Oil related on an oil forum.I think you'll find they are more likely to delete anything oil related just due to how those threads tend to go. Other topics are more likely (but not guaranteed) to survive.
Oil related on an oil forum.I think you'll find they are more likely to delete anything oil related just due to how those threads tend to go. Other topics are more likely (but not guaranteed) to survive.
Yes, but if you read that one thread I linked, it's pretty easy to figure out why. If folks can't separate fact from fiction, the conversations tend to head south pretty fast.Oil related on an oil forum.
'From my observation,' that tends to be SOP with his oil comparison vids. Apparently, the other parts of the presentation outweigh any benefit of the Blackstone VOAs information.....but he did include a VOA on each of the tested oils and shared the results. We have a forum on those so I thought that information would be acceptable.
The issue with the wear testing is that it's not indicative of real engine wear.In his motor oil testing, the wear scar test is interesting to me. After all, wear protection is my #1 consideration when shopping for motor oil. The evaporation test has some limited value as well. With an understanding that both these tests are performed for a very short time and do not represent the oil's performance over its entire normal service period. I consider the rest entertainment, like the cold flow races. Zero relevance in Texas.
How is it "false" information? If he weighs oil samples before and after cooking them on a burner and shares his findings, how is that false? You may have decided to handle the test differently if you had been the one performing it, but that doesn't make the information of his findings to be false.Might be worthwhile for tree trimmers and chain saws, but when it comes to the comparison of motor oils the guy is far from technical relevance especially when it comes to any new and previously uncharacterized performance metric. He’s actually putting out false information.
Sponsors sponsor things to get return on investment and brand exposure. You're saying he has secret sponsors that pay him to not advertise them in his videos?He certainly withholds who his sponsors are and doesn't test them AFAIK. Has he tested Lucas Oil Stabilizer yet? One of the most acknowledged crappy "snake oils" here and he extolls its virtues and pretty sure he's getting paid not to test their goop....
Plus he's a "Tuber that makes a pretty good living and setting up a site mirror for his clicks here doesn't pay the bills for this website but certainly can provide a nice income hit for him...
That is the thing, while Project Farm is not completely scientific or perfect nobody else is stepping up to the plate. The cold flow doesn't lie, the bearing scar test doesn't lie, and while the evaporation test isn't perfect it doesn't lie either.Unlike some posters here, I never get the impression he cheats or misrepresents results. His testing is very limited and some tests are of questionable value but he seems to perform the tests with honesty and integrity. Usually I do find a thing or two in each PF video that has some relevance and information value. Hey, if you think you can do better, go for it!
In his motor oil testing, the wear scar test is interesting to me. After all, wear protection is my #1 consideration when shopping for motor oil. The evaporation test has some limited value as well. With an understanding that both these tests are performed for a very short time and do not represent the oil's performance over its entire normal service period. I consider the rest entertainment, like the cold flow races. Zero relevance in Texas.
When he draws conclusions about relative quality or gives distinctions based on worthless tests then the outcomes are deceptive. That wear scar test is useless yet he draws conclusions. Likewise with the silly cold flow tests.How is it "false" information? If he weighs oil samples before and after cooking them on a burner and shares his findings, how is that false? You may have decided to handle the test differently if you had been the one performing it, but that doesn't make the information of his findings to be false.
Yes, "cold flow" does lie. That test measures how the oil flows down little plastic tubes or whatever the "test" of the day may be. And the stupid evaporation test that takes the material to boiling is worthless. Neither one is representative of what actually characterizes the oil in an automobile engine. Read buster's comments above, he is right on the money.That is the thing, while Project Farm is not completely scientific or perfect nobody else is stepping up to the plate. The cold flow doesn't lie, the bearing scar test doesn't lie, and while the evaporation test isn't perfect it doesn't lie either.
While his tests do not show the full story it does give an idea of how oils perform against each other in the same tests of which you can judge for yourself, And I think he is pretty clear about that disclaimer in his videos.
It's a YouTube video. The conclusions aren't really for him to draw, they're for you to draw as you watch. He's just putting a test out there in the open. He isn't shoving anything down anybody's throat. The most he says at the end of the video is basically, "As a value conscious consumer, this one stuck out as the one I would choose for my own use". But he's just a dude. His endorsement isn't some scientific journal, nor has he ever acted like it is.When he draws conclusions about relative quality or gives distinctions based on worthless tests then the outcomes are deceptive. That wear scar test is useless yet he draws conclusions. Likewise with the silly cold flow tests.
And I wouldn't be performing those tests, neither did I when I was testing oil.
Well it is probably indicative of the worth of many things on YouTube. I’ll give you that.It's a YouTube video. The conclusions aren't really for him to draw, they're for you to draw as you watch. He's just putting a test out there in the open. He isn't shoving anything down anybody's throat. The most he says at the end of the video is basically, "As a value conscious consumer, this one stuck out as the one I would choose for my own use". But he's just a dude. His endorsement isn't some scientific journal, nor has he ever acted like it is.
I think people are looking way too into this and making a mountain out of a molehill.