Question to Hazet Specialists
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I am not a fine tooth ratchet fan, i do use them occasionally for close quarter work, its personal preference but most Europeans use coarse tooth ratchets as their 'normal' go to ratchet.
Fine tooth and flex heads are considered specialty ratchets so its unusual to find them with quick release.
I have nothing against fine tooth its just not my preference, some people hate coarse tooth but may never have tried a high end one with a very smooth mechanism.
The difference in the 8816-1 and the 8816 S are..
The 8816-1 is a 72 tooth with no QR and the teeth are in the body of the ratchet with the pawls in the middle drum.
The 8816 S is a QR 30 tooth with the pawl in the body and the teeth on the drum.
If the body teeth ever strip (unlikely) on the 8816-1 you need to warranty it, the 8816S is totally rebuildable. The 8816S is much stronger.
Hazet ratchets ending in S are quick release and are AFAIK all coarse (30) tooth.
These are my Hazets with a Wera Zyklop which is also a good ratchet.
L-R Wera Zyklop, 3/8 fine tooth, 3/8 flex, 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 all QR S models
Fine tooth and flex heads are considered specialty ratchets so its unusual to find them with quick release.
I have nothing against fine tooth its just not my preference, some people hate coarse tooth but may never have tried a high end one with a very smooth mechanism.
The difference in the 8816-1 and the 8816 S are..
The 8816-1 is a 72 tooth with no QR and the teeth are in the body of the ratchet with the pawls in the middle drum.
The 8816 S is a QR 30 tooth with the pawl in the body and the teeth on the drum.
If the body teeth ever strip (unlikely) on the 8816-1 you need to warranty it, the 8816S is totally rebuildable. The 8816S is much stronger.
Hazet ratchets ending in S are quick release and are AFAIK all coarse (30) tooth.
These are my Hazets with a Wera Zyklop which is also a good ratchet.
L-R Wera Zyklop, 3/8 fine tooth, 3/8 flex, 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 all QR S models
The Hazet fine tooth ratchet is nice. I use the 8816-F which has the outside selector wheel. Between that and the Hazet 8816 GG long flex handle angle ratchet, you will be in good shape to do most repairs.
I've had both since the 1980s..use the long flex 8816 GG all the time. The fine tooth 8816-F I use when the fine tooth is handy on tight locations.
The tools are still made in Germany and very robust.
I've had both since the 1980s..use the long flex 8816 GG all the time. The fine tooth 8816-F I use when the fine tooth is handy on tight locations.
The tools are still made in Germany and very robust.
Originally Posted By: DB_Cooper
The tools are still made in Germany and very robust.
Yes they are. Even the plastic grips are Made in Germany and available for a few Euro's, i have an extra one on hand for every ratchet.
The tools are still made in Germany and very robust.
Yes they are. Even the plastic grips are Made in Germany and available for a few Euro's, i have an extra one on hand for every ratchet.
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Originally Posted By: Trav
I am not a fine tooth ratchet fan, i do use them occasionally for close quarter work, its personal preference but most Europeans use coarse tooth ratchets as their 'normal' go to ratchet.
Fine tooth and flex heads are considered specialty ratchets so its unusual to find them with quick release.
I have nothing against fine tooth its just not my preference, some people hate coarse tooth but may never have tried a high end one with a very smooth mechanism.
The difference in the 8816-1 and the 8816 S are..
The 8816-1 is a 72 tooth with no QR and the teeth are in the body of the ratchet with the pawls in the middle drum.
The 8816 S is a QR 30 tooth with the pawl in the body and the teeth on the drum.
If the body teeth ever strip (unlikely) on the 8816-1 you need to warranty it, the 8816S is totally rebuildable. The 8816S is much stronger.
Hazet ratchets ending in S are quick release and are AFAIK all coarse (30) tooth.
These are my Hazets with a Wera Zyklop which is also a good ratchet.
L-R Wera Zyklop, 3/8 fine tooth, 3/8 flex, 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 all QR S models
Great info! Those babies look brand new, are they spares? My stuff gets dirty just looking at it!
I am not a fine tooth ratchet fan, i do use them occasionally for close quarter work, its personal preference but most Europeans use coarse tooth ratchets as their 'normal' go to ratchet.
Fine tooth and flex heads are considered specialty ratchets so its unusual to find them with quick release.
I have nothing against fine tooth its just not my preference, some people hate coarse tooth but may never have tried a high end one with a very smooth mechanism.
The difference in the 8816-1 and the 8816 S are..
The 8816-1 is a 72 tooth with no QR and the teeth are in the body of the ratchet with the pawls in the middle drum.
The 8816 S is a QR 30 tooth with the pawl in the body and the teeth on the drum.
If the body teeth ever strip (unlikely) on the 8816-1 you need to warranty it, the 8816S is totally rebuildable. The 8816S is much stronger.
Hazet ratchets ending in S are quick release and are AFAIK all coarse (30) tooth.
These are my Hazets with a Wera Zyklop which is also a good ratchet.
L-R Wera Zyklop, 3/8 fine tooth, 3/8 flex, 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 all QR S models
Great info! Those babies look brand new, are they spares? My stuff gets dirty just looking at it!
Now they are dirty.
I bought 3 of them to replace my old but still perfect non quick release ratchets.
Originally Posted By: Trav
The 8816S is much stronger.
Do you have any links showing this to be the case with these two ratchets?
In most cases, it 100% depends on the design of the mechanism, not whether a mechanism is "fine tooth" or "course tooth." A lot of the modern fine tooth ratchets are actually stronger than the older course designs because the greater number of teeth provides more contact area than the contact area on one or two large teeth.
The 8816S is much stronger.
Do you have any links showing this to be the case with these two ratchets?
In most cases, it 100% depends on the design of the mechanism, not whether a mechanism is "fine tooth" or "course tooth." A lot of the modern fine tooth ratchets are actually stronger than the older course designs because the greater number of teeth provides more contact area than the contact area on one or two large teeth.
Link no but if you go to Hazets website they may publish the data.
I was told that is the case by the Hazet rep.
As you say it has nothing to do with the fact it is fine tooth or coarse tooth it has more to do with the type of mechanism.
I was told that is the case by the Hazet rep.
As you say it has nothing to do with the fact it is fine tooth or coarse tooth it has more to do with the type of mechanism.
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