Pretty pleased w/mpg in the CRV...24!

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I dunno if people remember my drama from earlier with OXY sensor issues and a whopping 14mpg. Now we're getting a solid 24mpg in the 1998 CRV auto 4wd w/120k. New OXY sensors, but still a CEL from something wrong after an intake cleaning. I don't think the oil has anything to do with it, (Mobil Clean 7500 5w30) but do you guys consider 24 real-world in a SUV good? I think so.
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Good for a V6, average for an I4.

I've been getting 23 MPG in my V6 Ford Escape lately, but I used to always get 21. Others have reported averaging 15-19 MPG.
 
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Good for a V6, average for an I4.

I've been getting 23 MPG in my V6 Ford Escape lately, but I used to always get 21. Others have reported averaging 15-19 MPG.




You must drive like a granny, and have synthetic for all liquids?
 
I have a 2000 CR-V. With my wife driving it gets about 21mpg around town. With me driving I get 22-23 mpg so I would say you are doing well. I would just disconnect the battery to try and clear the CEL. That would also give the computer a chance to re-learn with the new O2 sensor.
 
How much more space does the 98 CR-V have compared with a 30 MPG subaru AWD station wagon???

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It's got gobs of space. I recently sized-up the sleeping room for a trip to the State Capital where I had to testify early in the am and did not want to spend for a hotel. (another cheap BitOGer!) Other than that, it's much higher off the ground than the Sub, so the aerodynamics is not good. I dunno if the Sub will get the 30, real world. Frankly, I think 24 is nothing special for this vehicle, but I am happy compared to other vehicles. I am not a Sub fan, at all. Now, the new CRV, I really like and would buy one if we already did not have a CRV. Since we use it on dirt roads, in snow and w/dogs, a new vehicle for those activities would be a poor choice. Can you tell I really like it?
 
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You must drive like a granny, and have synthetic for all liquids?


Synthetic motor oil. It's a 4x2 so no PTO fluid. The only difference that might have led to the 2 MPG increase was switching to Dexron VI, but the mileage increase happened 4000 km after that. I'm still almost expecting my mileage to go back down, as I find it hard to believe the fluid could've played that big a role, and that it took that long to kick in. It's possible that any gains were previously masked by the cold winter weather, though.

As for driving like a granny, I usually drive the speed limit and use cruise control, but I'll chirp/spin the tires when I need or want to (about every other time I drive
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It's got gobs of space. I recently sized-up the sleeping room for a trip to the State Capital where I had to testify early in the am and did not want to spend for a hotel. (another cheap BitOGer!) Other than that, it's much higher off the ground than the Sub, so the aerodynamics is not good. I dunno if the Sub will get the 30, real world. Frankly, I think 24 is nothing special for this vehicle, but I am happy compared to other vehicles. I am not a Sub fan, at all. Now, the new CRV, I really like and would buy one if we already did not have a CRV. Since we use it on dirt roads, in snow and w/dogs, a new vehicle for those activities would be a poor choice. Can you tell I really like it?




Thanks... not trying to put you on the spot, but could you tell me more?

Why arent you a subaru fan? likes? dislikes?

The fiancee has her choices at:
#1 saab 9-3 wagon
#2 subaru leacy wagon
#3 Honda CR-V

She doesnt like the cheap materials that honda used in her acura, but she likes the looks of the CR-V. She also doesnt like that it is AT, but again, she likes the looks, the form factor, etc.

The saab will get 36-38 highway. I know others who get 28-32 regularly in their AT legacy wagons, and we would drive a MT version.

Just trying to gather useful info, so your insight is appreciated!

Thanks,

JMH
 
Well, for us, it actually came down to price. Look at the next obvious choice, the RAV4. In the Gen 1 version, it's very weak styling and space. To get the price down to what we wanted, we could not look at a newer model, just that G1 version of RAV4. Although the later ones are ok, we like Honda more than TOYOTA. Going back to where our budget allows, the G1 CRV...it's awesome. Going back to 1998, it's really nice vehicle. We laugh that the value is the same or better than my 1998 Audi wagon, at the same miles etc but the starting price was way lower. Paint is awesome, interior is still clean and intact. Mechanically, Honda is hard to beat. Everything works, the stereo is awesome. Trans is smooth and responsive. Engine is adequate. I do wish ours was a stick, but we went with the best condition example we cound find. It had 85k on it, and from those pics you can see, the owner was attentive. (a sprint car racer's wife mobile). I put on full oversize tires (not pictured) and it was transformed into a real SUV, the oems tires are SMALL-ish. I keep telling my woman, if she does not want it anymore, I'd take it. When I am done with the RSX in 2-3 years, it will be hers and the CRV will be a winterbeater. That's one thing I like about the CRV, it's the kind of vehicle you can really keep for 10 years. What I'm getting at it the value is still there. She owes $6k on it and we regularly see slightly newer same-model ones for $10-$12k. Ours has a sunroof and rack, both kind of rare. When I go to the city, I see a lot of beater ones, but generally, people take care of them, probally because they are happy with them. I do like other cars, and definately Saab has it's virtues, but the CRV as well as 9-3 are cars that have a good price/value when new. I think Subs are tinny and just don't fit my personality. Old grandma cars. If your wife needs to drive in deep snow and/or does not do a lot of high-speed highway, get the CRV. If she drives fast and far on good roads, get the Saab. PS, the ride in the CRV on rough/off road is really good and we have bad roads w/RR tracks. I hope my input helps.
 
I finally did the service that I give as advice, to get underneeth and spraypaint any corroded area. It took 10 minutes to clean it up and that is a great thing to do when you want to keep a vehicle a long time.
 
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It's got gobs of space. I recently sized-up the sleeping room for a trip to the State Capital where I had to testify early in the am and did not want to spend for a hotel. (another cheap BitOGer!) Other than that, it's much higher off the ground than the Sub, so the aerodynamics is not good. I dunno if the Sub will get the 30, real world. Frankly, I think 24 is nothing special for this vehicle, but I am happy compared to other vehicles. I am not a Sub fan, at all. Now, the new CRV, I really like and would buy one if we already did not have a CRV. Since we use it on dirt roads, in snow and w/dogs, a new vehicle for those activities would be a poor choice. Can you tell I really like it?




As the former owner of 4 Saabs, one CR-V, and Three Subarus, I'll have to disagree. The Saabs weren't reliable enough...but, they were fun. The CR-V was underpowered, although it would get the low-20's city to upper 20's on the Highway. Subaru's all get at least 30 mpg on highway. The straight drive one could eclipse 37 mpg if on secondary highways cruising at 61-65 mph with the inevitable drops to 35-45 mph through small towns. Also, the Subarus...all three of them, were much more Solid feeling, and free of squeaks and rattles, than any of the Saabs or the CR-V. Oh, one of the Saabs was a 9-5 Aero...top of the line. My current Legacy with Leather is MUCH better (just got 31.5 mpg on consecutive tanks cruising at 78-81 mph going from Kentucky to Orlando...best I've ever gotten was 33.4, but, I wasn't going that fast). The opinion of someone that has owned all three.
 
JHZR2, I can't speak to the Saab or the Subaru, but as for the Honda, it is a great vehicle. If she gets a pre-2007 or pre-2006 model, a manual transmission is available on the 4WD version. (I'm not sure which year they eliminated that option.) We have a 2003 model which consistently gets in the mid-20s mpg around town and usually over 30 on the freeway, unless I decide to go over 70 for long stretches, and even then the mpg is high.
 
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