I had Michelin energy saver tires on my Frontier before I replaced them with the P4 - got about 80,000 miles on them. I've had the P4 since July and noticed the ride is somewhat smoother. On the other hand with similar driving I figure I'm losing about 12-15 miles per tank. This is with trends I've noticed with driving long distance from full tank to the low fuel light coming on and also with mixed city/hiway driving. Tire pressure is also consistent with what I had on the Michelin.
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Prielli P5 or Michelin Destiny for my 97 Camry
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Michelin tires consistently produce rolling resistance that is either class-leading or close to it. Folks rarely take that into consideration when considering the total cost of ownership (TCO). Though 12-15 miles per tank isn't much of a difference, it may add up over time. Some folks report 1-2 MPG deficits, and that cost DOES add up over time.
The common initial response is, "they're too expensive, I'm not paying that for tires!" Well, even when buying cheaper tires, sometimes you ARE paying that for tires, when you consider that tread life and fuel economy are often hidden elements of TCO.
ediamiam, you may elect to increase the inflation pressure of the P4s some. You may get back some of the MPG you lost to the Michelins, and they'll probably handle more securely as well.
The common initial response is, "they're too expensive, I'm not paying that for tires!" Well, even when buying cheaper tires, sometimes you ARE paying that for tires, when you consider that tread life and fuel economy are often hidden elements of TCO.
ediamiam, you may elect to increase the inflation pressure of the P4s some. You may get back some of the MPG you lost to the Michelins, and they'll probably handle more securely as well.
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I have to say that the ride on the P4s is spectacular.
I take all that + the warranty into consideration. I don't mind paying more for a tire(however it's computed)that is quieter and has a more comfortable ride. You have wasted the entire purchase price with a tire you do not like to drive,every day. I'll never again consider Michelins for my,admittedly stiff and road noise prone, 02 V6 Accord. The Goodyear Comfort Treads are much more comfortable and quiet for my ride/drive. The Michelins are overrated in my experience.
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Michelin tires consistently produce rolling resistance that is either class-leading or close to it. Folks rarely take that into consideration when considering the total cost of ownership (TCO). Though 12-15 miles per tank isn't much of a difference, it may add up over time. Some folks report 1-2 MPG deficits, and that cost DOES add up over time.
The common initial response is, "they're too expensive, I'm not paying that for tires!" Well, even when buying cheaper tires, sometimes you ARE paying that for tires, when you consider that tread life and fuel economy are often hidden elements of TCO.
ediamiam, you may elect to increase the inflation pressure of the P4s some. You may get back some of the MPG you lost to the Michelins, and they'll probably handle more securely as well.
12-15 per tank is about 1 mpg decrease. assuming that is slightly over 1/2 gal of fuel, that could be $75 annualized assuming weekly fillups which is normal for me. i've also done the air pressure thing - it is higher than with the michelins.
Michelin tires consistently produce rolling resistance that is either class-leading or close to it. Folks rarely take that into consideration when considering the total cost of ownership (TCO). Though 12-15 miles per tank isn't much of a difference, it may add up over time. Some folks report 1-2 MPG deficits, and that cost DOES add up over time.
The common initial response is, "they're too expensive, I'm not paying that for tires!" Well, even when buying cheaper tires, sometimes you ARE paying that for tires, when you consider that tread life and fuel economy are often hidden elements of TCO.
ediamiam, you may elect to increase the inflation pressure of the P4s some. You may get back some of the MPG you lost to the Michelins, and they'll probably handle more securely as well.
12-15 per tank is about 1 mpg decrease. assuming that is slightly over 1/2 gal of fuel, that could be $75 annualized assuming weekly fillups which is normal for me. i've also done the air pressure thing - it is higher than with the michelins.
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Which kind of bike, bicycle or motorcycle?
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I am a bicycle rider (road). Michelin and Continental are two fo the top manufacturers in that market. Interestingly, most of their bicycle tire production occurs in France and Germany respectively rather than outsourcing.
Cool. I rode "The Hotter'N [censored] 100", 4 times in Wichita Falls,Texas. Don't ride a bike any more. Collapsed vertebra in my neck. I think staying out on the Aero Bar on rough roads may have contributed. Be careful. Check the pressure on your newly installed Tires. I discoved my pressures were slightly off. Don't know if it was DT or my car dealer as I first checked only afer the dealer oil change.
Update on the Comfort Tread Tourings on my boderline,harsh riding 02 V6 Accord. Less harsh than the Michelin Primacy and less whinny than the Destiny on my car.....But,at this point,I prefer the quieter,softer riding, garden variety Assurance Comfort Treads for about $20 a tire less money with the same 6/80k warranty. Hope these impressions help someone get an acceptable tire for their ride. I'll update periodically. Cheers to all.
I bought the Pirelli Cinturato at Discout and my mileage dropped 5mpg. When I went for my 1st few rotation and made a comment that the lost of mpg and that I had prefered the michelins. I paid the difference and now I'm happy with the michelins (and my mpg is back to normal).
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