PureOne Observations

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Originally Posted By: patfan
I purchased one for a saturn vue with the 3.5 Honda motor it was rated at 99%at 40 microns I emailed purolater this is their responce:

Thank you for your interest in our Purolator filtration products. We have researched your concern promptly and apologize for any confusion the website may have caused. All cartridge filters have a 40% micron rating and very few (total of 4) spin-on filter's have the 40% micron rating. This is where the "AS APPLICABLE" comes in. The product and packaging that you have (PL14610 spin-on) is indeed correct at 40 microns.

We here at Purolator sincerely appreciate your feedback as it is important to us, therefore to assure our on-going efforts to accommodate your concern's.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Katrina S. Hull
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Robert Bosch, LLC
Light Automotive Filtration Division
AA-FI/MKT1-NA "
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net


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... I got the same exact (canned) response back from Purolator.

Thank you for your interest in our Purolator filtration products. We have researched your concern promptly and apologize for any confusion the website may have caused. All cartridge filters have a 40% micron rating and very few (total of 4) spin-on filter's have the 40% micron rating. This is where the "AS APPLICABLE" comes in. The product and packaging that you have (PL14610 spin-on) is indeed correct at 40 microns.

We here at Purolator sincerely appreciate your feedback as it is important to us, therefore to assure our on-going efforts to accommodate your concern's.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Katrina S. Hull
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Robert Bosch, LLC
AA-FI/MKT1-NA
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net


I noticed she said "40% micron rating" in the response. Guess she means 40 micron rating.

I'll have to look at the box again. I think the "As Applicable" note on the box refers to the anti-drain back valve. The micron rating note has one asterisk (*) that ties it back to the "99.9& Efficient", and the "As Applicable" note had two asterisks (**) associated with it, which was tied to the info about the anti-drain back valve.
 
While trying to find info for another thread, I found that Purolater DOES recommend its PureONE oil filter for extended oil changes (15,000/year). Found it on their site under their regular (Classic) oil filter page in their comparison between the two. Didn't mean to get off subject - sorry.
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Originally Posted By: SHAMUS
While trying to find info for another thread, I found that Purolater DOES recommend its PureONE oil filter for extended oil changes (15,000/year).


Good info. Purolator does brag about how much debris their PureOne filter will hold, so it doesn't surprise me much that it would be OK for a longer OCI.
 
Sorry about the poor quality pic, I used my phone because my memory card for the DSLR is in use for another purpose, and the P&S was all the way across the room :p

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Wow, all of mine are perfect. If you call Purolator they can give you the build date, it could be possible they're an old run that got pushed to the back of the pile, poor stock rotation. If you have any reservations about using them they'll take them back and switch them.
 
Geez, that looks awful! Looks like some extremely severe overspray outside the gasket area. That could cause severe damage to your engine. Even if it doesn't touch the oil it's aesthetically displeasing.

You better send it to me. As a matter of fact, all those with complaints about the PL14610 or PL10241 Pure One should send them to me.
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Originally Posted By: sayjac
Geez, that looks awful! Looks like some extremely severe overspray outside the gasket area. That could cause severe damage to your engine. Even if it doesn't touch the oil it's aesthetically displeasing.

You better send it to me. As a matter of fact, all those with complaints about the PL14610 or PL10241 Pure One should send them to me.
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I agree
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and if you know, you get too many filters to handle, I can gladly take a few off your hands for uh... "disposal" purposes
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I've used nothing but PureOnes since they came out in my Hondas. Been doing 13K OCI with M EP for a long time now and everything has been perfect. I wouldn't sweat that overspray. Once you torque that filter down, the rubber gasket will seal it up. Use with confidence.
 
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
Sorry about the poor quality pic, I used my phone because my memory card for the DSLR is in use for another purpose, and the P&S was all the way across the room :p


Chevrofreak ... the filter you show has the gasket groove inboard much more than on the two PureOnes I have. The gasket groove on mine are right along the very outside circumference of the can ... so some of the over spray gets into the gasket groove. Maybe I can snap a couple of mine to show the difference.
 
Also, I'm going to email Purolator back and ask why some of their PureOne filters are 99.9% at 40u and the others at 20u. Are they using different media in some of the PureOnes? ... I can't think of why the efficiency would be rated differently if they all use the same filter media.
 
Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Geez, that looks awful! Looks like some extremely severe overspray outside the gasket area. That could cause severe damage to your engine. Even if it doesn't touch the oil it's aesthetically displeasing.

You better send it to me. As a matter of fact, all those with complaints about the PL14610 or PL10241 Pure One should send them to me.
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I agree
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and if you know, you get too many filters to handle, I can gladly take a few off your hands for uh... "disposal" purposes
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Yeah, "disposal puposes"! Yeahhh, now that's the ticket! There you have it, a standing offer to relieve the burdens of the, not quite or less than satisfied or even dissatisfied Pure One owners.

One condition, the Pure Ones must be in unused pristine form so they can recieve a thorough examination, prior to disposal. Yeahhh, now that's the ticket.
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Originally Posted By: SHAMUS
I would reinterate what Patfan quotes from Purolator; that the 40 micron rating is for CARTRIDGE filters, and (sadly) just 4 of their spin ons! For you Amsoil lovers, if I wanted to do long OCIs, I would also go with Amsoil, but for Purolators PureONE's better filtering effiencies and less than half the price, I have to stick with the ugly yellow can. For these two reasons, I'll put up with no plastic wrap.
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SuperBusa - You already have the answer; read earlier in this thread. Why this also exists in the four spin ons, however, I have no clue.
 
That gold flakey [censored] gets everywhere. Old revision or new revision, it doesn't matter...I wouldn't risk buying a filter with wear particles added to it.

I have personally opened boxes with gold flakes inside the center core. That may have been the early revisions of the design, but still...makes me nervous.
 
I just returned from the Fram website where they state that the Fram Tough Guard is 99% efficient at removing particles >20 microns - there Fram must be better than the Pure One cartridges and the 4 spin ons... hee heh heh

they also make reference to "the average economy filter" only being 80% efficient. what are these "economy" filters? I would normally consider the orange cans to be "economy"...
 
I was just downstairs looking at my filters, and I noticed that a new Purolator Classic that I bought for my sister's Escort ZX2 has overspray all over the baseplate as well. I can't get it off with my fingers though, so I don't think the oil will end up taking it off. Who knows though, if under heat, it will take it off and it will end up in the engine and back into the filter again..
 
Originally Posted By: SHAMUS
Originally Posted By: SHAMUS
I would reinterate what Patfan quotes from Purolator; that the 40 micron rating is for CARTRIDGE filters, and (sadly) just 4 of their spin ons! For you Amsoil lovers, if I wanted to do long OCIs, I would also go with Amsoil, but for Purolators PureONE's better filtering effiencies and less than half the price, I have to stick with the ugly yellow can. For these two reasons, I'll put up with no plastic wrap.
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SuperBusa - You already have the answer; read earlier in this thread. Why this also exists in the four spin ons, however, I have no clue.


Guess I don't quite follow you. I know it's the cartridge filters, and 4 spin-on filters from Purolator's response ... but I'm puzzled why 4 out of 100s of PureONE spin-on filters would have the 99.9% @ 40u instead of 20u.

I'm wondering if the cartridge filters are not using the "Micronic" filter media that is in the PureONEs. Maybe the 4 orphan spin-ons are using some other kind of filter media than the other PureONEs?

I emailed Purolator and asked them why only 4 out of 100s of the PurONEs would have a different efficiency. Will relay their response if they give me some info.
 
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