PureOne Observations

[SuperBusa]

I just received 4 PureOnes from Amazon today. After some careful observations, this is what I noticed.

1) Small amount of yellow textured paint over spay around the outside edge of the gasket groove and a few small flakes on the base plate. I removed the gaskets on all 4 to see how much over spray was in the gasket groove. One of the 4 had 2 or 3 pretty big chunks under the gasket. Recommend removing and cleaning groove and gasket before use just to ensure the gasket doesn't leak. There was a thread about a leaky PureOne ... could be the issue.

2) No paint flakes inside the center core. So, recommend cleaning base area before use. I do this with all filters I use, and find that no matter what brand, there is always a small amount of contamination from manufacturing.

3) Base threads looked to be cut instead of rolled. No major burrs seen. Wiped with lint free rag and some WD-40, and got a slight amount of black residue off them. Probably cutting lube left over. I've seen this on WIX and NAPA Gold filters also.

I noticed on the box (PL14006 for the LS6 Vette) it says: "99.9%* Efficient -- *Based on ISO 4548-12 at 20 microns on PL30001.

The other box (PL14610 for V6 Altima) it says: "99.9%* Efficient -- *Based on ISO 4548-12 at 40 microns on PL30001.

Purolator's website says: "99.9%* Efficient -- *Based on ISO 4548-12 at 20 microns on PL30001.

http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/products/oil_filters/Pages/pureoneoilfilters.aspx

?? ... must be a misprint on the PL14610 box? Thought that was strange.

Overall, the PureOne looks to be very good ... just wish Purolator could still improve their masking technique when spraying the can with the textured paint! ... Purolator, are you reading BITOG?

 

[Turk]

Geez!

I will definitely open up the boxes before I buy 'em.

The 20/40 micron should be a misprint.

The other things are simply poor manufacturing & poor inspection.

Was it a blue or yellow can?

 

[SteveSRT8]

That's one of the cool things about an Amsoil filter.

It comes sealed in a plastic shrink wrap. If those paint flakes get in the wrong place they can do a lot of damage.

 

[Sayjac]

Just curious, how much does an Amsoil oil filter cost? The Pure One from Amazon after rebate is ~$2.75. The same or less if you buy them from AAP with the $10 coopin and rebate.

If I want shrink wrap I could get a Fram Xtended Guard for $7.97 at Wally World.

If I buy from Advance Auto I can open the box and check beforehand for any issues, which is exactly what I do. For the cost the effort to open the box and check is worth it for me.

In NO way am I saying Pure One or Fram Xtended Guard is Amsoil, and that's the point. Apples and oranges.

 

[demarpaint]

OP if you saw paint flecks on the gasket, it is possible you got one of the first batches of those filters, when they made the change to the puke color. I had about 10 of them ordered from Amazon.com. One call to Purolator, and they paid return shipping, and shipped me 10 new filters, no problems! I look at the filters when I'm in AAP and the problem has been corrected, at least on the filters I saw.

The company does stand by their products!

 

[chevrofreak]

When my 6 PL24651's showed up I inspected them inside for yellow flakes. None to be found. After reading this thread and seeing some overspray near the gasket, I removed one of the gaskets and did not find any overspray under it.

I think these must be the newest PureONE's, because the texture is just spattered paint without any kind of sand in it.

 

[daman]

those tiny paint flakes would hurt nothing even if they got into your engine,the silicon let in from your your air filter causes more problems.

 

[steve20]

""those tiny paint flakes would hurt nothing even if they got into your engine,the silicon let in from your your air filter causes more problems.""


how can you make a statement like that if you do not know what the yellow flakes are made of?

 

[Colt45ws]

Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
I think these must be the newest PureONE's, because the texture is just spattered paint without any kind of sand in it.

 

[patfan]

I purchased one for a saturn vue with the 3.5 Honda motor it was rated at 99%at 40 microns I emailed purolater this is their responce"
Thank you for your interest in our Purolator filtration products. We have researched your concern promptly and apologize for any confusion the website may have caused. All cartridge filters have a 40% micron rating and very few (total of 4) spin-on filter's have the 40% micron rating. This is where the "AS APPLICABLE" comes in. The product and packaging that you have (PL14610 spin-on) is indeed correct at 40 microns.

We here at Purolator sincerely appreciate your feedback as it is important to us, therefore to assure our on-going efforts to accommodate your concern's.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Katrina S. Hull
-------------------------------------------------
Robert Bosch, LLC
Light Automotive Filtration Division
AA-FI/MKT1-NA "
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net

 

[ctc]

Hmmm, gotta check the box next time.

