Premium Guard PG4612EX used oil filter cut open

[Nuclear_42]

Here’s a flawless PGI filter as usual. 6 months/ 3500 miles on my 2021 Subaru Outback 2.5L 48.3k Miles using Amsoil Extended Life 5w30. I’ll swap to proper PG4615EX when a handful of the smaller 4612’s run out. Hopefully the 4615 is more readily available by then.

(2023 MFG Date code)

 

[TheOilWizard]

"Nothing to see here, folks" which is exactly how it should be for an oil filter.

Thank you for the cut and post.

 

[GW.]

Looks great!

 

[WarEagle]

Thanks for c&p, filter looks great. Why such a short OCI?

 

[Nuclear_42]

Thanks for c&p, filter looks great. Why such a short OCI?

These 2020+ Subaru engines are fuel diluting monsters. Although the oil is more than capable of running 5k I prefer not to linger into a sheared down 20 weight viscosity. This was a winter run and wreaked fuel.

 

[grasscutter]

Wow! Look at those voluptuous, laser straight, perfectly spaced pleats!

 

[Snagglefoot]

Hooge flow area in the inside tube. Red colored ADBV and gasket which seems to a feature of PG.

 

[Deplorable]

These filters click all of the buttons for me. Will be using these in the foreseeable future.

 

[DannyM]

These filters click all of the buttons for me. Will be using these in the foreseeable future.

Remember they are easy to get usually in your vicinity at Oreilly, Autozone or Advance Auto in the taller version of this 4612 or other model #'s for your vehicles.

 

[Snagglefoot]

The red gasket and ADBV seem to be a commonality with PG made filters. Is anyone still seeing black colored gaskets with PG made filters?

 

[DannyM]

The red gasket and ADBV seem to be a commonality with PG made filters. Is anyone still seeing black colored gaskets with PG made filters?

All their lower level filters have the nitrile but on the extended mileage versions I think it might just depend on the factory it is coming from because some of the Carquest Premium and Ecogard still have them and I am sure there are a few others but they are mostly Chinese.

 

[vwalburn]

Does Premium Guard make all the Carquest and NAPA filters now?

 

[ZeeOSix]

Does Premium Guard make all the Carquest and NAPA filters now?

Don't think "all". Some of the lower tier filters may still be made by others, like Wix/Mann+Hummel. It's typically the extended use (10K+ mile) filters that are under PGI.

 

[rstsco]

The red gasket and ADBV seem to be a commonality with PG made filters. Is anyone still seeing black colored gaskets with PG made filters?

When I bought my Carquest Premium 84356s for the Pilot a month or so ago, some were made in Vietnam while others were made in China. The Vietnam COO were P-style silicone (red), while those with China COO had a black, square/rectangular gasket. I'm assuming nitrile, but did not try to burn one in the store. Same part number on box with instructions to see product inside for COO. Both had silicone ADBV. I bought a dozen made in Vietnam.

 

[ZeeOSix]

The Vietnam COO were P-style silicone (red), while those with China COO had a black, square/rectangular gasket. I'm assuming nitrile, but did not try to burn one in the store.

I could visualize that ... store employees going what the ****.

 

[rstsco]

I could visualize that ... store employees going what the ****.

Actually, they only had a handful on the shelf, so I asked the manager if they had more in back and she let me open all they had so I could pick out those made in Vietnam. She even gave me a discount (after I asked) because I bought a dozen. That left them with ~six made in China, which she couldn't have cared less.

 

[Snagglefoot]

When I bought my Carquest Premium 84356s for the Pilot a month or so ago, some were made in Vietnam while others were made in China. The Vietnam COO were P-style silicone (red), while those with China COO had a black, square/rectangular gasket. I'm assuming nitrile, but did not try to burn one in the store. Same part number on box with instructions to see product inside for COO. Both had silicone ADBV. I bought a dozen made in Vietnam.

Could you show a pic of the profile of the P type gasket? Thanks.

 

[rstsco]

This document was linked previously showing NAPA's difference between molded (P-style) and lathe-cut gaskets.

I took pictures of the Carquest Premium 84356 and Pentius PLXL7317 gaskets. Both have protective covers which I didn't want to remove just for the pictures.

Carquest Premium:

Pentius:

 

[QwikKota]

That is a hefty spring for an oil filter. For the bypass valve I assume.

 

[Snagglefoot]

Intuitively, it looks like the P type gasket would create a good seal but I don’t want to start an internet Bittog rumour causing a run on them!