. Some people even wonder if all the innoculations we have might be part of the cause.
 
I am 57 and am on SSI. It took Me years $ 3 Lawyers to get the SSI. I have 3 bad discs in My Back that are ruptured..all the disc's in My Neck are shot..I live with Migrains everyday and also have Fibromyalgia.
I have seen the best Orthopedic Surgeons and they all say that there is nothing they can do for My back & My back well yes they can do surgery which would take about 9 or so hours & the outcome is not very good. The DR's said that there would be 3 outcomes of the surgery: I could come out okay.. be paralyzed or die on the table. Guess what I took?? No surgery with those odds. I am on some pain meds like Oxycodone,Hydrocodone & other meds for the other things.
So please dont condeem someone without any knowledge & thank the Lord that You dont suffer from something alike!
rclint: Get a good Lawyer & plenty of proof as far as medical records!! The more the better & a VERY good Lawyer that specializes in disability cases & prepare for a LOOOoong drawn out battle. Good luck to You.
 
I would like to thank everyone who has commented with help, information, and those that even stepped in to not only take up for me, but also give me, and those others what everyone should be given which is a big thing in this country Not guilty until proven guilty which in my case it was hinted at, or outright said to get off my rump stop trying to get on the wagon etc etc..

I'm the OP, and I did not catch anything, I commented about the other posters comment. I also have two kids to take care of.

As of today I'm somewhat better today, I had a rough couple of days in a row where it was all i could do to just get out of the bed when I made this post.. I had been bed all day thinking I have had enough of this junk... I will say I'm having more bad days now than good.. and I'm scared to death what this is going to progress in to.. I do know for a fact that a lot of things can be helped by having a good attitude, I try my very best to have a good attitude, and know that others are out there far worse than myself.. I have seen them in some of the pain clinics, doctors/waiting room before getting a shot, neurologist etc.. However pain can be very depressing as well, and I guess at times I do get depressed.

As for working, or wagon, or any of that nonsense, I was working my job knocking out great money 50k on the job which is great for my area, and then I also worked at home doing research, writing up manuals, procedures, and also development work in ceramics, friction modifiers, friction reducing alone I worked on several projects well over a year. Also I worked in even designing some chemicals to prevent parts from freezing up, many times this was due to time part was in a stress environment, also from galvanic corrosion.. I really enjoyed this type of work, and loved being on the cutting edge.. so to speak, had vast resources to work with etc.. Then I also had a lathe (Clausing 10"x36") which is a full sized lathe, a nice older well built lathe in the USA.. I turned a good profit using the lathe making parts, sometimes for work, but also for others, and enjoyed using it doing "wanna be gunsmith work" I still have the lathe, but may use it 3-4 times a year, I can't bend over anymore to run it, the position it puts my neck in I just can't do it. I also had a small anodizing business going, not huge, but all I could do as a side job, and it got to big for me at that.. this was also fun learning, but I will admit it became boring very fast just a repeat boring job.. occasionally I got to do some fun work, and then also worked on type III true mill spec hardcoat...

I can't do the above anymore, and have also refused many side jobs, and work at home.. I have also missed a huge amount of work this year... I hope they can do something for my neck.. at this point that's all I can pray for.

I didn't write this out for a sob story at all, I felt hat after some accusations about my intent for requesting disability, and the information on disability I would post about post about my drive for work, enjoyment I got from working, and before my life started going down hill.

I would also again like to than everyone who posted with information, and those concerned with me getting information without being labeled as to sorry to work..
 
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