This has always bugged me. Why is it that in a store with double-doors, one is always locked? I almost always seem to grab the locked door. Why bother with two doors if one is always locked?
Question for anyone who works retail
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i'm going to guess laziness:
first because they didn't put any note with "==> use other door"
second, because whoever unlocked the door when opening the place , didn't bother with the second door.
third, i'm going to guess something about the "ballet" of moving to use one door is more obvious to recording cameras or cleric?
first because they didn't put any note with "==> use other door"
second, because whoever unlocked the door when opening the place , didn't bother with the second door.
third, i'm going to guess something about the "ballet" of moving to use one door is more obvious to recording cameras or cleric?
That bugs me too... I can understand if, on a windy day, one door needs to be locked to avoid it being caught by the wind, but that should be the exception rather than the rule.
The one that REALLY bugs me are the stores with 'entrance' doors far away from the 'exit' doors. Really? If I'm going in for one item and it happens to be really close to the 'exit', I can't go in there? Or if I can't find what I'm looking for and have to leave empty handed, and I just happen to be standing closer to the 'entrance', I can't go out that way? Ridiculous.
The one that REALLY bugs me are the stores with 'entrance' doors far away from the 'exit' doors. Really? If I'm going in for one item and it happens to be really close to the 'exit', I can't go in there? Or if I can't find what I'm looking for and have to leave empty handed, and I just happen to be standing closer to the 'entrance', I can't go out that way? Ridiculous.
The door that remains locked is the "slave" door. It has the slides or levers that lock it to the door jamb. If these are unlocked, they can sometimes remain unlocked at night, when an employee simply turns the key to "lock" the door. This locks the opening door to the slave door, but if the slave door is not locked to the building, both doors can still swing open in tandem.
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
The door that remains locked is the "slave" door. It has the slides or levers that lock it to the door jamb. If these are unlocked, they can sometimes remain unlocked at night, when an employee simply turns the key to "lock" the door. This locks the opening door to the slave door, but if the slave door is not locked to the building, both doors can still swing open in tandem.
Yep, I get that. Some houses are like that. But why is it that almost every business keeps that door locked?
The door that remains locked is the "slave" door. It has the slides or levers that lock it to the door jamb. If these are unlocked, they can sometimes remain unlocked at night, when an employee simply turns the key to "lock" the door. This locks the opening door to the slave door, but if the slave door is not locked to the building, both doors can still swing open in tandem.
Yep, I get that. Some houses are like that. But why is it that almost every business keeps that door locked?
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
The door that remains locked is the "slave" door. It has the slides or levers that lock it to the door jamb. If these are unlocked, they can sometimes remain unlocked at night, when an employee simply turns the key to "lock" the door. This locks the opening door to the slave door, but if the slave door is not locked to the building, both doors can still swing open in tandem.
from my restaurant days, this is easily defeated by: lock doors from inside, check they are locked, set alarm, go out trough back door.(employee does not need to know any code, just press the alarm/on button)
this goes against lazy/tired employees, and does not wake out the neighborhood if door open accidentaly
The door that remains locked is the "slave" door. It has the slides or levers that lock it to the door jamb. If these are unlocked, they can sometimes remain unlocked at night, when an employee simply turns the key to "lock" the door. This locks the opening door to the slave door, but if the slave door is not locked to the building, both doors can still swing open in tandem.
from my restaurant days, this is easily defeated by: lock doors from inside, check they are locked, set alarm, go out trough back door.(employee does not need to know any code, just press the alarm/on button)
this goes against lazy/tired employees, and does not wake out the neighborhood if door open accidentaly
Because if the doors are old pieces of junk, the "slave" door can be a real PITA to lock back up. I don't know about other stores, but that's why at the store I work at.
It's fun to watch people shake & rattle the locked side, when the other side is open.
Had a guy get super upset because he was trying to push the door open when it had to be pulled.
After I had a good laugh, I walk up to the door and push it open and he walks past me & says nothing.
Had a guy get super upset because he was trying to push the door open when it had to be pulled.
After I had a good laugh, I walk up to the door and push it open and he walks past me & says nothing.
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Wonder what the fire marshall thinks if the locked door doesn't open with a "panic bar".
That was my thought too. Don't the doors have to remain unlocked during business hours?
Wonder what the fire marshall thinks if the locked door doesn't open with a "panic bar".
That was my thought too. Don't the doors have to remain unlocked during business hours?
