Premium Guard TSB on website for Hyundai / Kia for PG4459

[Sequoiasoon]

This was on the PG website when just looking for something else. Many aftermarket filters had the same problem?

There is no date that I see for the TSB and Hyundai-Forums had old link from 4 years ago referencing the same issue. Do you think that this still applies? Hyundai / Kia are now up to a new OEM number filter also 26300-35505. For me, old or not, fear mongering, I'm going to stick with OEM filters on daughter in laws '21 Tucson and probably son's '10 Forte because buying a 6 pack is easy to have on hand.

 

[Rand]

Whats the date on that paper?
there was some noise about that around 2020~~



Very strange...

Good thing I still have 18 oem filters for the elantra... which also work on the deere 850 from 1983.

 

[benjamming]

280 psig?!

 

[Drifter]

I always used Hyundai filters to be one the safe side for warranty. Ran 35504-35505s for a decade or more. 280psi spike sounds like alot and scary. First Ive heard of this

 

[DannyM]

Whats the date on that paper?

March of 23' ... or at least that is what it shows in the URL when you click it to open in another tab : https://www.pgfilters.com/wp-conten...3/PG_26300-35503_Hyundai_Product_Bulletin.pdf

 

[Chris142]

At one time I had a Mitsubishi pickup. It had a warning in the owners manual about excessive oil pressure and to use the OE oil filter etc.

I wonder if they ( Mitsubishi, Hyundai ,Kia)do not have a pressure relief valve after the pump?

 

[Rand]

March of 23' ... or at least that is what it shows in the URL when you click it to open in another tab : https://www.pgfilters.com/wp-conten...3/PG_26300-35503_Hyundai_Product_Bulletin.pdf

odd when I do that I get 2018

 

[DannyM]

odd when I do that I get 2018
View attachment 265002

Like I mentioned above.. at least when you click the link to another tab.

 

[Rand]

Like I mentioned above.. at least when you click the link to another tab.

In the document properties it says 2018 which is likely more reliable than a url for a date.
had to open it in a different viewer to bring up the document properties than the first one I opened it with.

 

[DannyM]

In the document properties it says 2018 which is likely more reliable than a url for a date.
had to open it in a different viewer to bring up the document properties than the first one I opened it with.

yes I agree.. I was just posting that because I noticed the date in the url.

 

[Rand]

I didnt org. see a date because of my quick viewer for the pdf.

2018 also lines up with this fram documentation from 2016

https://files.ctctcdn.com/972f0dbb001/85e5bccc-f2e5-4421-a0d3-5fd867e3cad1.pdf?ver=1457481676000

 

[Zee09]

At one time I had a Mitsubishi pickup. It had a warning in the owners manual about excessive oil pressure and to use the OE oil filter etc.

I wonder if they ( Mitsubishi, Hyundai ,Kia)do not have a pressure relief valve after the pump?

They still spec 256 psi or higher but Fram and Wix both surpass that by 40 to 70 psi. This is on the current 2L and 7317 size filters

 

[ZeeOSix]

From the other thread mentioning this TSB.

That's sounds like a vehicle issue with the oil pump max pressure control, where any filter mounted to the engine could experience over pressure ... obviously not much "pump slip" going on there.

PG said: "... there are indications that the filters in question were subjected to internal pressure exceeding 280 PSI. There were clear indication so over-pressurization on filters used on these applications."

 

[ZeeOSix]

At one time I had a Mitsubishi pickup. It had a warning in the owners manual about excessive oil pressure and to use the OE oil filter etc.

I wonder if they ( Mitsubishi, Hyundai ,Kia)do not have a pressure relief valve after the pump?

There needs to be a pump pressure relief valve somewhere to control the output pressure of the PD pump. Without one, the pump would literally destroy the weak link in the oiling system. Sounds like an ineffective pressure control system.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

FWIW, the OE Hyundai/Kia filter is the Mann W811/80

 

[Mainia]

Old news, 2016 ish as the Fram warning post shows. I talked to the Fram rep when he was on here back in the day. Fram did a full design to beef up the Hyundai/Kia filter # up to handle the pressure at that time, mainly an increase in metal can thickness.

I personalty don't touch OEM Hyundai filters, as their filtering abilities are horrid. Add Hyundai/Kia's GDI legionary soot making abilities, they are a mismatch to an already problematic flaw " Hyundai/Kia are very hard on engine oils".

 

[Sayjac]

This is "just my take' on the 'long time' aftermarket Hyun/Kia oil filter "tsbs", it's "cya" by some of the aftermarket makers. It's much easier to just not play in Hyun/Kia aftermarket oil filter arena, then be involved with and/or potentially blamed for any engine oiling system issues or failures. In my observation, aftermarket oil filters are an easy target anyway should there be any engine issue(s). By their own counsel, Hyun/Kia, seems to have more than their share of those. Again, JMO.

 

[kschachn]

This is "just my take' on the 'long time' aftermarket Hyun/Kia oil filter "tsbs", it's "cya" by some of the aftermarket makers. It's much easier to just not play in Hyun/Kia aftermarket oil filter arena, then be involved with and/or potentially blamed for any engine oiling system issues or failures. In my observation, aftermarket oil filters are an easy target should there be any engine issue(s). By their own counsel, Hyun/Kia, seems to have more than their share of those. Again, JMO.

This is my take as well. It’s not a problem with the particular aftermarket filter brand as much as it is a problem with the engine. The aftermarket filter companies don’t want to be on the hook for something that isn’t their fault.

 

[Urshurak776]

I posted this a year ago. In the Deals thread about PG filters.

 

[Fair enough]

Maybe this whole thing was about the base gasket leaking and it would also cause engine failure. Who was there measuring the pressure at 280 before the incident? So they looked and saw a burst can? Maybe this was already covered.