 

[Sayjac]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
OP if you saw paint flecks on the gasket, it is possible you got one of the first batches of those filters, when they made the change to the puke color. I had about 10 of them ordered from Amazon.com. One call to Purolator, and they paid return shipping, and shipped me 10 new filters, no problems! I look at the filters when I'm in AAP and the problem has been corrected, at least on the filters I saw.

The company does stand by their products!
Good points. And as patman's quick response proves again, their customer service is reponsive to inquiries about filters.

 

[SuperBusa]

Originally Posted By: tpitcher
Geez!

I will definitely open up the boxes before I buy 'em.

The 20/40 micron should be a misprint.

The other things are simply poor manufacturing & poor inspection.

Was it a blue or yellow can?


I emailed Purolator Tech Dept about the 20/40 micron statements on the boxes to see what their response will be.

These were the new yellow models.

 

[SuperBusa]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
That's one of the cool things about an Amsoil filter.

It comes sealed in a plastic shrink wrap. If those paint flakes get in the wrong place they can do a lot of damage.


The "paint flakes" I'm talking about are from over spray when they painted the cans. The cans are obviously painted with the gaskets removed since the gaskets didn't really have any flakes on them.

If you remove the gaskets, you will see lots of over spray paint flakes in the gasket groove. If there are a lot, or some big flakes, it could possibly cause sealing issues with the gasket.

 

[SuperBusa]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
OP if you saw paint flecks on the gasket, it is possible you got one of the first batches of those filters, when they made the change to the puke color.


No real paint flakes on the gaskets ... mostly paint over spray issue I'm talking about. I think I got very fresh filters, as they were shipped from Kentucky where the Purolator factory is. I think Amazon just sends the orders on to Purolator and they ship direct from the factory.

 

[SuperBusa]

Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
When my 6 PL24651's showed up I inspected them inside for yellow flakes. None to be found. After reading this thread and seeing some overspray near the gasket, I removed one of the gaskets and did not find any overspray under it.

I think these must be the newest PureONE's, because the texture is just spattered paint without any kind of sand in it.


Wow ... not overspray at all inside the gasket groove? They must have been a little sloppy on my filters. Yes, I think these filters are super fresh, and the texture looks like rough paint only ... not sand, etc in the mix.

 

[SuperBusa]

Originally Posted By: patfan
I purchased one for a saturn vue with the 3.5 Honda motor it was rated at 99%at 40 microns I emailed purolater this is their responce:

Thank you for your interest in our Purolator filtration products. We have researched your concern promptly and apologize for any confusion the website may have caused. All cartridge filters have a 40% micron rating and very few (total of 4) spin-on filter's have the 40% micron rating. This is where the "AS APPLICABLE" comes in. The product and packaging that you have (PL14610 spin-on) is indeed correct at 40 microns.

We here at Purolator sincerely appreciate your feedback as it is important to us, therefore to assure our on-going efforts to accommodate your concern's.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Katrina S. Hull
-------------------------------------------------
Robert Bosch, LLC
Light Automotive Filtration Division
AA-FI/MKT1-NA "
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net


Thanks for the info. I'll have to look at the box again and see if I see the "as applicable" reference.

I guess even 99.9% at 40u isn't bad ... probably better than most filters.

It's kind of misleading, since on their website they make no distiction that some models will be worse than the 99.9% claim at 20u.

http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/products/oil_filters/Pages/pureoneoilfilters.aspx

 

[SuperBusa]

Guys - I found a good way to remove any textured paint over spray from the gasket groove.

Remove the gasket and spray some carb cleaner on a Q-tip. Swab out the gasket groove with wet Q-tip ... the carb cleaner will melt the over spray and leave the groove spotless. Reinstall gasket. Perfect seal surface ... like it should be.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
That's one of the cool things about an Amsoil filter.

It comes sealed in a plastic shrink wrap. If those paint flakes get in the wrong place they can do a lot of damage.


So do filters from Donaldson and Fleetguard.

 

[SHAMUS]

I would reinterate what Patfan quotes from Purolator; that the 40 micron rating is for CARTRIDGE filters, and (sadly) just 4 of their spin ons! For you Amsoil lovers, if I wanted to do long OCIs, I would also go with Amsoil, but for Purolators PureONE's better filtering effiencies and less than half the price, I have to stick with the ugly yellow can. For these two reasons, I'll put up with no plastic wrap.