My favourite is when it's hot outside and the front doors are wide open and the A/C is cranked. What a waste.
Originally Posted By: GSCJR
My favourite is when it's hot outside and the front doors are wide open and the A/C is cranked. What a waste.
Sadly, employees might not have the ability to adjust it so that's just their way of making sure it isn't an icebox.
My favourite is when it's hot outside and the front doors are wide open and the A/C is cranked. What a waste.
Sadly, employees might not have the ability to adjust it so that's just their way of making sure it isn't an icebox.
Originally Posted By: exranger06
Because if the doors are old pieces of junk, the "slave" door can be a real PITA to lock back up. I don't know about other stores, but that's why at the store I work at.
This, when I worked retail, Sears, they were too cheap to fix stuff. We would bring up obvious safety issues in the shop and were told to just not use that piece of equipment, basically the "put a tarp over it and the problem goes away" approach.
Because if the doors are old pieces of junk, the "slave" door can be a real PITA to lock back up. I don't know about other stores, but that's why at the store I work at.
This, when I worked retail, Sears, they were too cheap to fix stuff. We would bring up obvious safety issues in the shop and were told to just not use that piece of equipment, basically the "put a tarp over it and the problem goes away" approach.
They do it here to keep the wind from holding the door open
Originally Posted By: danthaman1980
The one that REALLY bugs me are the stores with 'entrance' doors far away from the 'exit' doors. Really? If I'm going in for one item and it happens to be really close to the 'exit', I can't go in there? Or if I can't find what I'm looking for and have to leave empty handed, and I just happen to be standing closer to the 'entrance', I can't go out that way? Ridiculous.
Are you talking, perchance, about Home Depot or Lowe's? Most of their "exit" doors will open from the outside when you walk up to them. If they don't, you can stick your hand in between them and apply a little pressure and they will automatically open. I've never had a store employee gripe at me for doing it, but you never know.
The one that REALLY bugs me are the stores with 'entrance' doors far away from the 'exit' doors. Really? If I'm going in for one item and it happens to be really close to the 'exit', I can't go in there? Or if I can't find what I'm looking for and have to leave empty handed, and I just happen to be standing closer to the 'entrance', I can't go out that way? Ridiculous.
Are you talking, perchance, about Home Depot or Lowe's? Most of their "exit" doors will open from the outside when you walk up to them. If they don't, you can stick your hand in between them and apply a little pressure and they will automatically open. I've never had a store employee gripe at me for doing it, but you never know.
Here, Home Depot and Menards both have entrance and exit doors far apart on the building. I always park near the exit and go in the "out" door, and at Menards you then have to thread through an open sales lane to get into the store. I've never gotten more than a "Welcome to Menards" from the store personnel but some day somebody's going to have a fit I'm guessing. There's always closer and better parking near the exit than there is near the entrance, plus that's where the majority of the cart corrals are located.
Not only that, I'm a lot more likely to have an arm full of stuff coming out of the store than going in, so why make me walk farther? It makes no sense.
Originally Posted By: DBMaster
Originally Posted By: danthaman1980
The one that REALLY bugs me are the stores with 'entrance' doors far away from the 'exit' doors. Really? If I'm going in for one item and it happens to be really close to the 'exit', I can't go in there? Or if I can't find what I'm looking for and have to leave empty handed, and I just happen to be standing closer to the 'entrance', I can't go out that way? Ridiculous.
Are you talking, perchance, about Home Depot or Lowe's? Most of their "exit" doors will open from the outside when you walk up to them. If they don't, you can stick your hand in between them and apply a little pressure and they will automatically open. I've never had a store employee gripe at me for doing it, but you never know.
Not only that, I'm a lot more likely to have an arm full of stuff coming out of the store than going in, so why make me walk farther? It makes no sense.
Originally Posted By: DBMaster
Originally Posted By: danthaman1980
The one that REALLY bugs me are the stores with 'entrance' doors far away from the 'exit' doors. Really? If I'm going in for one item and it happens to be really close to the 'exit', I can't go in there? Or if I can't find what I'm looking for and have to leave empty handed, and I just happen to be standing closer to the 'entrance', I can't go out that way? Ridiculous.
Are you talking, perchance, about Home Depot or Lowe's? Most of their "exit" doors will open from the outside when you walk up to them. If they don't, you can stick your hand in between them and apply a little pressure and they will automatically open. I've never had a store employee gripe at me for doing it, but you never know.
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